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You got a way to fucking say that. But I get it. It's better in theory because it like there's more character development. You'll learn more about the world and you'll learn more about the war. But it's like, oh, Starfleet is kind of boring, kind of real shitty and boring.

0:22 But it's fine I guess, because I know it gets good. Like, I know there's some seasons that I'm really excited about. Like I want to watch Star Trek Strange New Worlds, which is the prequel series set just before the original 60s Show, which is about Captain Pike. 0:41 Like, oh, I just want to watch that, but I feel like I've got to watch everything to get to that, even though it's set beforehand. How much ish do you have to watch before you've finally got the chance to watch something that you actually want to watch? 0:58 I need to watch seven seasons of The Next Generation 7, the remaining Next Generation films about I need to watch all of Star Trek Deep Space 9, all of Star Trek Voyager. 1:15 And I don't know how many seasons they are they I don't think they're seven. I think they might be 4 or 6. You know, I think The Next Generation is the one with the longest season. Then there's three seasons of Picard, which I don't think I'd mind because I think at this point we're into the the era where TV shows only have 8 or 10 episodes of season. 1:40 You know, probably same, yeah, probably. Same with Discovery and Brave New Worlds and Australian New Worlds. They're probably only 8 or so episodes of season rather than 20. That's not bad, is it? Yeah, it's not bad. So I have to, but I do. 1:56 I probably do have to watch like a good 800 episodes before I get to something I think looks interesting. And then there's the cartoon shows, as well as Star Trek Prodigy, which apparently is really good, and Lower Decks, which has thingy in it from the boys. 2:15 Jack Quaid. Oh yeah, yeah. And he turns up in one of the live action shows as his character. So I feel like they are all connected at this point and I just, I just need to just watch them. I just have to consume 1600 hours worth Star Trek before I'm alone. 2:33 Before I'm alone myself even. Because I won't understand the references. No rules. I won't understand the references and I won't know the law. You can't just start at the end. You can't start at the end. And then I find out from actual Star Trek fans that love Star Trek. 2:49 Am I like talking to people and shit? Like, Oh yeah, I just, I just never really watched the original series. Why? But you can't call yourself a fan. I'm less of a fan than you and I've seen more. I've just not seen it all. 3:06 Did you watch the animated show from the 60s? No, why not? It's good. Why not it's? Good. It's just as good as the actual show. The animated Star Trek with all the original cast is good. It's more adventures with Kirk, Bones and Spark and they are the best. 3:25 I would I would give anything just to see more adventures with them. Kirk didn't. Give anything. Give anything? Kirk is so much better than Picard 1. He folks Picard not fork Riker does. But Riker is like, I feel like this problem is we Riker from Next Generation, they clearly have a lot of interest with him. 3:47 And Troy, the psychic woman who does nothing, They're like, basically she's there as a counsellor and she's psychic and she's this race that can sense feelings and emotions. So like, people will be in distress or they'll be alarmed just like, and then she'll she'll lean over to Captain, Captain Cook, she'll lean over to Picard and she'll be all like, this man's in pain like. 4:13 This what a shite fucking thing, Sir. I think that guy's happy. Yeah, I can. He's he's smiling. I can see. I can see. That see that? Sir, that man must be sad. I can feel that he's sad. He's crying. I can see his wife's just guiding. 4:29 It's not really established how much of powers like Stretch, because it's like, yeah, like some guys in A room talking to Picard. And then she'll lean over and go, he's concealing something, He's not letting on this full thing. I can tell it was fucking body language anyway. 4:44 Stop being useless. But they'll have the Enterprise above a planet. It's just like I can, I can sense the feelings of all the people down there on that planet. How how powerful do you want your character to be Ridiculous, like have limits, You know what I mean? 4:59 Like which will be flying over planets just like there's something going on down there and I don't like it. I'm like, you're like a good 900,000 miles away. I don't know how distances from the Earth to space, but it's a lot. It's probably like fucking 40 miles or something in it. 5:18 But. Yeah, I think. What to the stratosphere? Yeah. How long would it take to drive into space if there was a straight Rd. I don't know, depends how fast the cars going. Anyway, here's another episode of Trapped in the Cube. 5:35 This is part for the Spooktacular. Spooky special. The final part. The longest part is what you've set us up for, yeah. Final deal I want to do, we're doing. A. 6:02 Anyway, I wanted to ask you a question to do with Spooks. Good, because that's not what this podcast is about. Not necessarily, but you know, the specials are. But we get sidetracked. They call me the derailer in some circles. 6:20 I don't think anyone's ever called you that. My mother called me stop derailing this person and. She's going. I could have been a doctor. Dennis I had, I had great process and then I got fucking pregnant and he derailed my entire career. 6:41 The fucking derail. I don't know if that's a cool nickname or a good nickname. If you ruin someone's life by derailing it. The derailer. I think I think it sounds cool. I think it allows people to not associate with you anymore. 6:57 Perfect. That's the dream. That's the dream. Don't talk or look at me but but give me attention. That's that's, that's the, that's the goal. So you wanted to tell me about something? Yeah, no, I want to like ask you a question. 7:14 So do you know Back to the Future, the first film? Oh, Mike McFly goes back to the 50s, meets his parents, whatever. And that film was set in like the 80s or something 50s, like what, 30 years difference. Yeah. And they always say, and it's like a thing for like people outrage, like going, if you set Back to the Future now, he'd be going back to the 90s. 7:38 You know, I'm like, oh God, that's time's escaping us all. It's thingy and whatnot. But try and envision that film. Like the Enchantment under the sea dance scene wouldn't be the enchantment under the sea dance. So it'd be like in my mind, it'd be like early 90s ninety, 293 or something. 7:57 And it'd be like a high school grunge ball, something. Everyone will be wearing final shirts. They'll all be like tied around the waist and all our blue jeans, whatever. And it'll be called like, Scum Under the Sea dance or something. There'll be some Nirvana or Cree tribute band on the stage. 8:14 Anyway, Matt McFly gets up on the stage and he plays a song from this generation, this era. What's he playing that the kids aren't ready for? Oh. Fucking hell. And it's got to be something like that. 90s kids wouldn't have heard, but yeah, because not obviously, But yeah, like I was thinking about this the other day. 8:37 I was thinking maybe it's the system of a down or something like that, because it's like, but system of a down started in the 90s anyway. But then again, they only really got big in the 2000s. It would like. The thing is, is that it would have to be something more written and learned now wouldn't it? 8:52 Do you know what I mean? I I was thinking there's something more like maybe mid 2000s or something because like it's still something like, so say you're say you're an 18 teen, 18 year old in the 90s, which let's just say for all intents and purposes they were like 1718 his parents when he met them. 9:13 So if they were 1718 in 92, by the time their kids are going to love the music, it'll be like the early 2000s. Oh yeah, yeah. So like you could have, you could have like wait and bleed, you can have Mike McFly singing Wait and Bleed up there because I feel like they wouldn't have heard that sort of shit. 9:31 Oh my God, yeah. I'm trying to think when what? When that even came out. I couldn't tell you off top of my. Head, I couldn't either. But I was just thinking of something that like, because if you'd like, they're listening to like, so the slow song comes on or the Enchanter and the sea dance or whatever it's called with arms wider or prone, you know, because that's going to be a slow romantic song, I guess. 10:00 That has reminded me, actually, you didn't sing. I didn't sing in the. Last party. I didn't do anything. I didn't. Mean to not sing. It's just, I don't mean to ever sing. But yeah, I imagine that's the source because it reminds me of the Brady Bunch movies, which was set in the 90s, but they came out and came in 2007, nineties. 10:18 But then they captured that 90s aesthetic really well. It's like that Wayne's World sort of grunge for me, that's 90s. I feel like if they tried to capture the 90s, no, they'd 8 to 5, the 90s as in they'd make it colourful, bright kitchen and they'd make it all about cheesy pop music and stuff. 10:37 For me, when I went back in the 90s, I do remember like it's all about that 90s grunge. I said run and roll back in the 90s. I was like 10. The oldest I was in the 90s was 10. I don't even remember what I did then. So, so yeah, my question is not what what would it be like? 10:54 What would be like? See if it was like System Song with the terracotta pie. Vicinity of obscenity. Vicenity of obscenity, say if Mike McFly got on stage and swing vicinity vicinity, I feel that would be the sort of song. Lion. 11:12 I feel that would create this show. What the fuck? That's like a straight off the bat thing. Where was when he was doing a Johnny be good when he was doing Johnny Be good, it it started off swing, didn't it? And everyone was into it and then it went into his solo and because he was solo too hard that that's what freaked everyone out. 11:33 So it would stand to reason. Then the the song would have to start agreeable. I think it could even. I think it could start off extreme, like, yeah, go straight into it. Everyone will be dumbfounded throughout the entire song because I feel like if you're listening to like your Creed and your Nirvana and your fucking Eddie Vader, you know that's going to blow your fucking minds and you're just going to go, fuck, is that guy singing about? 12:01 And then that's the reason for Matt McFly going, I guess you guys aren't ready for that, but your kids are going to love it. And then meanwhile, some, some guy runs over to the phone and it's like, hey, search. No, it's your. 12:17 It's your. It's your cousin John Tankian. Do you want to know that new sound you're looking for? Well, listen to this Terracotta pie. Hey. Terracotta pie. Hey. Oh my Lord. 12:37 But I'm sure there's a much better era appropriate song where that scene could be recreated for the 90s Back to the Future film. But. Yeah, it's difficult. I mean, it's difficult to place a song for it because even in the 90s they were still doing like grand solos and they were still, Oh yeah, Do you know what I mean? 12:55 So I don't know like if. I think you have to keep something if. You're going to ramp it up, then it maybe it would have to be someone like Buckethead. Yeah, I guess. I don't think it's popular enough though. Like mainstream popular. Yeah, it's popular. It's not mainstream popular, but like, not popular enough to go. 13:13 Your kids are going to love it. I definitely think you have to keep it rock coded because like swing rock, rock'n'roll, you know, JB, I think it's like, I think the 90s would still be grungy anyway, and I think you still have to keep it. You can't just play like some R&B or some. 13:31 Yeah. Hardcore trap music, you know, I don't, I don't think it'd work. And also that's the thing as well with those sorts of like songs and stuff, like if it was a slim night, if it was a system, you can't have Mama Fly, go into the band, keep up with the beat, watch for the kicks. 13:52 It's in the key of C Do this. Like, there's no fucking way. I know, but absolutely no chance. I was thinking it would be. Obviously it can't be anything Metallica because it was like 80s. It can't be anything heavy from the 80s, so it's got to be something extreme from the 2000s. 14:10 What if it was just? Fucking. What if it was just fucking? It wouldn't blow the minds as much. But what if it was like an offspring? What if it was Liam Biscuit's rolling? Hey, it's your cousin Liam Durst. Listen to this. 14:27 Liam Durst. Fred. Oh my God, I don't know. I just thought that was my little thought thing. Manically dialling. Hey, Jonathan, it's me, Carl. 14:45 Carl Davis said You're looking for. Well, listen to this. Yeah, You know what? 15:02 Yeah. I'm gonna stand by that. It's it's, it's gonna be a con. So it's. Gonna be a con. Freaking elite should be good. Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah. That'd be something that I think could just slow bits to that, yeah. And then when he starts doing the whole scat section, I guess if you wanna call it that, that'd be where they go, yeah. 15:23 Yeah, perfect con. The answer is con. All right, we figured it out. You know what? And you know, the more I think about it, I'm like, yeah, I'd hate a reboot Back to the future, especially if they went back to the 90s. But now I'm thinking about that. I'm like. Thought this fits fucking great. 15:40 Let's. Make it. Let's make. I know, Forget the podcast, forget the cube. You can go back in time, kiss your mum, fulfil that fantasy and that's a call back to the last episode. Oh my fucking Lord. 15:58 That's insane. I remembered what happened last episode. Over there it was exactly 7 days ago recording of Part 3. We are pretty consistent on these Saturdays though. Very. Consistent on The Saturdays, we're doing OK, We're doing a lot for it. It's a bit of. Law making a bit of time. It's a little bit of law for the listeners that are shotgun. 16:15 Do you think this guy on the Madrid can looks like our old dance teacher? I don't think he looks like him do. You know what I do? I do, actually. Yeah. You really just. Like our old dance teacher, no listeners are thinking Oh my God, we dance. Only in the cube. Only in the cube only. 16:31 In the cube. Yeah, we might have had dance lessons. We might not be good. Or. We could be exceptional. Leave it to the imagination of the listener. Exactly, Imagination will always be better. With we are whatever you want us to be realistically. 16:49 That that gives them too much freedom. Oh, I don't feel comfortable. What if they meet? What if they? What if they come to the cube? They can't get it either. They will be stuck with them as well. Yes. And then they can do whatever they want because you've given that permission. I didn't say they could do whatever they want to us, I said the. 17:11 I believe in the cube anything we manifest becomes real also. I think that's true. Yeah, I think that's also true. Lock a phone. God. Oh my God, an elephant. They there's no camera, they don't know. 17:30 Although there is a panda somewhere there. Is it's. There it is. There you go. We can manifest whatever we want. We're all powerful in the cube. We can dance. If we want to. We can we we could leave our friends behind. If they don't dance. 17:46 Well, if they don't dance. They're all friends of mine. Fucking losers safe It's. Safe. It's a safe. It's a safety dance, my Lord. Look at Jesus. 18:03 You've got another spooky film that you want to discuss. Wreck. Again, you're picking films I don't know a lot about Spaniard film right it? Is Spanish. You discovered America. That's what it's about. Yeah, the film is called the film's called Wreck, but it's it's famously about Christopher Columbus. 18:24 Recorded his journey discovering America. You can record a journey in a logbook or a recording's, not a a new camera thing. This is so very scary as well. I'm getting that though. Discovering America is not scary. Scary for the natives? 18:41 Oh, absolutely. I would, I would bet. I'm not right over the land anymore. Stole all the land. Yeah. Hey, Christopher Columbus. Did you record that down? Yeah, in my diary. Yeah. Cameras haven't been invented. Yet yet. What else would record mean? 18:57 Hang on, let me just, let me just film these natives with my pen. I would never work. Hang on, let me just return your diary. I'll just pop it in the VHS, which is what they called a Ledger. Fast. 19:14 My God, don't tell me about Rack. Rack is * Dexter Sister in the American the American remake. Quarantine it's a it's a shot for shot but somehow doesn't have any of the charm. Why is it called a different name? Because America likes to change the names of things for whatever fucking reason it is. 19:32 They didn't change the name. They didn't change the name of the office. You kept that I. Know, but that's more a contractual agreement that Vicky and Steven have made. That's true. You know what I mean? That's true. Whereas Hollywood, if they're going to essentially try and make money off someone else's idea, yeah, then they change the name of it. 19:52 Statford and Son, Stanford and stuff. Yeah. Why change the name? But yeah, Wreck is one of those phoned footage movies. We. Found it. I did in HMV like 10 years ago or whenever it was that fucking. 20:10 You're right. You know that trend of phone footage films? Yeah, right. You don't really pissed me off. For one fucking time. The fucking Blue Witch Project. And there was another one about an alien abduction. It was a fine footage film. And all the way up until high school, College, whatever people believe them verbatim, it's true. 20:33 This was the real footage. There was a girl we went to high school with. Yeah, No, you didn't go to my high school. College. There's a girl we went to college with. We both showed across. I don't know if you had this argument with her while I was there, but I definitely had this argument with her. 20:51 But I can't remember. It's like the first kind or something or whatever. It's an alien abduction film that is real. That footage there is real, but I might know it's not what you think. So this film, you can look up the credits at the end of the film. It's directed by this person. 21:06 You think he has got footage of real alien abduction footage and released it to to a film company and it's not been put on the news and it's not like a known thing and they just decided to sell it in the theatres. You think that's how they'd go about showing this to the world? 21:23 No, you don't. You're hot, but you don't. And she said that's capitalism, baby. I don't think she was that smart. I can't remember, was he was it? You gonna bleak it out here? Am I your best? Yeah, was it? 21:41 Yeah, I don't, I don't remember the conversation, but I have, I have a feeling of. Me always being angry that she thought it was real. Yeah, I don't know. It's it's like some resonant memory in my molecules almost. 21:57 Yeah, how can you possibly believe it? And there's a phase like anything phone footage people believed was real. And he started with Blair Witch. It's real for it. They phoned it a direct, a director phoned it or paid for it. And then he's put it on the screen and it's real. 22:14 This is this is this is fat. That person that we're watching died, died. I think people, people believe even up until 2 those is paranormal activity. People believe that this this is real because it's real because it's on a camcorder. And all it's. 22:30 That makes no fucking sense. It's real because it's on a camcorder. My God. But The thing is, is that it it confuses people because there's no grand special effects. Yeah. And it's all. Yeah, it is. It is. Awful. It's filmed on a shitty camcorder. 22:46 Shy camera, yeah. Oh, it must be real. This must. They can't think you can achieve that with. You can make good things look shit to make it look good. Yeah, you know. Yeah. And you can make special effects look better because you can hide a lot of it by putting grain or filters or static over it. 23:02 Or 1080P camera, 420P camera, fine. But the people are like, Oh my God, these are there's a sequel coming out. You mean they found more footage? You, they found the film did so well, they found more footage and you still believe it's real. 23:21 Oh, they don't. They don't know. They don't know. Oh my God, they keep finding forages. Oh no, they went back to the house. They went back to that forest clearing with the first videotape. They really tried to set up The Witch is Real as well. They didn't want any of the actors to like have the names and the credits or something that they tried to make them out. 23:39 With the Blow Witch project, Yeah, yeah. What's it was I feel. So sorry for those guys 'cause they had to keep up a lot the the the actors tried to pretend it was real after the fact as well. Oh. No, Yeah, yeah, yeah. They weren't getting paid to pretend after the film, they got paid to act for the duration of the film, but they were still acting afterwards for free. 24:01 I would not have done it. I'd be like, no, we filmed it, you daft? Are you stupid? Are you a fucking? Are you a silly use? The the way that they filmed that though. Are you what rhymes with guitar? Did God didn't say it? 24:17 It's fine, can't cancel me. A guitar's a thing. Do you know who I am? You can't. Cancel. You can't cancel me. I'm in the fucking queue. I'm. Safe in here. Traps you can't cancel. 24:32 What's traps? Once a week, my voice goes out to the people. Stop it. Can't cancel What's traps. No, that that'd be a good tag line for a show. If we're that unhinged. I don't think we're that unhinged that leads that we, that makes us out that we would be a very far right podcast. 24:54 You can't cancel what's trapped. And it sounds like we all love like transsexual fetishes things. Yeah, yeah. Can't cancel what's trapped, but yeah. My fucking Lord, oh God from. 25:11 What are you saying about the Paranormal Activity cast? Oh, not paranormal activity, so which which? Yeah, there's it was a cast of three people in it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's only a small. Creative film and I. Did it? Part of the reason why they fucking hate it is because they weren't being told what's what's actually coming. 25:29 They weren't giving us scripts. Yeah, I know they weren't. Do you know what I mean? It was all just like, like, you have to be here by this day. Also talk about no one has to the map anymore, just just pretend you've lost it. No, they got. Of them, we're told like, like drop them up and carry on going. 25:45 Don't let the other ones know that you've dropped them. Up That's an interesting way of making it, is it's trying to make it real, but raw, yes. And it's like there's certain directors who do that. I can't think of one on the spot, but he'll do a scene where there'll be no script. 26:02 I can't remember what film it was or our director does it, but he's known for it. He doesn't like working with scripts. He'll just give a premise to the actors. You're the dad, you're the wife, you're the children. This is your back story. It's your back story coming from work. You're the dad, you're the wife, This is the church and this is the steeple. 26:24 And open the doors and here's all the people. Yeah, and it. Would just and. It would just go do the scene, do the scene and have something dramatic happen in the scene. And then that's how he will create his films. It's a very, it's a very auto filmmaker. I have seen a few or maybe one of them. 26:40 I know one of the films Adam Drive was in and that's the one that I have seen. And it's like, yeah, everything was pretty much made-up on the spot. It's just what we thought to do. And apparently a lot of people want to work with him, but he is hard to work with, which makes sense. Yeah, because it doesn't sound like he's directing anyone. It seems like the director isn't giving he's. 26:56 Giving you a scenario and he wants you to act out. Yeah, well, how how? All right, let's. Go more let. Me just put myself in that sort of situation, right? If he says to me you. Go make a podcast with your mate. No, you're doing a well, good job. 27:15 I stand collecting. He's absolutely a good director. But like, say, if you've just pointed at me and said, right, you are a star clerk and someone's going to come in. So this guy comes in who's also acting, and he comes also to me. It's an improv. One session. Yeah, it's an improv. 27:31 Session, which isn't, which isn't direction that that's not directing he. Told he told you. He directed you to. Being a store clerk. If I don't like if this, if this other actor comes in and he just starts staring at me and I go, well, do you want to pack his cigarettes? 27:48 Is that what it is? More often than not, he he will then tell the other actor like your intention is to rob this store and he'll say, but you pull a gun on that guy. Also, it's really loaded. Make sure he knows it's really loaded make. Sure, he knows. 28:05 Shoot shoot him in the wagon and then 30 years later when somebody watches this absolutely our tall bullshit film the it'll be do you know that guy really got shot in the leg and. Then we'll go. Yeah, we fucking know. 28:22 Everybody knows. Everybody knows. Jack got shot in the leg for real in that scene. You know, he wasn't hurting. That's real pain. Yeah, because he got shot in the fucking leg. Filming stopped for three weeks. Yeah, we all know it's one of the known facts. Stop it. 28:38 Oh my God. Yeah, we could create a new arrogance for this is what we You know what I think? Usually called the podcast that. Arrogance. For yeah, yeah, this is part 4 of Other God's fault. 28:55 Everyone will know. Us, we have a known fact, yeah. Fucking God. Aragon's broken toe. All good names, but I don't want to sound like a lot of the Rings podcast. Yeah, I know, because to be fair, if you are an exclusive lot of the Rings podcast, it's a good name. 29:11 It is. I don't really vibe with lot of the rings that well though. Which is always, it's fine. It's always struck me as strange because it's always struck me as strange because you absolutely love law. I do love. You know what I mean? The Lord of the Rings is packed with it. 29:26 Packed with law, but it's, it's law that's difficult to look up, you know, I think. So I don't think so. If I wanna learn about like all the like, like where the Wizards come from or something, like where's Gandalf? Got space. Yeah, but why? Space, yeah. Some of the some of the Wizards are from space. 29:43 No yeah, no. Was ARC. No. The thing is about like we chose like Lord of the Rings and stuff. Same with Game of Thrones as well. Am I all right? So I get those are shy. There's the thing, there's whatever. There's the map. I can see it. 29:58 That's Middle Earth. Yeah. Why is this region about the size of half the size of England, called Middle Earth? What is happening? Is absolutely not half the size of England. It's like what's on the other side of the fucking planet. It's like the size of Pangea. 30:16 All right, okay, but. What? Fucking massive. But what's on the other side of the planet? Nothing. Is it just all ocean? Is there another continent on the there award is I can't? Remember what it's called. There is there is something there. Is another continent that's knocking about. I always, I always think that I watch any fantasy show set on a planet and my and it's always set in a specific region or an island or or a country. 30:38 I'm like, OK, so all this stuff's happening here. There's magic and stuff, there's gods, there's this guy coming back, there's this demon trying to take over the world. But what's going on on the other side of the world? I don't. Know why you can say. That I always. He actually is here. I know, I know it is, but it's something else going on over there that's just as interesting. 31:01 Is there an economic crisis happening? Is there another game over there? Is there an even stronger person than Sauron? Sauron's a God, right? You crash landed on Earth. No, Someone where do you gain this information? Someone crash landed on a comet. I shit you not, there was like 3 great Wizards and they all came to earth for something like that. 31:23 There's five Wizards. And they all came to Earth from space, right? From space there's. Gandalf the Grey, Yeah, there's some on the white. Yeah, there's Radagast, the brain didn't, and then there's none of them came from space. Radagast didn't, yeah. And that was a piece because none of them. Did then there's 2 blue Wizards he never got named. 31:41 Jim and Tim. Yeah, Jim and Tim, the Blue Wizards. That makes me think Jr. Tolkin's a hack if he just didn't name them. You write, you write names. Blue Wizards, Blue Wizards, They're just blue Wizards only. Gizzard Wizard. 31:58 This is King Gizzard and this is the Wizard Wizard. Yeah, none of them came from fucking space. I'm. Sure they did. Absolutely not, they would have come from the equivalent of heaven space. No, because heaven isn't in space. Heaven does exist for start spoilers. 32:17 We know we tried. We got trapped in the cube because we looked for it and it wasn't. The We went beyond the ice wall, then escalators up into what we assumed was heaven, but actually just. A fat cube. 32:33 Just a big cube that I can't leave. Just a big cube with some record and a correct one. That's not sad, actually, I feel like. Oh shit, this all there is looking girl. Oh well, best record. 32:51 But it's not a weekly. Yeah, but it's not a weekly cast. OK, Lord sweat, right? I watched it. Did you ever watch Rings of Power? No do we've had it. We've had this conversation. I watched the first season, I liked it, it was good so some of them hobbits could get it. 33:06 Oh my God, they weren't even called hobbits. They're called like half wings, like proto hobbits little feet. I think there's something they're called little foots. They don't call them hobbits. They call them little folks. I watched it As in like young Bronte Saulers. 33:22 They've got a name that's not a Hobbit, but it's like a pro Hobbit because hobbits haven't. Because hobbits they. Weren't invented at this point. No, because hobbits are known to like, stay in one place and whatnot, right? They, they live in Hobbiton. That's where they stayed. 33:39 But these guys are like travellers, you know, travel all over the place. They they don't like stopping, but I'm pretty sure Gandalf crash landed from a comet from space. So yeah. And then there's all the weird, more about the heavens and stuff, and it's weird and it makes no sense to me and I can't. 33:57 It's not tangible in my head. Because you're too concerned about the price of bananas, not the other side of the world. What are they paying for them? What? Insane. Is it cheaper or is it more I'm. Thinking about these nonsense things, I. 34:13 Hope it's where my mind goes. It's fucking nuts. Anyway, there's nothing phone fucked about them anyway, is there? Well, The Lord of the Rings. No, you know what? You film Lord of the Rings on a handycam. People would fucking believe it. So about Wreck, Right? 34:34 It's one of the friend forage movies. It's a reporter. Can I try and tell you what I think the process? Is yeah, Yeah. Go on. Yeah. Right, so it's about a reporter. Yeah, I got that one for free Birthday, right? There's a derelict building, right? Right. 34:50 And there's this reporter. For our intents and purposes, she's called April. Right? O'Neil And she has to investigate why children keep going missing in this derelict building, why they go in there and they don't come out. 35:08 And it's like, why don't they just close off the building? We can't because it's we don't have the government contract for yellow tape. I don't know. Kids keep playing in this building and they go missing. She's like, you know what Channel 5 news will get on this? She goes in, she does a report. 35:25 OK. Turns out it's vampires and there's sort of like a modern interpretation of like night stalkers in the building. Like not vampires in your traditionals. I want to suck your blood or I'm sexy and I know it vampire like you. 35:43 Just in Timberlake, yeah. You, you grayscale more creature feature vampires. They're in the building. And then she's like, oh God, vampires in this working building. She gets to the top floor. She just finds kid bones everywhere. 36:00 That's like some shitty rapper. Oh, shit's kid bones. That's where you've been all these years. Oh, I don't know, She finds kid bones everywhere. And then she gets dragged into the vampire, which is also on the top floor, which makes no sense because it's closer to the sun. 36:17 She's in the basement. Am I right in thinking? You, you won't lie about any of that part. No, she's a reporter and. I got that part for free. Hello, but is this a true fact? I think this is because I know this from the American one, but in the trailer and on the DVD cover and poster that is the final shot of the film, she's getting dragged off. 36:41 Oh yeah, it is. Yeah. Don't I hate? Why? Good visual. I think that's the only reason. But it's the final shot of the film. I don't agree with that. Don't like it? That's a bad taste in my mouth because I feel like it's like like that ball. 36:59 You want to get people excited and that's the most exciting part of it. That's the last shot. You don't know that that's the final part of the film. But you do after you watch it. Oh right, I've seen. Yeah, but it doesn't matter at that. Point. It's like OK, so. It's exactly a spoiler. Case in point, it's not a spoiler that say, in The Amazing Spider Man 2, Spider Man fights the Rhino, and in the trailer you see the last shot of the film, which was Spider Man whipping a fucking New York City manhole cover at him. 37:24 Yeah, that's the last shot of the film. When that actually showed up and the film was like, that's dumb. I saw that in the trailer and that's the last shot of the fucking film. I was angry I feel like. That's different though, Last. Shot of film, exciting visual. What's your point? Love it when I use your words. 37:42 How? Dare you like chilly? Also, Sony marketing's bullshit. I know it. Yeah, There was like, hey, you know, know, in that new Spider Man film, you know, how much is in it is in all the shots from the trailer. That's it. Great, fantastic. Hey, we're going to cast that guy who played the Lizard in Amazing Spider Man 1. 38:01 Is he playing the Lizard? We won't tell you he's not. You'll come to the cinema and you'll be like, Nah, it's Ray Fiennes and he's being a different character, but we won't tell you that. Hey, remember Baron Mordor from the MCU? Let's put him in this trailer but have the act to play in him, but as different character. 38:19 We might allude to him in the trailers that is Baron Mordor. They did the same thing with Mobius. They had Mobius. What do you say it Mobius, Mobius. That's the one. Mobius is time thing. Mobius they're the same thing. Mobius. They had a poster of spider man in the background, just had a poster of spider man in the trailer just to go people go maybe Spider Man's and maybe we'll watch it. 38:41 They they're lying to people to get the confusing people to get them in building off of like the MCU's framework. Go the promise of a spider man or the promise of something else. On a scale of 1 to 10, how much does my wreck film sound good? 38:58 Also, one is very good and two is absolutely fucking perfection. Absolutely cinema. So it can't be bad. Would you watch my film of vamps and abandoned building? That how? Much is kid bones in it. There's so much kid bones. He's only. On the top of it, yeah. 39:15 Then I'll watch it. As long as I get my kid bones fixed then I'm all like. Oh, there's some phrasing now. My God. This one suck at my kid bones. I'm good. Look at Jesus. Can't cancel what's in a cube. 39:31 Kid Bones, what are you doing up here? Like a fucking Scooby-doo reveal. I'm just working on my new album. Oh fucking great. I can't wait for it actually. Kid bones white didn't sound very. 39:47 White. I don't know, I'm just trying to do a small person a small. Rapper. Yeah, yeah, it. Could be a dwarf. Small in statue. It's in a fantastic dwarf because we were talking about don't, don't act, me can. 40:03 I cancel the walls. Trapped Dems, the rules. Can't cancel what's in a cube. You can take that with. You put anything in an arc, so you can't cancel. It fucking Lord. Right. So vec right? 40:19 Who's recording the reporter? Yeah, she has a cameraman with her. OK, what's he called? I can't remember anyone's name. I'll be honest with you, it's been a while since I've seen it. So she's trying to get like, I don't know if it's supposed to be like one of them sort of feel good stories. 40:36 Like she's, she's doing a piece in a in a fire station. So she's spending a couple days with them getting some shots of what their daily life's like going out on like whatever job they're doing, you know, just doing a piece on them. 40:53 Right, Right. They get called. Yeah, I guess. So. Yeah. We get called to an apartment building. So I was right about two things, a report and a building. It's not a derelict fucking. It's not a derelict. What was it? 41:13 Not a derelict. I'm not telling you touché they get into these spoon, little boy. Blue, the man in the moon over there. 41:30 I'm gonna start saying that's my victory. Chants, chants, chants. The terms of tabled. How about two things, A building and a recorder? And the Building 1 wasn't free. Oh my God, they go to this apartment. 41:50 They go to this apartment block. Right, a cube. Yeah, it's just like this book bigger. There's, there's a lot of beds in it or whatever. All right, they go to this apartment. Of beds, yeah, yeah, I. Mean there's anything you want in the cube, realistically. 42:06 Yeah, it's all. It's all good now. Yeah, Ashley's having a good time. Yeah, she's having a. Yeah, fucking great time, actually. So they go to this apartment block, right? Right. Vampires are not in it. Bait and sledge, Bait and sledge. 42:24 Converted my expectations. For the. Listener. I love doing that to other people. But the listener Mike's eyes went super wide when I said the word vampire. I'm sure they heard my legs stretched to an ungodly amount. 42:41 There's some shit going on. OK, the building is the shit that's going on. Zombies. It's a zombie flick. Children going missing. No, no, no children goes missing. No, no one. Children go missing. No children. No. 42:57 No children go missing. Any children do I? There's fucking you. Tell. People kids in the film, but then. They don't go missing. No bullshit. It's a zombie story. You don't know, You've not seen it. You tell me you don't know this fucking thing. You telling me there's a zombie story about a child? 43:15 It's not about the child. And he doesn't go missing. The main character isn't a child. You're welcome to TOPS report. I'm going to check out this zombie infested building because children are going missing. 43:35 There's children in it and zombies and none of them get. Loads There's not like a schools where a. Crash of kids. Yeah, there's no like one or two and that's it. It's not. This it sounds like a place interested in which seems awful your children in it I just. 43:56 I wanted loads of them. I'd like seeing them get kidnapped and eaten by zombies. So the building gets quarantined. That's. Part of it when that shot got eaten. It's it's got a very good pace to it. There's nothing boring happens at all. 44:12 Even everything when she's doing a fluff story. I sounded pretty. Everything feels meaningful because it feels very true to life. Do the zombies live in the building? Are you asking, are you asking me how they paid for me? Yeah. 44:28 They're OK, right? Or who owns? It how did they how did the zombies get the lease for this room right I. Mean are they confined to the building? This is like the start of the it's. Like a circle of salt around the building, they can't escape it. Essentially, this is where patient zeal is all right. 44:44 This is the start of an outbreak, right? OK, OK, OK. OK. So it's a hospital building. What part of apartment Blog? So it's a series of apartments that are hospitals. 45:02 The building gets quarantined. Oh, that's why the Americans go quarantined. Yeah, OK, which means that no other residents fuck the fire crews from that name the. Quarantines of vampire. Yeah, reporters, they can't leave. A SWAT team gets sent in. 45:20 They can't leave. No, they can't leave either, until whatever's been dealt with has been dealt with. Yeah, it's very good movie. Very good. So wreck. 2. You're telling me it's Last of Us in a tower block, right? So you're telling me it's the film towering? 45:38 Did I? It's the. Film Towering Inferno, but instead of a fire. Did you just describe Backdraft to me? Instead of a fire. It's what's going on. It's zombies. Are you telling me you've just described Die Hard but instead of Hans Gruber it's a zombie? 46:03 Yeah. Do you know what? Yeah, why not? Where's my wife? That was. 46:19 Where are my detonators in zombie glass? Smashes everywhere. 46:38 I feel like I don't need to explain. Oh my God, do I? No. Rec 2. Right, I didn't even know that. Was this this four? This 4. What, are they all set in the same fucking building? No, I've I've not seen 3 or 4 because it seemed like they changed the formula and I wasn't keen on it. 46:59 Three and four weren't in a building. Is it the same reporter? I'm actually died. Didn't you seen it in the post? I don't know, did she or did you know is? She is she zombied? I don't know. I mean, you do Or is it open to interpretation? Telling you Lect 2, right? 47:18 Electric. Bubble. It is set in the same building. OK. At the same time. Oh, but from a different team's perspective. Still still phone footage, yeah, yeah, but shot from different groups point of view. 47:34 I hope she had two cameramen with her at all times and this is just shot from the film. This is just the exact same film, but the other shorter. VEC 2 is the body Cam footage from the SWAT team. All right, OK, that's cool. Do you see the same characters from Req One? 47:49 Do they ever interact? Do you see some certain scenes from certain angles? A bit, yeah, Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah, Vec 1 and Vec 2 work incredibly well as standalones and together. As companion pieces, so three and four, are they just not phone footage then? No. 48:06 OK, what? What? What does a Spanish zombie look like? What does what? Does a Spanish zombie look like? Do the Spaniards? Do zombies feel different? You're trying to, I mean some racist stereotype Spaniard thing. They are olive skin. 48:22 They are. The women are very beautiful. The men are very sweaty. I don't know. They look like zombies to me. Oh, dude, I mean, all, all zombies all over the world look like zombies, don't they? 48:38 You know they're. Just people and all people are the same. They're here. We solved racism. You're welcome. Straight from the cube. Racism solved. But that concludes all our movies. It's a shame we solved racism in the cube, but racism the the solution to racism is also trapped in the cube. 48:56 It's a shame we can't. We can't get out of there. What else can we solve? World hunger. That's solved in here. Yeah, I I have enough food. All the food we could ever eat. We just, we just can't get out though. No more prejudice. It's bliss in here. 49:13 But yeah, that's all our films. We'll talk about some games. Yeah, talk about some games. Well, the, to me horror games, I think it's like there's the main 2 I'd say. And I'd say like for all of gaming from like the 90s to Nauru, it's always been like Resident Evil and Silent Hill. 49:33 It's like the two main spooky ones. Resident Evil started pretty tense, spooky, and then it did the thing that things do. They got silly. Yeah, yeah. Then they kind of rained it back in a bit when spooky thing, but then Silent Hill did the thing where they did 4 absolute amazing games. 49:50 They just went shit. They just stopped trying because as soon as they swapped, they weren't in host developed and they went to like an American studio. All the what makes Silent Hill brilliant, which is the nuance of it, the interpretation of it, the creatures, the enemies, all that went out the window. 50:11 I'm pretty sure in the PS3 games Silent Hill homecoming pyramid as in as a character. I didn't play enough of it, to be honest with you. I'm. Pretty sure a pyramid is in one of the PS3 versions and it's insane. And I think it's that one that starts off where you are getting strapped down by sexy nurses. 50:27 The nurses are, and they are like way breastier than they were in like like the nurses inside. The nurses are in every side. They're inside hill one, They're inside Hill 2-3. And I can't say about four because for some reason I can never get past a very early puzzling fall. 50:46 I had the coin to get to the train station and you just want to put it in the slot. So I just never finished that game. It's a shame because I was really fascinated by that interpretation of it because to me it was more like a what Silent Hill 2 was doing. Like saying it's own thing. Yeah, doing it's own thing. It was very weird, but different, but apparently still really good. 51:04 But meant to talk about Silent 2 because we've both been playing it. So what I like about it, I like the sheer creepiness about it, like the uneasiness, like I can say about the hospital because I'm just in the hospital. But I don't know if you notice this with like your setup and whatnot, but as you're walking through the hospital, you constantly can hear someone struggling to breathe, like they're on like a life support system. 51:28 And it's like it's, and occasionally they might cough a little and it's just like part of the soundtrack and it just constantly makes you feel uneasy. That versus Resident Evil. Yeah, I can round those. Kick a fucking zombie. I can uppercut this 10 ton boulder. 51:45 Yeah, it's like a completely different sort of thing, but I think Resident Evil's got it's spooky moments. Yeah. Yeah, like it's lab section. It might have been, Oh, I feel a bit tense, but just constantly feel on edge during constantly. I want to say it's a mad, scary game because there's not a lot of jumpscares in it, which is good, but it's that sense of pure uneasiness. 52:08 Yeah. And it's, it's, it's all thanks to the sound design of it. If it if it didn't have such a great. Yeah. Sound. Always, constantly. It won't be scary at all. Like nothing. Nothing feels good about the ambience of that. 52:24 Like it's constantly metal and metal construction sounds. Yeah, it's invasive. Yeah, invasive. It's like as well. Yeah, but yeah, the sound design is actually second to none. It's perfect, no game so. But then again, you look at the centre exactly. 52:41 You look at some of the side hill themes, they seem pretty cheery, like the main side hill theme, side hill 2, quite upbeat. It's weird, but. What do you mean the piano? No, not the piano one. I'll, I'll play it for you later. Which one? I mean, I don't think I can play on here. 52:57 I think that's illegal. You can't cancel the cube, but you can copyright strike the cube. Although the cube cannot be cancelled, but it's still susceptible to the to the law of copyright. 53:16 Also sponsorship deals I also get through if they want. It's somewhere they also get through. Eventually, maybe. Could you, I'll tell you what, it can't play. That's fine. Could you do it vocally? No, because I'm not that good. 53:32 You're not even going to give it a try? No, I just can't. I just can't put. It's all tones and tunes and I can't do that because I'm tone deaf. For a start. I think it's called Theme of Laura. I feel like you're not trying. 53:48 I'll be. Honest. I physically cannot. Physically cannot. What's your you've, you've got a lot further than me. What's your favorite part of like Silent Hill 2 so far? What do you like about it? Or what's the most unhinged enemy that you've seen that made you feel uncomfortable? 54:03 It's kind of with a daddy guy in it. Maybe I was, I mean, I've been, I've been tense from the start anyway. From, from the very start of it. Yeah, there's been, I, I had, I had a great sense of urgency to try and just finish what I was doing and get out of there in in the prison and the labyrinth. 54:24 Do you know what I mean? Just all just those those two sections entirely, just. Not looking forward to it. Incredibly tense. I mean I I don't blink a lot when I'm playing that game and my eyes get hot, quite dry. 54:42 Yeah, in the prison. Do they still have the puzzle at all of memory of the puzzle? They might play homage to it. I've not got there yet, but in the original there was a puzzle, I think it involved like a horse in the centre of a outdoor courtyard. You have to put three slots into something or as a statue in an outdoor courtyard. 55:00 But the sound was there was just a horse galloping about a ghost horse and I fucking hated it because I had to. Nothing was in this courtyard. But the sound when I was playing it was like 20 odd year ago. I was like, I do not like any of this. 55:16 I. Sounds like the the, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it sounds like there's something, name it. And the way this they play about it with the sound of the levels, it feels like it's close to you and it's just like, yeah, don't like it. Is that back? At first I thought you meant about the horseshoe in the wax to lift the grey up. 55:34 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's in the game. Is that one of those memories? Oh yeah, OK, I thought so. Well, yeah, you don't have the courtyard still. Yeah, you still got to mess about with the weights puzzle. Oh, that's that was it, yeah. 55:51 And yeah, that horse galloping around is still there. I hate it. Is it horrible? Yeah, it's still, it's it, it still makes you. Listen, Listen to it with your 3D noise headphones. No, no, I won't Listen to it with these very expensive headphones that I paid money for. 56:08 A lot of money for? Absolutely not. Well, yeah, like say in the prison. Well, you, you really introduced to a new enemy type, which is like the I, I always categorize them as like the normal Silent Hill enemies and the locked Silent Hill enemies. 56:26 Yeah. So you've got your mannequins and they've got the locked mannequins, which is like they, they they have like spiders almost, you know, I mean, the crawling on the walls and the ceiling and all that sort of shit. Yeah. That's where they are introduced. 56:42 It's it's in the prison and you don't know that the girl at first. Do you know what I mean? Why would you dark as fuck? It's dark as shit. There was. I actually saved a little bit to show you all. Right. Well, I went around this corner dark as folk, and when I turned the flashlight on is when they started scurrying away. 57:05 Away. OH, why was your flashlight off? No, sorry, it wasn't. It wasn't when the flashlight was off. There's like levers that activate the main lights. Oh, right, I. See so when I did the main light lever. Oh, and then you saw saw them all. Yeah, and it was like, because they are now lit, they want to get into the darkness so that they can get me easier. 57:24 So they can hide. Yeah. Fucking love hiding. Yeah, these fucking mannequins. But the lights of unlike a timer, right? So you can turn it on, but you might be halfway during the corridor and get closed Into Darkness again. Don't like that, don't like that at all. 57:42 I would say like for again, it was same with the original 1 back in the day. If I was playing like, say, if I was playing like Dead Space or a Resident Evil and it was that dark, I'd be annoyed. But I can't fucking see shit. I'm annoyed. What's the plan? But I think the way they play about with lighting and the fact that you torch is like a pinhole light, half of the time you can't see shit. 58:03 It works in a way that's not annoying, but it works in an uneasy way. And I don't know how they've managed to accomplish that. Because it's not annoying because I play games that are too dark and I can't see fucking shit, you know? But but I think, I think for horror games, I think Silent Hill is probably like one of the best. 58:21 Silent 2 specifically, yeah. But in terms of Resident Evil, I'd probably just be like really basic about it. And I'll probably just say the first one is probably still my favorite one. I really like Resident Evil 2 as well, and then naturally 4, but four? 58:38 It's not spooky. It's not, but I feel like it's the most playable. It is the most play. It's the most accessible as well. Like anyone can just play receivable 4. Yeah, it doesn't really. You don't need to play the other ones. I think for me, that's that. That's why it's the best one. Because you're right, you don't. 58:54 You don't have to have all this ground about a law where you like, you have to have played this and you have to have read that. Oh, do you not play Lyon Kennedy's first day? And it wasn't. Just gonna say scrub. It is just a. Fake fan God. And yeah, very easy to play. 59:12 Far easier to play than any of the ones. Yeah, it is. And then they try to do the same thing. Still, it's still difficult, still like a challenging game. Oh yeah, but very easy to learn how to do actually do it. Did you ever play the Resident Evil? Was it Biohazard 7? 59:29 The one with the Baker's family? A bit of it. The Baker, That one, that one's really good. I've not done the one after that, The one with the big mommy vampire in it. I own it because naturally It's scary though, even though. 59:46 Is it? Is it fighting me? It's frightening because I might. Have to talk to you, Scott. Oh my God. I thought it was like. I am frightened of how much I'm attracted to this, but. 1:00:02 Absolutely. I do not want to play. I do not want to play a game bricked up. I will not be. I will not be comfortable at all. I'm already frightened, I don't need to be light headed as well because all of them are somewhere else. Exactly, like I tend to stay away from a lot of horror games. 1:00:20 I had the idea of a lot of horror games, but I do frighten quite easily. But I always feel like it's a point of like, back in the day, Silent Hill 2 was one of the few horror games that I ever finished out of all of them. And it was like a point of pride because it's like it's one of the scariest ones out there. 1:00:36 It's open to massive interpretation. It can be whatever, like, but not be whatever you want. You can have wrong opinions on it. Oh, maybe. Maybe James was a good person. No, you're wrong. I don't think it's a sexual throw. You're wrong. Sexual throw a psychological. 1:00:54 What would you class it as? Well, it's psychological. Yeah, but you got to have the word sexual in there somewhere. A sexual psychological failure. I don't think it's those. I don't think you need to add in the sexual. Sex is a massive part of it to be fair. It's one of the main themes of the game is like lost and that's what I think anyway. 1:01:17 James is an absolute horn dog. But the only things that the only things I've never really looked into and that is like what's Eddie's story? Why is he the and he just feels like a weird character to be the what is it to James? 1:01:33 Why is he interacting with James? What's what does he see? What's his personal version of Silent Hill like? Is he looking for someone or is he just the I mean Eddie always see always seem like a nonplus character to me. Eddie's. Sort of like like a James is he's lost his is more gluttony in it. 1:01:54 I guess you could. Yeah, that makes sense. So like, say, when when you're fighting, yeah, essentially you are in a section of his hell yeah where there's hanging meat. Everywhere there's meat ever. Do you reckon he's like walking through silent or fighting meat demons? 1:02:11 But it's also implied that he's going around killing normal people. It sort of feels like. Which is weird to me. He's in Silent Hill because he killed someone out of anger, because of how much he's been bullied about is is way to the amount that he eats. 1:02:26 You know what I mean? It sort of feels to me He's never explained, you know what I mean? Well, it's never. That's one of the good things you don't need. You don't need an explanation. Sort of within my own head cannon it's the maybe he killed his own mother. 1:02:42 Yeah, and he's going. He got a lot of. Repressed guilt, maybe? Anyway, I don't know Like say. I always thought in the past Eddie was there purely for the purpose, just so James could take a human life. 1:02:59 But you know, instead of killing monsters and whatnot and stuff, he's there just so he can have that ramifications of killing an actual person one of the first time he's done. It I mean that that adds to James's story. I thought that's the only reason Eddie was there. I mean all all human characters are the fault their own personal demons though. 1:03:18 Yeah, just because the other people's aren't explained properly. Do you think when Eddie is fighting James, do you think it would? It wouldn't make much sense because from James's point of view, he's just there as a person. But do you think Eddie sees something when he's fighting James? 1:03:34 Like maybe Eddie sees Pyramid Head or not Pyramid Head because that'd be James's thing, but maybe he sees something like and all the nurses and the things are like actual people. Do you know what? Ron, I think I've cracked the code. 1:03:51 Cracked the code. He's solved Silent Hill. Your first interaction with Eddie. When he's in the fridge, yeah, in the fridge. He's near a he's near a fridge. You find that he's in the apartment. 1:04:06 Yeah, yeah. Broke it. And he is in the fridge, you're right. In that's hospital, but yeah. In the fridge, James is not very nice to Eddie. He's. Just found a dead body. He's short with Amy's, do you know what I mean? Yeah, the second time you see Eddie, where Eddie's eating and James makes a comment of. 1:04:24 Bringing ice cream for your fat folk. I mean, he doesn't say that, but he's long as well. He's. But it's something within the same vein, isn't it? So essentially James is an antagonist to Eddie. 1:04:43 James is just the most recent in a long string of people that have given him shit for his weight, for his eating habits, for how he looks, for whatever. Right. Maybe the reason why you are seeing so many of James's dead bodies because that is what you keep seeing. 1:04:59 Because Eddie is killing people or killing monsters who know look like James. Maybe, Yeah, yeah, maybe he just sees James everywhere. And then? And that's that's that's all because James is the most recent of many. Yeah, and the boss fight is just another one. 1:05:17 Yeah, maybe that's yeah, yeah, that makes sense. So you maybe every time you find like one of James's jackets as well, maybe that's like a thing That's that's a cool theory. I'll I'll subscribe to that theory. Fucking done it. I've done it. I've solved. I've solved Eddie's Silent Hill. 1:05:32 I've done it. Because he always feels like. The fucking cool dinner. I always felt like, I think they tried. I always feel like, and he played a boat with like, oh, this corpse might be James's corpse in the original one, but the one that meant I think it was only like 2 instances. 1:05:52 I think there's a corpse you find on the floor and there's the one on the chair. But I feeling this, it's a lot more like every sort of human thing you see that's dead kind of looks like James. Even if you see part of it's wearing his boots, it's wearing his pants, it's wearing his coat. You know, he's got that luscious blonde 90s. 1:06:11 I think James suddenly and Kennedy should have a her off, a 90s boy her off. But yeah, it was like horror protagonists from the 90s. Girl, they do look kind of similar. Excuse me, I was talking to someone about saying Hill at work today, and I always talk about how much of A dickhead James is for, you know, doing what he did and being thing he's like. 1:06:33 And then she said because she's played the original as well, she says I kind of forgive him more in the remake. And I was like, all right, yeah, why? Why did you forgive him more in the remake? Because he's hot. Because he looks hot. He doesn't. I'll be honest. Yeah, Easy. Looks like an old lemon, baby. 1:06:48 He's. A disheveled man, you know, I prefer him when he looked like a smooth David Bowie. You have that weird Gaunt thing going on about. It looked like a melted Keith of Sullivan to me. 1:07:04 A. Little bit, yeah, yeah. But I like how dishevelled and he looks like a 40 year old. I'm I'm done with this because he's not he's not your typical video game protagonist. He he does, yeah. He's not good at action. He's not a good fighter. 1:07:20 But the combat in the game I think is very good, vastly improved on the original. Yeah. You know. Yeah, again, it's the playability factor. Do you know what I mean? I would say in many ways I think this manages to surpass the original, which I thought was something I'd never say. 1:07:40 Like, I think it adds more to it. It respects where it came from by showing you all the little memories, things that you can unlock. It's nice for the people who played it. I'm like, yeah, I really fucking like. I think it's out of horror remakes. And I'd say there's only been 3, which was Dead Space, all of the President Eve, but let's just say Resident Eve, Resident Evil 4 because it's the popular one, and Silent Hill two. 1:08:06 I would say Silent 2 is probably the best one in my opinion. Yeah. Even though you you put you played Dead Space as well, didn't you? The remake, did you? No. I didn't play the remake. No, no, I think I've, I think I've got it in my library, but. Yeah, like I said, it's more more of the same. 1:08:23 There's things that are slightly different. There is evil ones do thing, they do things quite different, like they'll put things out of order and stuff. But more, more often than not, they are beat for beat. So is this to be fair, But it feels like, I don't know, it just feels better. 1:08:40 It reminds me of like, why I like, I think I just like horror games that make you think it's not just a spook for being a spook. I like things that look uncomfortable. Like it's not just a zombie. It's not just a a reanimated corpse. It's something that looks familiar, but you can't place it. 1:09:00 I think that's a lot of the enemies in Silent Hill, like the the Lionel figures, which are the things that look like things in straight jackets. Yeah, literally what they are. Some guy, the guy designed them, the designer, these Co workers were coming to work. He had his hoodie up, he had his music and he was just listening and he was shuffling. 1:09:18 Oh, that's a cockroach. I'll do that. Fucking Bob's your uncle job's done, money please. But like like same with the boss fights with like fucking flash lips. It's just uncomfortable to fuck out. Like, you know, this features of a person there somewhere, but where the lips are placed and his arms and his weird box cube, It's like the implications of what that means. 1:09:42 You know, the way it's caged up and the way it's there and it's just uneasy and it's that thing about your imagination does a lot worse than what could physically be shown. Honestly, the creature designs of that particular game are probably like some of the best, even though there's not a lot of them. 1:10:00 It's what what is it? It's legs, it's people in hood is it's nurses and it's fucking giant. And it's the Pyramid Head. And Pyramid Head and it's these giant fucking women with Dicks for arms and mouths on the end of them, I guess. 1:10:18 Yeah, that's about it. And a couple of boss fights, you know, but they're all. But maybe I would. That's that's always there. Maybe I would, yeah. I can't think of any of like good horror games that I really like because I don't vibe with them a lot. 1:10:37 I'd say the games with horror sections like the first time charted, I got very spooked for the first time I played that because I did not, did not enjoy the The Descendants. Yeah, I mean, I'll play it now. It's fine. I know it's coming. It's fine. But the first time it really caught me off guard. 1:10:56 Yeah, the whole game changes. Just feels like it's. Yeah, it does, yeah. Yeah, it's no longer a cover thing. You got to run, fight for your life and always keep moving because these fucking this isn't. Idiotic Jones. Because these Spaniards, zombies, Spaniards again, these descendants. 1:11:17 Do you think the Wreck series is directly tied to the Uncharted? Is it because the reporter phoned the Elderado? Yeah. And then the Yeah, yeah, I don't. Know, no, that horror element, I was like, yeah, it's cool, but it fucking freaked me out back in the day because I just didn't expect that this isn't a fun romp anymore. 1:11:38 Now I'm going through fucking derelict buildings, running away from grey fucking zombie things. I think at the time I was like, Oh my God, is this fucking Silent Hill? But yeah, do you ever play Silent Hill 3? I never played one. I've only really played the second one if I'm being honest. 1:11:54 With you the only one you really need to. It's the best one in three. I've already figured it out so. Yeah, exactly. One in three, one in three direct sequels with each other. And it's all about like the cult of Silent Hill and ascending to become a new God or she should be a God or something. 1:12:09 We need to sacrifice. It's fine. I've, like I said, I play Silent Hill Three. I liked it. Not as good as two, just because it's not. I don't know, there's still a lot of things that represent stuff for Heather, you know, and all the creatures are like stuff that affect her. 1:12:27 And then four I'd love to replay because I've seen some visuals of four. That's why I really want the team who did sign Hill two to do 4, because again, that's another stand alone one. It's fucking weird. I don't know if you've seen any of the visuals of it, but it's fucking bizarre. There's ghosts in that one that just float through walls like like that, you know, like that fucking, I'm sure there's a fucking JoJo character that's just like a ball skull head and just arms just that. 1:12:54 And they have them like creeping, crawling through walls. It's not fun. And I know there's one room where it's just a big baby's head and his eye follows you around. The most frightening thing of all? Yeah, big baby babies. 1:13:12 And I really enjoyed, I really enjoyed PT. If you ever played PTI. Played it at yours. Yeah, because I own it and that makes my PlayStation extremely rough because you can't. You're not allowed to download anymore because Konami like that for some reason. 1:13:29 No, you can't have a Hideo Kojima fucking side hill game. We'll cancel it, which is a shame because I had really good potential. I had amazing potential just that. Like that was probably the most horror filled scary game I've played since Silent Hill 2. 1:13:45 And I remember before when when that came out and the Internet was aghast about what the fuck is this PT, what is, what is it, What's the deal with PT? And it took the Internet about a good two days or a day and a half to figure out it was a Silent Hill game, which in Internet terms, that's a long fucking time. 1:14:03 People usually like quick on that shit and then when they realised this I was like oh shit because I was saying this is the best horror experience since Silent Hill 2. Before I knew it was going to be a Silent Hill game. And I don't know if you ever saw the full concept trailer that was released. 1:14:21 It's very low quality footage but it's really good. It's like it starts off as like a kids ball rolling down a corridor, door slam short, toys start moving. And it's like it's I believe it was an engine, but it was like a proof of concept. 1:14:37 Like that trailer came out well after the PT demo existed. Like this is going to be the next Silent Hills. And there's elements I think that Kojima took with Death Stranding because at one point the brush of handprints that come out of nowhere to start walking on the wall. 1:14:53 And I think that's a big theme in Death Stranding as well. Yeah, there's a lot of invisible enemies that just leave tracks, you know, death strategy. I'd love to play it but I feel like it'd be boring but I know I'd like it. Yeah, I've, I've, I've played a bit of it. It's it is a bit fucking boring actually, but. 1:15:09 I know there'll be elements to it that make it good, just there between few and far between. It it looks very good and I've. Seen the track for the second one and I really want to play that one and. Everybody plays is very good as well. I did this thing where nothing happens for so long. 1:15:25 I did the same. The second game looks really good but I guess I have to play the first game. I could do the same thing with Alan Way 2. Alan Way 2 looks amazing and it is amazing. Like I don't know, it's better than the first one even though I've not played a lot of it, but I know it is better than the first one because I've played about 5:00 or so hours of it. 1:15:45 But in order to fucking play that, I had to play the first one otherwise I wouldn't know what was going on. God the first one sucks. I know a lot of people will be angry at me that, but it just, it's dated. Tried with the first one. Boring. It's long, it's overstays it's welcome. 1:16:01 Like 3 chapters in I think and I was finished with it, didn't do one anymore. I. Don't wanna. I don't wanna shine lights on people. Anything else spooky to talk about? I've got another couple of games on the list. I'll put Siler Hill, I'll put Dead Space. 1:16:16 We've talked a bit about Dead Space, but we'll talk a bit more if you want. Yeah, Necromorphs quite like it. The the lore of Dead Space confuses me. Why? Big big statue turns people into necromorphs. Yeah, it's like a because what it's called, it's a monolith in it. 1:16:33 The marker. The marker, yeah. But there's like a bunch of them but one of them's man made and there's a cult that worship it but it lives in the planet I'd I'm confused about the law. I'm. I'm not sure, right? Well, no, right. The the marker doesn't turn you into a space zombie. 1:16:50 Essentially it's like a it's it's the kind of zombie which is parasite which transforms the body. Right. Into that's that's what the flying things are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. But where do they come from? The markers are actually I I think. 1:17:07 They make you go insane if you get close to them or they have an aura they they emit an aura that can make you go insane. Do you know? I don't, I don't think they did it in the games they did it in. They did it in the movies though, where the markers acted as like a barrier from the Necromorphs, like the necromorphs couldn't couldn't get near it. 1:17:29 It's all Canon anyway because it's like they really want to do like a multimedia thing. When it first came out of comics, games, whatever. They really back in the day they like did a big push for like it's going to be everywhere. We're going to do films and whatnot. But obviously the Dynamite, I think the animated film was pretty low quality. 1:17:47 I think there's two of them. There was two of them. One of them was. Aftermath. Was that what it was called or? Yeah, it was. It was aftermath and it was, I can't know what. They're always called outbreak all out last or something something. I have seen them both but. 1:18:03 One of them was like sort of half CG. Yeah, Rosie. The one was fully illustrated. It was it was just a cartoon movie. The. Animation was like cheap, they did the same. Above. Yeah, but it was like re watch it, you'll see. They did the same thing with EA again. 1:18:20 They did the same thing with is it Dante's Inferno? They did an animated film like alongside that when that game came out. Yeah. Why? I don't know. It's. Just it's just, I don't know the game or it might be the prequel to the game, but then the. Prequel it was. It was just the story of the game it. 1:18:37 Came out alongside with the game they played, Anthony's Inferno. I really enjoyed. Dancing. Play a demo of it really. And I was like, this has got a war, This has just got a war. Like shot for shot, it's got a war. It's not sure for sure. 1:18:54 A place like God of War is. Yeah, because it's a hacking slash. But it's not just any hacking slash, it's a square square triangle hacking slash. So what? It's a good formula. And it's like 1 where it's like circles your dodge roll. That's like, he's got that little silly jump. He's climbing this ladder. 1:19:09 He's in hell, just got a war. It is a pretty. It is. Devil may cry. It's absolutely not. There's more skill involved than Devil May. Absolutely not at all. Character actions, girls and triangles and jumping like a Dick. The only difference is is that you play it as a virgin and that's it. 1:19:31 Chris is absolutely not a virgin. And you know, if you play the reboot, yeah, virgin he fucks. Oh, he fucks all day, all day. I. Guess he's cool. The best devil may cry. Oh, you're doing a nose and alien and everybody who's had you before. For the listener, a good for. 1:19:51 The listener. A good 15% of that was purely to make Mike angry. Yeah, yeah. No, I actually, I actually don't like that one. Taking a break from his cabbages and his potatoes. Oh. My God that's so good. 1:20:07 This guy hates. Everyone but Oh yeah, I've really enjoyed dances and fun. It was going to be. Originally, it was going to be the first game in a trilogy. It was. Yeah, I heard that. But then, yeah, he just thought. We spent too much money. We spent too much money. Maybe we should have done that animated film. 1:20:24 Maybe we could have had some budget over for the other one for the sequel. I heard the premise for the sequel stem. It sounded like fair interest in. I don't know. He got his wife back. They'll live. Apple ever after. Yeah. As I understand it, it's once I've I've I've not led the it's the Divine Comedy in it. 1:20:42 Yeah, no one, no one's read. It's fucking. I wouldn't. Really like to. There must be an English translation. We went through this fucking journey to the West. Yeah, there's an English translation of that. It's. Not all of it, though. It's a good. Portion. Of it we didn't find out who's some Wukong fell in love with. 1:21:00 Yeah, I know. But yeah. So the first part, he travels through hell. Yeah. Yeah. Second part, he travels through heaven, yeah. So game two would have been you're you're not fighting demons or like the fucking purgatory damned or anything like that. 1:21:17 You're fighting angels and seraphim and. So it's like Devil May Cry 4. Yeah, except good. And then the third game was. I didn't really like Devil May Cry for that, just saying. 1:21:34 The third game was in going to be troubling the earth for whatever reason, so it was going to be like a grand tale of the three kingdoms. Sounds like Jenny to the West, but he did all that. Absolutely does. He did all that in a week. He went to hell, he went to hell, and then he went. 1:21:51 It says nothing. Like Jenny he went. How's he saying? Like Jenny to the West. So in Jenny to the West somewhere he come. He went to hell, you traveled through hell for a little bit, wrote his names off the Ledger, then after that you went to heaven, fucked about in heaven for a little bit, then he went to earth. 1:22:08 No, he started in Earth for his start. Well, so did. So did the fucking he. Went to hell as a tourist and then decided to rub his name and all his friends when? He said he started on. Earth, and then he worked in heaven. Yeah, obviously it. Wasn't like he was doing some divine retribution. 1:22:25 He was. He was eating Peaches for fuck's sake. And then he came back down because he was banished again. Who's the main guy and. Told to go on a fucking walk for about 14 years. The guy's name in Dante's Inferno. Dante's name? Dante. Yeah. How original. 1:22:43 OK, now what's his brother called? Virgil. It is. And I know. I know he is. Anyway, obviously Dante's story starts on Earth. You can't say some Wukong starts on Earth. So it's different starting off, then he gets to Hell, then he went to heaven, then he's back on Earth. 1:23:03 Like. Is Virgil in the game? Yes, as like a loosely as a guide, like he'll tell you about what the place is, where you are now. Is his colour theme blue? You could say Dante's colour theme is kind of red. 1:23:19 He's got that Red Cross on. He's got right in him. RIP off a fucking devil May cry. Devil. The Divine Comedy is a RIP off of the Devil May Cry series. The Divine Comedy is an absolute RIP off over Shimabi Tencent 3 featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry. 1:23:43 Hey, have you read the Divine Comedy featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry? Oh my God. So go on these markers because from what I understand, I played all three games. I have not played the third one, it did not interest. I've not played, OK, I said. 1:23:58 I've played. I've played all three games. I've not completed all three games and I could not get through the third one. It was just awful. They took all the fucking charm out of it. Yeah, hey, by ammo. Hey, all you guns, you have one gun, it does everything. 1:24:18 Boring. Too many enemies on screen. But there was more human enemies in that one. But human zombie enemies rather than full necromorphs. It's weird. I don't I don't know something about the markers, but from what I understand there's a human made marker and then a natural one. 1:24:36 Yeah, it's like. And I think in the law there's a planet sized marker. It's just as big as a fucking planet, kind of. It's very like HP Lovecraft coded the whole you go insane if you go near it. Yeah, because the marker itself is filling your head with designs into do you know what I mean? 1:24:58 Which is why there are human made markers, because the marker itself is forcing the information. Yeah, won't do a sequel to it, though, because they're all like, no, right, No, didn't, didn't sell billions. No one's playing it anymore because they don't like single player games. 1:25:16 No, no one's playing it after a month. Yeah, they bought it. It stored well, we can't make money on that anymore. All right, fuck it. What was that? What was that game? Kind of what it's called, which is essentially dead. 1:25:32 Dead Space only came out like a. Cholesterol protocol. Cholesterol protocol. That was it was so bullshit that because it's like EA literally cancelled cancelled got disbanded the company Visceral Games who did Dead Space. Like now I've gone whatever they do when they like cancel the company. 1:25:50 I don't know what the correct term is. Shut down, shut. Down. Yeah, shut down visual games. Oh shit. Years later did a Cluster Protocol and as Cluster Protocol gets a nice they go, we're going to remake Dead Space, and Dead Space didn't do better than Cluster Protocol. 1:26:05 I've not played it so I can't say, but apparently Cluster Protocol wasn't. I enjoyed it. Good. I thought it was good. Not not like a massively long game or anything, but yeah, good. Visually good. I'm sitting visuals are good. Is it just like Dead Space but not sort of thing? 1:26:21 Yeah, pretty much. It's just it's space zombies again. Space zombies again. You've got your health on your spine. Yeah, it's it's got all the makings of a Dead Space just. Watch where your shoes. Don't look as like. 1:26:37 Off the lens. You don't have to. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's got that same spooky feel that the first Dead Space had. It's got that really set on a prison planet. Cool. I'll play it at some point. Yeah, yeah. 1:26:53 Not, not not long, you know what I mean. I, I don't know exactly like 10 to 15 hours perhaps, but. I hope they do do a remaster of Dead Space too because I'd like to see what they redo to that one because I think that one was visually better and bigger and I would like to replay it again and I just don't want to faff about it with the PS3 version and I don't think you can download it on. 1:27:17 Yeah, I don't know. Unless it's on that weird plus streaming thing. Classic collections? I don't know. I don't think it's on the no. I've also got Outlast written down I. Couldn't play them. They're like, I'm not a big fan of horror games where you're defenceless and I don't like horror games where you're constantly being stalked. 1:27:39 Like it was, it was an easy in fucking Resident Evil 2 Remake when you're being stalked by fucking Mr. X. I just want to start my puzzle in peace and I'm just going to burst through the door any second. Tasty bitch. Stop it. Just leave me alone. I was like, I couldn't play Alien Isolation for that long because I was like, I just I know what I need to get. 1:27:59 It's on the table of learning to put it in the key thing over there. It's got this fucking Xenom on my fucking ass constantly. It's never not not chasing me. And it's smarter than me. No, Oh my Lord. I can't, I can't take it. 1:28:16 So I I've tried playing out last. So visually it was very good for the day. But I think it started that trend of horror games where you're defenceless and the whole thing is run into a room and hide into a cupboard and wait, watch it stalk around the room. Oh thank God it's gone now I can move. 1:28:32 Hello boys. I think it was. It was for me, it's the start of the horror game, which is like, these are going to be more popular for people to watch rather than play. We'll watch other people play them and then like those games, No, those aren't last star games. 1:28:49 They're a dime a dozen. Like they're cheap to make streamers play them. There's jumpscares galore in them. But yeah. Jumpscares galore. Jumpscares galore. I mean James Bond sexy femme fatale. 1:29:06 Hi James, I'm Jumpscares. She. Lifts up her skirt, they quit, she's not wearing any knickers. And then James Bond gets her, because that's what. 1:29:21 It's actually talking about. He has his way, don't he? So is how James Bond does. James Bond gets her. It's what Johnny B does Johnny B good. Oh my God, yeah, I think, I think part of the thing without last days is that I mean, yeah, you are. 1:29:41 You are under threat a lot of the time. Do you know what I mean? There's nothing you can do, but apart from gotta hide, right? You. Got You can only see in the dark if you're looking through your camcorder, right? Yeah, yeah. Which? Has a very limited, which is stupid, limited battery supply. Yeah, yeah, the battery's drained very quick. 1:29:58 Any any game any any horror game which has a top or a battery feature that drains. They drain too quick. I can own a torch and the batteries won't run out for months. Any any horror game with the battery limit on torch. Are you constantly picking up batteries? 1:30:14 Who's leaving these fucking AAA's everywhere? Yeah, I know, I know. But it's about figuring out it's. About the friends you made along or where? Yeah. Yeah, it's about figuring out what's happened because essentially you are a reporter, I think. 1:30:33 And yeah, do you know what I mean? Yeah, you're in a derelict building. Those vampires children are being kidnapped. Always comes back to wreck. One of the best Hollywood movies ever made. Yeah. Always goes back to it. Did you watch it in Spanish or did you watch it in Spanish dubbed? 1:30:50 Oh, Spanish subbed with their subtitles. Yeah, No, it was. It was a good game, I thought. Decent story did. You ever play any of the sequels like the? I got the DLC for the first one. Which was called or whatever it was called. 1:31:06 Machine for the pigs. That's what the last two is called. No, that was. Black Sabbath album. No, OK. Oh fucking I can't remember what the hobby series is this. 1:31:21 It's something I've not really played at all. Is this something similar to Outlast? Yeah, kind of. Maybe I'm getting my things mixed up. Was there a new out last game that came out recently called scorch trials or something or something? Trials where it's like a new scenario each month and it was like different DLCS. 1:31:39 Well, that sounds familiar, but I'm not sure it. Was called like scorch trials. I'm not sure. Yeah, the DLC for the first one, which was called Whistleblower. Oh yeah, Which you were. It's called the last trials. I'm thinking scorch trials. That was the fucking major in a series. 1:31:58 The last trials. Oh, right, look at hell. Oh, they came out this year. Yeah, Whistleblow DLCS is is a set you're you're playing as someone else. You're playing as a whistle. Machine for Pigs Amnesia is that movie. 1:32:19 Movie. Is that game series Amnesia? Yeah, it's set at the same time, in the same place. This is this is a very wreck and wreck to situation. Same time, same place, localized entirely within the kitchen. 1:32:36 So you play as a SWAT team. So already it's bad because I can defend myself in somewhere. Oh my God, I played a little bit of Outlast 2. No, I didn't play a lot of it because it felt like didn't feel like the first game anymore. 1:32:55 Do you know what I mean? It's. Yeah, it felt sequel. Yeah, you wanted to play the exact same game again. Well, no, I mean like you're saying, play. Out last twice, not out last two. With the first out last game, you felt confined and trapped. 1:33:12 There was a claustrophobic sort of element to it because you're trapped in an asylum with the oat mates, oat mates, the inmates. And they're all sane. Everyone says so much. You're, you're just with the visitors in the visitors centre. 1:33:29 That's it. We're. Called the Oat Mates, it's a gay name for a podcast. Last two is set on like this massive farm. There's were like this grand wide open areas. 1:33:45 I generally thought you're gonna say fart. I was too, so I'm a massive fart. And it's about like a cult as well. I don't know, it felt like it was. Just trying too hard. Like it wasn't even part of the same series, you know what I mean? 1:34:01 Like the story didn't continue or anything. Felt like they were adding unnecessarily law unnecessarily. Law maybe, yeah. Just to yeah, yeah. Something people to talk about? Something about Alien Isolation. I don't know how well when I came into this nugget. 1:34:21 It's a cube. No. We're not trapped in the nugget. But the the model of the Xenomorph, yeah, it has two brains. I I know this, yeah. One brain is in control of the body and that's that's the brain that's trying to find you. 1:34:39 And brain number two knows exactly where you are. At all times and. Is only sprinkling clues to brain #1. Yeah, yeah, I think it was in like a making of documentary I. Have a look in the. Maybe he's doing the whole type thing. He's cheating if you ask me. 1:34:55 I don't. Think he's cheating? Maybe there should be brain, just one brain that just does its own thing. But no, they they did a really good job with the genome of itself, like a witness thing, a witness things which weren't scripted, that felt very scripted like because there's other enemies as well or other humans on the ship as well. 1:35:17 I remember. Yeah, there's there's other humans which I don't know if they're like space pirate type or. Like squabbles or something. But there's also androids that you have to try to there are. Androids as well. 1:35:32 I remember a scene where I was hiding under a Gurney sort of thing, and then there's a guy coming around the corner again, completely unscripted because that's just how the game is. It was like one of the space pirates going around the corner. And then I just saw like the tale of like the xenomorph just like impaling straight through. 1:35:50 And then he fell back and just saw his legs get dragged off. And to me, that was like one of the best moments of the very brief time I spent with the game was like, oh, that's cool as fuck that that just happened in on my eyes. I saw that quick hit record. Wait, PlayStation don't have that then did it? 1:36:06 I think PS4 did have that to be fair. Yeah, it did, yeah. But I probably wasn't faffing about it with it then. But yeah. Yeah, I've, I've, I've not done so much with the PS4 the. Share Features Yeah, yeah. Any other Spooks? 1:36:26 I've written books as well. I've never read a spooky book in my life. I mean, Lovecraft is. I guess. So considered all of it. Did that one story about cats going missing That was cruel. Stabbed this song in his head and he just played a lot of songs. 1:36:48 Any lovecraft story? Oh shit what's that fuck. Oh you better believe it's creepy. Oh geez, if you saw this your eyes would bleed I can't even describe. It I saw this thing yet last night and I was so scared. 1:37:08 Oh, was it? I'm not telling you it's a secret. I am no insane because of what I've witnessed and I. Have been driven mad by what I've witnessed. Can't take you anywhere. He's crazy. 1:37:26 Also racism. The product of the time, The very racist time. His cat was a product of the time. Yeah, exactly that. Yeah, there's, there's, there's some really cool stories he's done. 1:37:43 Like there's some cool stories. Pickman's What's it called? Art thing. There's painter, right? Yeah. Why? That was a tile of those I. Can't remember, I'm not read, I'm only halfway through the collection. I can't remember the fucking tile Pigman's model. 1:38:01 Pigman's model is dumb witch horror. Yeah yeah, pretty iconic one. I've not actually read Caller Katulu. I mean, it's, it's sort of split up into like. Just little sections and you just like don't. A lot of different, yeah, shorter stories. Yeah, short stories. 1:38:17 And you just thought of the but there is one call caller, Katulu. Yeah, but he does pop up in many things. You lose fish, people, don't they? Those wet beans. Anything near the ocean, anything wet and smelly and fish like everyone's near a fucking seaside town. 1:38:36 Can't recall. I'd have to do some. I'd have to do some rereading of some HP Lovecraft and get it in there. I. Mean one. The one of the places that one of the Cthulhu stories is, is Innsmouth. Oh yeah, we'll see. 1:38:52 A lot of them have got seaside British towns. The fish people have a name though, don't they? I can't. I can't remember what they're actually called. Yeah, they're called English people. I don't know. Talking about Southerners. Southerners, that's what I was trying to find a word. 1:39:09 I was going to, I was going to call them Devonites, but yeah, Jesus Christ, Southerners. Yeah, I'm too tired to. What was that? 1:39:25 There's a series on Netflix. It's. Night Gaunts. I don't know, that's a page we love stuff thing. It is. It is. And it sounds like it could be a Netflix series. Shit, have you seen Night Gaunts? Yeah, that sounds believable. Yeah, it was. It was introduced by Guillermo del Toro like he has like a. 1:39:48 Oh yeah, Gamma Totoro's trinky secrets. Cabinet of kiosks. Well, yeah, they do. They do a pigment's model in an episode. Very good. I'm going to watch it. 1:40:04 I mean, you find Lovecraft in all kinds of shit, don't you? Yeah, it's just cosmic horror, isn't it? Yeah, it's good shit. It's the unknown. It's scary. You could say fucking Silent Hill's Lovecraft in. In that sense, it's a lot about the unknown. Yeah, yeah, he would absolutely love those things because he. 1:40:22 What the fuck is that? I don't have to describe it. It's like AI struggled to describe the things inside Hill other than legs. How? Do I describe it? It's legs you like. 1:40:38 He would fucking love them games actually. Like oh shit, you seeing that? Fucking bad for that shit. It's it probably tries to steal it. It's like, you know what, you know what I mean this you know what? Replace all the fog with wet. With the ocean, yeah. 1:40:54 Take out the fog. Put in the ocean. You know those guys in jackets? Make them fish. Not like for food, just make them look like fish. Yeah, yeah, give them a big fish head. Keep keep everything else a burden, but give them a big fish fucking. Oh, you know, you know, a flesh lit boss fight. 1:41:10 You know those lips are put a fish though. That's more disturbing, I thought. You're gonna be like, give it tentacles, you know, not just. Yeah, no, everything's a fish. Yeah. This is all very the HP Lovecraft who work on the dev team. 1:41:28 So Jerry James is always picking up those health kits. Yeah. He drinks that health potion that makes no sense to me, making me eat a fish, maybe a raw fish. And that's how he gets his health back. All right, I guess. I guess, Mr. Lovecraft, what are we going to do for a full health heal? 1:41:50 I don't know, eat more of a fish just. Just eat a bigger fish, that's what you're gonna do. Inject himself with a shark. What the fuck was that game called? I don't know if you. Some can sit here. Some can sit here. 1:42:05 Did you ever, Do you ever play that? No, really fucking good. It's one of those like AAA games in it. It's like it's sort of MIDI thing, but it's good. Like we don't have a lot of games like that. There's another Lovecraft one similar to Some Can See as well. I can't remember what it was called, but yeah, there's been a few. 1:42:21 I've been meaning to play them, but yeah, they are good. Then my mom's played Sunken City. She loved it. The Sinking City was close. I was so close. Very. Close, but yeah, really fucking good. It feels like it might have been rushed out a little bit, like maybe they've run out. Yeah, it's one of those mid. 1:42:37 Time. Awesome things it's. One of those mid developed teams, they don't have the biggest budget and they were, it's a reporter that I follow quite a lot of your he calls and was like it's jank, but it's good jank. Like it's jank where you are forgiven it more because they are a smaller team and they are a small budget, but it's like you can feel that there's passion and they've tried, you know, there's a few games like that. 1:42:57 It's like a thing is a very similar one as well. What's that game where you play Doctor but you're also a vampire? Oh shit fuck, I've really enjoyed that game as well. I. Think it's a similar sort of story. 1:43:12 It's like a small, they might be the same developer. I don't think it is, but it's a similar sort of like you use them to as an example, because it's like they're small. There's a bit of bugs in there that it's janky, but it works and you can feel the love and the passion. And it's a small team and it's a small budget and they're doing the best what they can. 1:43:29 They're not going to sell millions or whatnot. And he was making a point that say, oh, but yeah, people can't forgive. People should be able to forgive Bethesda because they're a big game. The junkets are, yeah, they're a team of fucking hundreds now. And they've got like, Microsoft money. 1:43:45 And there's no excuse for doing a piece of shit. So this game be better, you know, put more love and passion into it. Don't make start making the same fucking show. The game's called Vampire, by the way. Oh, that was easy. 1:44:00 Yeah, but spelled with AY. Yeah, VAMPYR. Vampire. Yeah. But yeah, very good. Yeah, that's the one that I want to play as well. But yeah, they're all those sort of like third person euro junk. 1:44:16 You've had choices really matter in that game as well like you can. I do love a very difficult I can cut off sections to yourself if you'd fuck something. Up. Yeah, I do love a good choices matter because I'm like, what do I do? Yeah, really good. I. Think I'll just it choices don't matter as much if you decide you want to be a Dick head, but when you try and play morally, I think choices matter more. 1:44:38 Yeah, I forgot, I don't give a fucking shit. I think you're just ruining the enjoyment for yourself. Yeah, I'd love to play like the original Vampire Masquerade, because I heard like very good things about that. Yeah. I know they're doing a sequel but again I'm like that sequel has been in development for fucking ages and I know they've released games since then which aren't the big RPG thing but they have done vampire masquerade spin offs. 1:45:02 I might just do the main game because from what I've seen of the original it looks really good. It's like a classic Fallout RPG star game. But. Vampires. Cool, I play that. Yeah, there's like different types of vampire that you can. 1:45:19 Love to play vampire masquerade but. Choose to be It's one of the main problems with it is how boogie it is because it's it was never really finished. Yeah, people love it. People do love it, and there's a dedicated amount of people that I've written code to try and fix the game themselves. 1:45:37 I'm just not smart enough to try and play it on a fucking laptop or PC and that's not how I like playing. It's not comfortable. I'm playing a game hunched over, not that I even have a laptop, but yeah. Anything else you want to chat? I don't know. 1:45:53 That was the that was the klaxon. Time's up. The cube. Klaxon. Oh, no, no, the albatrosses are coming. We have to find the hiding space. That's one of the downsides. 1:46:10 That's one of the downsides of the cube. When we record too long, the albatross and you might be we. Only have a limited amount of time before the albatross and. I know, I know you're picturing. I know you're picturing an albatross, but it's not. 1:46:29 It's something else also. Way worse. You can't believe what this albatross looks. Like it's indescribable and look, I can see it coming now. Over the Horace. I still couldn't tell you what it. It's got wings. 1:46:48 About two days ago you said it didn't have wings. No, I said it doesn't look like an albatross. It's not what you imagine. It's wings, It's wingspan. And you wouldn't believe this listeners, because why would you? But it's wingspan? Is that over 19 football fields? 1:47:04 Oh my God, that's just it's left wing shit. Better wrap up warm because it's getting nickier. Oh no, the giant horrifying albatross is coming to Tucker's in. 1:47:27 Get tucked and fucked. Jesus. Christ, that sounds like a drag queen thing. Actually being tucked into bed and then by having sex just everything be like constraint and tight or no you're in bed. 1:47:44 No, she's in bed, you're lying down, you're on top of her. Then someone comes over and tucks you in tight. So you both restricted movement and then the challenges to procreate. What a sick Saw film that would be. Just. A version of the Jigsaw where he tries to make people conceive Childs in the most awkward of situations and areas. 1:48:07 A You stood over there and you stood over there make a baby and if you can't, you die. Imagine the first Saw film where they were chained up on the other side of the fucking bathroom. 1:48:24 And the whole goal of that film was to like, conceive a child. And he had to sew his fault after like, you know, so we could have. Sex with him? Fucking hell. It's consenting sex, by the way, no one's getting, you know, abused. They they are lovers who are trying for a. Child. 1:48:40 Oh, OK. It's not like 2 random strangers. I mean even if it was can't cancel me, I'm in a queue. The albatross might be able to do that though. Yeah, but we can't describe what the albatross can do. 1:48:58 It's indescribable. Just know that I'm regularly driven mad to the point of madness over this fucking albatross. So yeah, I've been like. Episode 4 was a tired 1 sleepy. 1:49:14 Towards sleepy. Sleepy towards the end. I don't think they're going to listen to us. Hey, you want to talk about something? Yeah, why not? The words of the slopping out of our merits and it's been a. Long day. Sounds it's been a long. 1:49:31 Time arbitrary anyway, doesn't exist. Yeah, listen about this fucker. I've been Mike, get on your bike. And I've been Jack. Sack attack, I get your nuts out my face. 1:49:52 I've been Jack and lick my sack ohh my fuck.