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Episode seventeen:
And They All Went To Prison At The End

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They must have been there for less than 20 minutes. Yeah, insane.

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Speaker 2 I can only assume that yeah, they just didn't go.

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Speaker 1 Wait, I don't, I don't think you did.

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Speaker 2 Oh, he got chased out. Like he got chased away from his holiday.

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Speaker 1 Ski holiday, Some scheme resort in America? Oh, was it in Switzerland? Maybe? I don't know. I.

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0:19 Speaker 2 Think he was in America. I can't remember where basically it was, but you got you got turfed out of there pretty quiet. 0:26 Speaker 1 What's that Simpsons clip when they land on a plane and there's a bunch of people just like rocking the plane on the outside? I can't remember it in context but I imagine it was like that. What was that clip? 0:40 Speaker 2 I can't remember who was on the plane. 0:42 Speaker 1 Or was it just a bit? 0:43 Speaker 2 Oh, no. And I'll tell you what it was. It was. I can't remember the character's name, but is he a guy who was going around the country selling mono rails? 0:52 Speaker 1 Oh, right. Oh yeah. 0:55 Speaker 2 And he's like. 0:56 Speaker 1 Why Langdon? 0:58 Speaker 2 Yeah, Why Langdon? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was the pilot came before via intercom saying like, oh, I've got a probably the fuselage or something like that. I'm going to take going to take a quick, we're going to take a quick stop in our new Haverbrook before we carry on. 1:15 And he's like new Haverbrook. I know that. 1:20 Speaker 1 I know that. Still start rocking the plane. Yeah, yeah. I've been everywhere from Ogden, new Haverbrook and some other players, and by gum it put them on the map. I think that's it's either from Season 2 or Season 3, but that's when Simmons started to get like that was its peak when it started off good because Season 1's good as its moments. 1:40 Same with Season 2. But there's always a bit of like, I could skip this one. I don't really care about. Yeah. The tell tale heart or Bart stealing Jebardi? Springfield's head or boring. 1:53 Speaker 2 But going to earth once? 1:54 Speaker 1 Yeah. 1:55 Speaker 2 Foreign exchange students. 1:57 Speaker 1 Learning the language without learning the language, it's just bullshit. You just, you spent what, 2 weeks there? Enough time though. Stomping grapes and then all of a sudden he accidentally spoke fluent French. Nah. 2:10 Speaker 2 It all works in the confines of the episode. It was never addressed ever again. 2:14 Speaker 1 I don't really care about Oh no, we're going to have to put the dog down. I'll sell him because these are poorly trained dog, You know when they go start dog school. Oh yeah, I think I don't like that for the same episode. I don't like the episode where Bike speaks French because there's a shot where Bart's just mumbling gibberish and then then it actually turns out to be French. 2:34 And then the end of the dog episode, it's the dog here in gibberish and then he goes lay down set. Oh my God he understood me I think Cos that's that helper in that episode. I'm Bart in the French episode. Go on the exact same journey just ends with them just knowing language. 2:53 Speaker 2 It's the exact same episode, just from a different perspective. 2:56 Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe I don't like episodes where people learn a language. 3:01 Speaker 2 That's what your main problem with it. 3:03 Speaker 1 Yeah. 3:03 Speaker 2 I hate learning customs and fucking. 3:08 Speaker 1 Whether it's a dog learning manners or Bart learning French, I'm not about to deal. 3:13 Speaker 2 With learning, I guess no learning. 3:15 Speaker 1 I think out of all The Simpsons Travel the World episodes, I think some, I always say one of the latest seasons, but latest seasons from, you know, when it was good, this might have been still 90s or early 2000s, but to me, 2002 is one of the latest seasons. 3:31 Anything past like 2006, I'm like, oh, I don't know. But obviously classics when they go to Australia, just because it has so many good lines. I've got to take this all the way to the Prime Minister. Hey, Mr. Prime Minister Andy, I mean, I'm sure it's not a good luck for Australia. 3:53 I'm sure it's very culturally inaccurate, but. 3:56 Speaker 2 No, I'm pretty sure that they have like a guy that meets at Justice wearing a massive shoot to kick people in their pants. Well, yeah, pretty sure that's right. 4:09 Speaker 1 The boat.


Transfer students 4:23 Anyway, welcome to the episode of Chapter in the Queue that I am Jack. 4:27 Speaker 1 I'm not him. One of these days I'm going to slip up and say I'm also Jack, but I'm not. If you start with those, this one, you know I am by now. And if this is the first episode you've tuned into, because whatever we've called, it's caught your eye, but Q, you won't learn my name. 4:43 It's Mike. I'm sorry, don't know. It's Mike. 4:48 Speaker 2 What if? 4:49 Speaker 1 I'm the aggressive one. New listener. 4:51 Speaker 2 Likes the aggressive one that's against learning and. 4:56 Speaker 1 Just languages. Just language, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can't really say else about that that might make me sound horribly racist. 5:07 Speaker 2 Like. 5:07 Speaker 1 I don't know. I'm not. I just, I don't like Simpsons episodes where Dog learns manners and Bart learns French without trying. It's the fact that they didn't try what irks me so much. I'm not happy about it. 5:18 Speaker 2 What could they have done though? They've only got like a 20 minutes. 5:21 Speaker 1 Write a different episode. That's what they could have done. Write an episode where Bart doesn't get stuck in a foreign country to learn a new language. Why was he in France in the first place? 5:30 Speaker 2 The foreign exchange program the Sparrow came to live with The Simpsons. The Sparrow. Yeah, that. 5:36 Speaker 1 Is a Russian guy yeah, yeah. So why did he go to France I. 5:40 Speaker 2 Don't know they'll like Voltaire or something, I don't. 5:42 Speaker 1 Know was there a mistake or something like should The Simpsons have not got a French boy I should have bought? Should BAT have gone to Russia? 5:48 Speaker 2 None of those things that you'd concerned about is. It's the tree, I think that they entered into it and any other school in any other country who's also entered into this one, right? Just gets played. 5:59 Speaker 1 I thought it was like a straight swap because when we did, funny. 6:02 Speaker 2 I think that's usually what it is. 6:03 Speaker 1 There's usually when we did foreign exchange in school, a French person to come over my mom and I go all over that French person's mom or vice versa. No, that not vice versa. That's exactly what it is. 6:15 Speaker 2 I live with my mom and he lives in this. 6:20 Speaker 1 That's the kind of foreign exchange I like. I stay here and they stay there. 6:24 Speaker 2 Like I said, Max the aggressive one. 6:31 Speaker 1 I'm about we do a foreign exchange where we do the opposite and I continue to live my life and learn about my culture. And you live your life and learn about your culture. You stay there in smelly France. 6:47 No, it was, it was Germany when I was at school, but I never, I never went to Germany. I never did it. I wasn't one. I think I was allowed to go through it. I just think my mum didn't want to. I think my mum couldn't go be bothered with the rigmarole, set me up a passport or anything. I can't be fucked. 7:04 But Mum, I'd like to go to Germany. No. So I remember when all this shit, all the German students came over, there was like about 10 of us like, and we got lumped in with the German people. We were meant to learn something from them. They were meant to learn something from us. I ended up getting off with one of them. 7:19 Was my first kiss. 7:21 Speaker 2 What was his name? 7:22 Speaker 1 Her name was Yvonne. 7:25 Speaker 2 Yvonne. 7:26 Speaker 1 Yvonne. Oh, and she was the bomb. It was my first kiss, man. International man. I just I just won't work. 7:38 Speaker 2 I will not learn. 7:40 Speaker 1 I will not learn your language now I know enough German. Forget me. Bye. Hello, Gustauben. Alvida's in. They're all the phrases that I don't know. 7:53 Speaker 2 And you managed to woo this? 7:55 Speaker 1 Well, I could better speak English and she could speak pretty good English. So, you know, perfect match made in heaven. I don't know. I must have like been at my peak in like year 10 in high school terms. I was late to the party, and I'm not Mackinac with ladies. 8:10 There was a bet going on that some of that Michael wouldn't lose his frigidity because that's what we called it back in the day, you know, frigid. If you've never made out with anyone, do you do that at your school? Frigid. You've never even kissed a girl. Yeah, I was old school me. I was like. 8:25 But girls are still icky, right boys? 8:30 Speaker 2 Shut up, nerd. 8:32 Speaker 1 Yeah, pretty much. Meanwhile, they were fingering chicks during Shark Tale. Because I'd come out this summer and I was like, I just wanted to watch big, big little Will Smith be a fish. But, you know, apparently no. Apparently ladies were cool when in high school. 8:48 And not the icky things that I've been led to believe. 8:51 Speaker 2 Those are the days, weren't there, Will Smith. 8:54 Speaker 1 Was a fish. 8:56 Speaker 2 Was a fish that wasn't a fucking weird bastard with a weird bastard family. 9:03 Speaker 1 No, just a weird fish with a weird fish body. Why did they make everyone in that film look like the voice actors playing them? 9:11 Speaker 2 I don't know though. I mean, that's usually what the shit that's that's usually what animators tend to do anyway. They have some aspect of the voice actor. 9:18 Speaker 1 Compared to Finding Nemo, those things, just you look at Nemo, you, you can't relate any actor to any of those characters well. 9:25 Speaker 2 Yeah, but what was that Will Smith one called? 9:28 Speaker 1 Shark Tale. 9:28 Speaker 2 Shark Tale Shark Tail's a bit more sort of cartoon, and it's a bit more anthropomorphic. 9:33 Speaker 1 Yeah, because like he uses. 9:35 Speaker 2 Nemo is just this is a fish. 9:37 Speaker 1 Yeah, shark tail he uses is like, hey, do you know what Finns look like? Parachute pants? Let's have, let's have Will fish. Let's have, let's have Will Smith fish. Do MC Hammers dance underwater? Oh, yeah, because we I'm, I'm the one who's noticed that his Finns look like pants. 9:56 Give that man a raise. What came out first? 10:00 Speaker 2 I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure. 10:03 Speaker 1 That's like a real ants pug life situation. I know ants came out first, but the only reason it got made is because someone, well, someone who used to work for Pixar, Disney when they split off and form DreamWorks because DreamWorks was formed as a runaway from like a people, bunch of people who were pissed off at like Disney and whatnot. 10:22 And like are they were going, which is why the film Shrek ended up being made because Shrek eventually was just a big fuck you Disney. That's what what it was about. But they tried to get the run up on ants. So they heard like insurance and outs that Disney were going to do after Toy Story, after they did Toy Story with Pixar, they heard the next big thing was going to be about ants and stuff. 10:45 So DreamWorks, as one of their first major CGI things, they tried to get the foot in the dorm and they rushed out hands essentially. It was a rush job, cobbled together a script and whatnot, and they tried to get it out before Pixar's took Bug's life. 11:04 So a little bit of mean for the fact, a little bit of factoids, which you think is interesting because it's like they do the same thing now with, I don't know, Asylum films, You know, those cheap straight to DVD knockoffs like Trans morphers and shit. 11:21 They'll essentially have a full film ready to go from watching a shitty trailer. No, not shitty trailer. They'll watch a trailer on YouTube or something, or they'll hear rumblings of the next big blockbuster coming out, and they'll just try and cobble together a script and a film and get out of there like that. 11:37 Yeah. Which is insane. I don't know. He was head of Disney at the time. It was. It might have been Mike Eisner, Michael Eisner. I'm not 100% sure. But Lord Farquaad was a direct parody of whoever was running the show at Disney at the time. And the name is a spin on Farquaad sounding a lot like fuck Wad. 11:55 Yeah. Yeah. So that's where that's come from. I think I've mentioned that before on this show. 12:00 Speaker 2 Yeah, it sounds a bit of like. 12:01 Speaker 1 So yeah, there's the animation section of the podcast. Well, we're talking about languages and shit and necked off with some German bird. And then we started talking about ants. 12:15 Speaker 2 Yeah, it was something like that. Wouldn't. 12:17 Speaker 1 It yeah. Necked off with a German Ant, yeah. 12:20 Speaker 2 With an Ant from Germany. Which is not to say that she was related. She wasn't you, Ant. 12:26 Speaker 1 No, she wasn't my aunt. She was an Ant. 12:29 Speaker 2 But she was an insect. 12:30 Speaker 1 Yvonne, if you're listening. 12:32 Speaker 2 Yvonne, you're the bomb. 12:34 Speaker 1 Hit me up. 12:39 Speaker 2 Yvonne, if you're the bomb, I want you to meet my mom. 12:42 Speaker 1 Find me on my socials, mic versus time, you'll you'll find me on there. Also, if you're not Yvonne and you are just a lady, do the same. Hit me up. 12:56 Speaker 2 If you have an Ant. 12:57 Speaker 1 Not related. 13:00 Speaker 2 But if you have an insect. 13:01 Speaker 1 I imagine I won't get a take a foot type on a fucking keyboard. You need about 4-5 of them. Just foot press a key. I like how I was going to say 4 but I was like no that's ridiculous. Probably more than five to be firm. 13:13 Speaker 2 And some big families love, surely? 13:15 Speaker 1 How many ants do you reckon it a take foot press down a key on a keyboard like one letter? 13:19 Speaker 2 A lot. A lot of them. She's. 13:21 Speaker 1 Going to get a colony just for type high. You know what, just use the phone. Do you reckon that it'll respond to them? They'll need a keyboard. If an Ant walks across your phone screen, it's not going to connect, is it? 13:32 Speaker 2 As if they've got good Wi-Fi, Sure. 13:35 Speaker 1 Sure, they've got good Wi-fi's and husbands, like you said, they're big families. Oh my God, we like to have a laugh. We like to have a laugh in the cube.

Seinfeld 13:52 What have you been getting into? 13:54 Debating Seinfeld's 'Over-Ended' Prison Series Finale Well, I finished finished Seinfeld. 13:57 Speaker 1 You did. 13:58 Speaker 2 Yeah, decent. 13:59 Speaker 1 When you say you didn't expect it to end over ended, what do they all just fucking play Russian roulette and shoot themselves? 14:06 Speaker 2 No, they all got sent to prison. 14:08 Speaker 1 That was over. Ended. Yeah. What? They go to prison for sex trafficking. Felt I wasn't intentional, but in my head the way I said sex trafficking, trafficking was in the style of Jerry Seinfeld. 14:26 Speaker 2 It's like this can't remember where where they were going. They were they were on a plane to somewhere. They had to stop off in this place coming what the city was called. They stopped off. I'm going to catch another flight to get to where they needed to be right. And it was like the main fall. The main fall was all going to this place, the other a meeting with the the higher ups from NBC which was like a recurving storyline for like the fall season. 14:53 Speaker 1 NBC produced the show as well. 14:55 Speaker 2 Yeah, well, season 4 was. It was a little bit matter in the. 15:00 Speaker 1 Were they making Seinfeld in season 4? Right. In the show Seinfeld, they were making the sitcom Seinfeld. 15:06 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, all the roll the pile of the. 15:09 Speaker 1 I want the callbacks to like Season 1 in the pilot a little bit. Yeah. Well, in Season 4 when they were making the pilot, those callbacks to the actual pilot a bit. 15:18 Speaker 2 Yeah. 15:20 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I was exactly what I feared. Exactly what I feared. Like, oh. 15:26 Speaker 2 God, I knew this had happened. 15:29 Speaker 1 I don't want to watch it. It's just Jerry Seinfeld sucking his own Dick. I don't give a shit. I don't like him as a comic. Yeah, but it's about other people. Yeah, but it's about aim going. Look how good I am. Look at me doing stand up. But everyone else is playing the character. No one playing myself. 15:45 Look at me be doing stand up. Hey, do you know my show's got in a show? Fuck you on about Jerry. 15:51 Speaker 2 Jerry is the name of the show. 15:53 Speaker 1 Dick, I hate that. I hate it's. 16:00 Speaker 2 Anyway, the show. 16:01 Speaker 1 Yeah, you're lying. I'm. 16:02 Speaker 2 Not no. 16:05 Speaker 1 No, so the show that we're currently watching Seinfeld and then the show that their mates called Jerry. Shit name, just call it Seinfeld. Oh no, we hang on, it's time. Because that's the name of the show that the actual audience are watching and they might get confused. 16:21 Would you have got confused if they called the show that they were making Seinfeld? No, you're fucking wouldn't. You're a smart fella. Anyway, which show am I watching? Am I watched in Seinfeld? Am I watching the make Seinfeld? 16:37 Is this a behind the scenes episode anyway? 16:42 Speaker 2 Anywhere and you'd like this anyway at the end of the at the end of Season 4. 16:52 Speaker 1 How many seasons is the whole thing? 16:54 Speaker 2 Pretty sure it's season 49. 16:56 Speaker 1 Oh fuck. 16:57 Speaker 2 Pretty surely season 5 might be season 5. I watched them all quite quick. They've sort. 17:03 Speaker 1 Of blew out into one that makes me think Friends only went for 10 seasons just to like suck it to Seinfeld because I remember for the longest time before Always Sunny came along Friends was like one of the longest running sitcoms and not only ran for 10 seasons. That makes me think because I know Seinfeld was as popular as Friends before Friends. 17:19 They always say it's like the prototype to Friends. As in the basis of just people hanging out I guess. Makes me think they only did ten seasons just to go where the longest running set come now and that's. 17:29 Speaker 2 It maybe maybe. 17:30 Speaker 1 Probably. 17:31 Speaker 2 But yeah, at the end of the season, Jamie doesn't get picked up. 17:35 Speaker 1 The show or the character? 17:37 Speaker 2 The show. 17:39 Speaker 1 Right. Good, because it's shit you don't. 17:41 Speaker 2 Know you've not seen. 17:42 Speaker 1 It I don't need to Mr. self sucking Dick show right? Go on. 17:48 Speaker 2 It's, like I said, nicely angry one. 17:50 Speaker 1 For this week. 17:54 Speaker 2 Usually it's me that's getting angry 'cause do we? Yeah, I know. Anyway. 17:59 Speaker 1 I had a couple of cocktails before we started, maybe I did. It is a mean drunk. I'm like the Grinch and you know how Livermore he is. Absolutely not. 18:08 Speaker 2 So at the end of Season 9, I was like the last episode. Yeah, all episodes. It's a. It's a two-part. 18:15 Speaker 1 Usually it's on a season finale. I know. 18:18 Speaker 2 The new head. 18:19 Speaker 1 Of NBC. 18:21 Speaker 2 It says, you know, I want to give Jerry another try. One of you meet us in LA maybe. I can't. Can't agree with the fucking going for it I assume. 18:30 Speaker 1 NBC studios are in New York, so isn't the series set in New York? Yeah. I hope you're picking up. It's so loose. I hope you're picking up these horrible shrugs that I'm doing. Listeners, can you hear this? 18:44 Speaker 2 It looks like you've got no bones. 18:48 Speaker 1 For for the one listeners like listening, they're just going to think, is he melted with anger? Is he a puddle of anger turn into a puddle of frustration. You have a heating on in here. 19:01 Speaker 2 Yeah. 19:02 Speaker 1 Oh my God. 19:03 Speaker 2 You're a bit warm in. 19:04 Speaker 1 It I know I have not had the heating on like since. I was going to say since April but we're not in April yet. February. I've not had the heating on since February, although it has been a bit nippy lately. 19:12 Speaker 2 Yeah. 19:14 Speaker 1 I was, I was in my flat. I was in my flat before in my thickest hoodie with a, with a wool hat on while I was playing games. And I was thinking, I'm not playing, you know, it's March football, absolutely wrapped up while playing with fingerless gloves on, big thick hoodie and a hat, big wool hat, a wool hat, a beanie. 19:35 But yeah, cosy. Nice. 19:39 Speaker 2 So they get this, Yeah, They get given a little chance. They're supposed to be meeting this guy for a meeting. So the character Jerry, not the show, the character Jerry says hey. 19:50 Speaker 1 What's the deal with Airplane? Deal it. 19:53 Speaker 2 Says, Hey, Joe wanna I mean, he's he's inviting the pilot with George, right, right. So then to go in anyway. So he's like, hey, Ellen and. George, Costanza, Elaine and fucking Kramer. 20:12 Right? Do you want to come with us? Like, yeah, let's go. So they go. We stop off in a place, they watch this guy being mobbed. They don't help him. 20:22 Speaker 1 Real Peter Parker and Spider Man 2 situation don't exactly have his powers anymore. 20:28 Speaker 2 And then they go about the business, right? But then they get picked up by the police because there's like. 20:32 Speaker 1 Because they didn't help someone being. 20:35 Speaker 2 Yeah, there's like a local law that's like, if you are within your power to help someone out, then you should. 20:42 Speaker 1 Oh, so I have to put myself in danger to help someone? 20:44 Speaker 2 That cannot be a local law in the cube. About that, you're all right. No, Mr. Selfish. 20:52 Speaker 1 If I think I can actually help someone, I'll get involved in a tussle. I'm I'm fine. I'm always good. I'm always good to throw hands. Oh my God. I've been doing a lot of like boxing training. So and they just do, you know, like Joey, I imagine, right. 21:09 A lot of people feel this, you know, right. 21:11 Speaker 2 Don't want to, don't want to say too much about it, but I've been really been really working my traps and my glutes and I don't want to turn my own arm ball. I could, I could. Don't check the word I. 21:24 Speaker 1 Don't know, I don't know if I could right. I've been doing a lot of boxing training. But do you know, like you go to a gun range, are you imagine you're there just to shoot a gun or practice shooting a gun or whatever you like. I really reckon I could hit a move in person, you know, if I'm that good. 21:42 I just want to try it. 21:43 Speaker 2 My arms like a cotton bike. 21:49 Speaker 1 Honestly, I don't know if I, I don't know if I could throw. I don't. 21:53 Speaker 2 I have to check these in at customs if I go anywhere. 21:56 Speaker 1 Why holding your balls? 22:00 Speaker 2 The date you the. 22:01 Speaker 1 Loaded weapons. Oh, combo. It's I don't know if I could throw a good punch, but, you know, never put into practice. But if I see someone who thinks deserves it, yeah, they'll meet Tom O'Leary and Joe Jackson. 22:18 She's what I call my test. I'll leave it up to the listener, decide which one is the left one and which one is the right one when you meet them at our live show. Oh my God. 22:33 Speaker 2 So that's like the end of Part 1. 22:37 Speaker 1 Right. So because they didn't intervene. 22:40 Speaker 2 Then getting arrested. Yeah, right. 22:42 Speaker 1 And then the mugger gets off Scott free. 22:44 Speaker 2 The show's not about the mugger. The show wasn't called mugger, is it? It's called Seinfeld. 22:48 Speaker 1 Imagine, imagine, right? You walk past someone who's getting like the shit beat out of them. They're getting mugged or something. You think, I hope they're all right, but I really can't do anything about it. Then you get arrested and then that mug is like it gets off Scott free. You'd be human. You didn't mug anybody. 23:04 You might not have stopped them if they had a knife or a gun. You're only going to put yourself in danger and then you end up getting That can't be a real thing. 23:10 Speaker 2 I don't know if it's a real thing or not. I didn't. I didn't do any research on it. 23:14 Speaker 1 Why would you? 23:15 Speaker 2 Well, for the purposes of the story. 23:16 Speaker 1 Yeah, in that universe that that is the law. 23:19 Speaker 2 Let it Yeah, yeah. Part 2 of the episode was like the court case to court hearing and they had. 23:26 Speaker 1 So the season finale was a court case. 23:28 Speaker 2 Yeah. 23:29 Speaker 1 Fun. What a fun sake of. 23:33 Speaker 2 And they had characters from that that came back from other seasons to like sort of testify about what kind of people they are and all that sort of stuff. It was a decent last episode to be. 23:43 Speaker 1 Honest, do you think it would have been more interesting if they did a season after it like a set in prison? That to me sounds interesting, like how these characters cope in the slammer so to speak, because they did that with My Name Is Oh, they did like half a season set in a prison and it just changed the whole dynamic of everything. 24:02 It was really good. They did a similar thing on Brooklyn 99, but he wasn't in prison for longer. He was only in prison for like 4 episodes or something. He was really good. I had like one of my favourite comedic characters and I can't remember his name but he's in a lot. He does a lot of character stuff. SNL guy, but he was the guy that at people's faces or he was just a cannibal. 24:18 You know, Jay Proto was living with a cannibal. It's the guy from I think you should leave her does banning Every time he pops up and everything, I'm like, it's that guy, he's cool. I don't know, I'm just banning put a feather on my head. I'm like banning. There was a there's a really good skit where it's something on SNL when some parents come to him or something is like something about the kid dying or some shit. 24:42 It's like, I don't know what I can do for him so I can do the robot just as a little robot for a little bit. Parents aren't amused by it and it's like, oh, nothing more I can do for you. 24:55 Speaker 2 I think that you would like Michelle Seinfeld more than you were allowing yourself to. 24:59 Speaker 1 I probably would. I generally probably would. I'm just like. 25:03 Speaker 2 Because it is really. No, it isn't to the degree of, but it's it's, it's like an early version of It's Always Sunny because. 25:11 Speaker 1 They are assholes. 25:12 Speaker 2 They are, they are, they are nice people. Do you know what I mean? 25:15 Speaker 1 It's that always puts me off. It's like why it works so well? Everyone always says it's just a show about nothing and that's why it works so well. Is it about nothing or is it about Jerry Seinfeld sucking his own Dick? But everyone says. 25:28 Speaker 2 All things though, because he he doesn't, he doesn't always present himself in like a good light. 25:32 Speaker 1 Because he's not a good person. 25:35 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, but your your argument about it being. 25:37 Speaker 1 You know what? That aeroplane food is serving you a good job. It's prepared adequately. What you complaining for? Would you rather not eat on the plane, Jerry? Yeah. It's not going to be like a Michelin star meal. You're on an aeroplane. What do you expect? 25:54 And I bet it's always in first class. And I bet it's like, well, better prepared though. Yeah, standard class get the microwave or meal and then first class get the Michelin style treatment. 26:07 Speaker 2 This is something else I was going to bring over here. Not not necessarily a human. Now you're. 26:12 Speaker 1 Going to do the masturbation challenge what they did in Seinfeld. Pretty bold back in the day, right? To do an episode like that. 26:19 Speaker 2 Everyone always seems to refer to Jerry Seinfeld with the airplane food bit. I have never seen him do it. I haven't. 26:30 Speaker 1 Well I'm sure he does it in B movie. 26:34 Speaker 2 I don't think he do I. 26:34 Speaker 1 Think I think they do a bit of it in B movie when, I don't know, maybe B movie is very weird. They have a Larry B David and it's just Larry, just Larry David, but he's AB. What a great fucking film. 26:51 Have you all right? You've never seen him do it. OK, fair enough. Have you ever locked it up? Jerry Seinfeld Airplane food. Have you ever locked it up? 27:01 Speaker 2 No, but I it's. 27:02 Speaker 1 OK. 27:02 Speaker 2 Right. 27:04 Speaker 1 Then OK, OK, OK. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Before you interject, before you interject one, have you ever locked up Jerry Seinfeld airplane food? No. How many Jerry Seinfeld stand ups have you seen? 27:14 Speaker 2 2. 27:15 Speaker 1 All right. OK, first. 27:18 Speaker 2 We got it. We got it in audience we gave. 27:20 Speaker 1 I thought you were going to say none. 27:22 Speaker 2 Oh my God. Well, like. 27:23 Speaker 1 He must have done it in one of them and then it must be like Peter Kay's garlic bread. 27:28 Speaker 2 No episode of the of the Seinfeld has he done it right And he does at least 2 minutes worth of like a. 27:35 Speaker 1 Star playing talk and he never mentions food he's always talking about. 27:39 Speaker 2 210 episodes. If you know that then that's like a 5 hour set. Like a 10 hour set or something in it. 27:46 Speaker 1 Yeah. 27:47 Speaker 2 If at no point he references what is apparently his most famous joke ever, do you know what I mean? But that like saying that he's, like taking one, one piece of like, like a line from any Bill Berg anything. 28:03 Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's the guy who said that actually condenses someone down to just one thing, which isn't what. 28:10 Speaker 1 It's not what they are, you know, but it must have come from somewhere. Like I've never seen his like stand up, but I've seen clips of his stand up. I've never seen a full special. 28:21 Speaker 2 I assume. 28:22 Speaker 1 I've seen clips and I've just. 28:23 Speaker 2 Been like his first ever special, his first ever thing that he did. 28:26 Speaker 1 I think it's because his sort of humour is always like, I'm going to present something in the real world and say, hey, what's up with that? You know? And that's the thing. And I don't know if someone was doing a parody of Jerry Seinfeld, I'm like, what's the deal with aeroplane food? 28:43 And then that parody became more famous because whoever was doing the the skit version of it, they're like, oh, yeah, that is something Jerry Seinfeld would say. No, we're making him say it. Hey, Jerry, do the bit. But the airplane food. 28:59 I don't know which shit Yeah, it is. I always hated like sort of like stand up comedy like that. Like I get I get comedy and I do find it amusing. I, I think I liked it more as a, as a teenager, like PK would do it a lot, but it was always, I'm going to point something out, which is an everyday occurrence and you're going to laugh at it. 29:25 Essentially. That's the bit like PK would say, there have been Dunkin biscuits and then the biscuit falls in your tea. Thunderous applause, laughter everywhere. Yes, that has happened to me. Just whittle that down to its bare fucking bones. 29:41 Open the door and it opens. You know what they do? They do do that. If you ever had a big shit that didn't flush. Yes, I have. You know, when you cut the umbilical cord bit spongy in it. Spongy enough. Oh, it'd be. 29:58 Yeah, I guess. I guess you're just saying things, which is just the, you know, the basis of all language. You are just saying things, but I feel like Jerry Seinfeld is very similar. 30:13 He just says stuff that I already know. You know when you open a book and you read words? 30:19 Speaker 2 Hello. But if you buy anything done, it's not funny. Shit, Yeah.

Adolescence 30:27 Speaker 1 Right. 30:28 Speaker 2 So anyway, I watched Seinfeld. Three Seinfeld. 30:30 Speaker 1 What have you started now? 30:32 Analyzing the Single-Shot Filming of the Series Adolescence I also watched all of Adolescence. Oh yeah, first episode, very good. Three episodes, right? 444 No, I'm not on board. 30:45 Speaker 1 Four, it's 4 hours of my life. 30:48 Speaker 2 Yeah, first episode, really good. 30:51 Speaker 1 I feel, I feel like one shot takes naturally make me feel exhausted without doing anything. I feel like I there's no breath. That's why a lot of times there's cuts and edits. It's to give the audience A breather. You know, like sometimes you'll do a long take in a film or on ATV show or something. 31:09 You won't realize it, but you'll feel pretty out of breath afterwards. Like because you've not had a time to breathe. Carry on anywhere with you. Sorry, episode 1 was good. Does it dip in quality in any one of them all? 31:22 Speaker 2 I didn't, I didn't like, I didn't like Episode 2 as much. 31:25 Speaker 1 Well, I didn't like her. We stabbed and killed that girl. Didn't find it amusing, no. 31:29 Speaker 2 That was in Episode 1. That's why it was good. 31:32 Speaker 1 You know when you stab a girl and you like her, we can all relate to that, right? 31:39 Speaker 2 Oh my God. Oh, my God. All right, there was. Yeah. So I thought episode 1 was very good. I started getting a bit interior. Yeah. With Stephen Graham, He. 31:52 Speaker 1 He directed it as. 31:53 Speaker 2 Well, yeah, yeah, directed it. Very good actor. I was a bit. Oh my Lord. 31:59 Speaker 1 It must be masterful to piece together something like they should not just do the show on the concept of it, which is hard hitting as it is anyway. And you got you get your actors on board and you find the right child actors who are good for the parts and they're actually selling it. You they're not an annoying shit, you know what I mean? 32:15 And then on top of that, you've got your show, you've got your script, you've got everything written. And then to block it out you go, we're going to do it all in one go insane. You've got to be everyone's got to be on top form. I don't know if they'd pull something like that off. 32:28 Speaker 2 There was a few instances that I can remember because I was quite engrossed in it and I am a bit of a if I ever hear that it's something older in one shot 11 take naturally I'm like looking for stuff anyway. Yeah, but I was. 32:42 Speaker 1 Did it take you out of the show at any point like in episode 2 with those low moments? I guess we are going, were these edits, were these cuts? He he swears down? What's the name of the director again? 32:56 Speaker 2 Stephen Graham. 32:56 Speaker 1 Stephen Graham, he swears down. It's all done in one take. 33:00 Speaker 2 There's a few moments. 33:01 Speaker 1 Which you couldn't do, which you couldn't do on film, but I think you can do it digitally. 33:04 Speaker 2 That that looks like it could be masking. 33:08 Speaker 1 Right. So essentially 1 camera doing what? Because you can't cut to any of the camera, right? It is 1 camera right? 33:15 Speaker 2 Yeah. 33:15 Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Why would there be more than one camera if it's one take? Unless you want to do multiple angles, but you couldn't cut to any of those other angles. So I don't know you'd go about doing it. So 1 camera and I assume because of some of the shots I've heard it's on a drone because of some of the shots that they did like with it's spinning through things or flying through windows and share, Yeah, I suppose. 33:37 Speaker 2 It doesn't make sense if it if it was if it was a drone come. 33:42 Speaker 1 So apparently they used the drone for I've heard that these are drone for some shots, which is what I've heard. But if you say you use a drone for some shots, you had to use a drone for the whole entire thing. 33:54 Speaker 2 Unless someone's carrying the drone. 33:56 Speaker 1 At some point, so then it takes off. Yeah, maybe so, but imagine doing a not imagine trying because like I imagine the drone shots would be good for like transitioning from one place to the next place. So someone's holding a drone takes off to say. But if I'm doing an emotional scene and then the cameras like name it, I'm like, did you kill that girl? 34:16 No, I didn't. There's some video evidence of you killing that girl. Swear down I didn't do it. Meanwhile, the actors, don't worry, the bin might won't get it. It's fine. 34:31 Speaker 2 Stephen, I have to shave. 34:34 Speaker 1 This is a whisper scene. I'm supposed to cry. I don't know what. 34:40 Speaker 2 Oh my love, my fucking love. 34:42 Speaker 1 I would be I I think I'd be more interested. I would see if Netflix brought out a making of I think I'd see that more. I'd want to see that more than the actual show, But I I I'll add it to my I'll get it watched for next week. 34:58 I'll make sure I get it watched and I'll give you my review. So episode 1 was good, episode 2 not so good. Three and four and they all went to prison at. 35:07 Speaker 2 The end of episode 4. Yeah, they all went to prison. 35:09 Speaker 1 Can you even arrest a boy? For this is only on today's big issues. Can you, can you even arrest a boy? Can you arrest a boy? That's what we're asking today. We're taking calls, so we've got some on line one, line one. 35:30 We're asking the question, can you arrest a boy? 35:33 Speaker 2 Absolutely can arrest a boy all. 35:34 Speaker 1 Right, let's go to line 2. You arrest a boy. You. 35:39 Speaker 2 Can't arrest a boy I. 35:42 Speaker 1 Didn't think so. That's that's how can you arrest a boy segment. Thank you callers. 35:53 Speaker 2 It looks, seems, seems like we're all tied up. 35:56 Speaker 1 505050. 35:58 Speaker 2 50 equals split from those two. 36:01 Speaker 1 People can you can you can you arrest an underage? An underage shot, a pre what is he is like 10 or something. 36:08 Speaker 2 14. 36:09 Speaker 1 14 I mean. 36:12 Speaker 2 You can you kind of ask them. They don't go to like a normal prison. 36:16 Speaker 1 Juvie, right? 36:17 Speaker 2 They're like a detention centre type place. 36:21 Speaker 1 And is there an easy limit to there like if a 7 year old stabs someone to death, can they do anything or do they just, I'm sure there has been cases where that has happened and they've just, I don't know, put them in foster care or something. 36:32 Speaker 2 Something does happen to them, but I can't remember what it is. 36:35 Speaker 1 Yeah, they change as a person. 36:38 Speaker 2 They say what what happened to I can't remember the fucking two boys names, but then then the then they did that to. 36:46 Speaker 1 Then that did that crime. 36:48 Speaker 2 Then they did that crime to Jamie Bulger. 36:51 Speaker 1 All right, Yeah. 36:52 Speaker 2 So somewhat Thompson won it, and. 36:54 Speaker 1 Yeah, I can't remember the names, but somewhat something happened to him, but I don't know what because I remember everything was the country was up in arms about it for ages because one, naturally, and two, it's like, but they're not getting jail time because it's like, yeah, the kids, you can't, you know, So what do you do? 37:12 Speaker 2 We're taking. 37:16 Speaker 1 We're asking the general public, what do you do? I don't know. I'm a contractor for a large law. Nope, That's not what we're asking. What do you do? Scrap. It's done. Oh. 37:28 Speaker 2 My God yeah. Episode 1 very good. Episode 1's about him actually being arrested. Episode 2 Is the police talking to other kids in this school? 37:39 Speaker 1 That do you see the crime take place or is it just already happened as the series starts? 37:44 Speaker 2 It's already happened as the series start like a day after I think. Something like that. 37:49 Speaker 1 Save on blood squibs I guess, because you know first. 37:52 Speaker 2 Episode 3 is more about the kid and episode 4 is more about the family. So I didn't like episode 2 as much because it didn't have any of the actual core family in it. It didn't have any of the. 38:04 Speaker 1 Yeah. 38:05 Speaker 2 You know what I mean? Like it just. 38:06 Speaker 1 The kids were good actor though, right? 38:08 Speaker 2 It felt a bit fillily it. 38:10 Speaker 1 Felt her episode John episode 1 he stabs a girl episode 2 they were at the beach. They did a beach episode. In in a four episode. This is why I said to you, I sighed when it was 4 episodes long. 38:29 Should it have been 3 episodes long? 38:31 Speaker 2 No, because. 38:32 Speaker 1 Should I skip the filler arc? 38:35 Speaker 2 There is stuff that happens in episode 2, which is. 38:38 Speaker 1 Treating these 4 episodes like it's fucking Naruto. There is people who start a narrator journey and they are advised to skip entire fucking arcs because they are just. They'll do a filler 50 episodes. 38:52 Speaker 2 The last 50 episodes apart from the last. 38:54 Speaker 1 I said Naruto. I meant One Piece. 38:56 Speaker 2 Is it a filler just to? I don't know, I guess to create something. 39:01 Speaker 1 Really. About Naruto now? Yeah, I meant I, I meant I meant One Piece. 39:06 Speaker 2 Well, there's a book looking 2000 episodes. 39:09 Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I meant. Like, so there's just actual, like if you go online, there's actual watch list, which is like, you can skip these 25 episodes and you're still clued into everything. Me as a completionist, I don't think I could, you know, Yeah, but I know there's a YouTuber who's like making his way through. 39:25 I'm sure there's a few, but there's one that I thought he's making his way through it right now, but he will actively skip big acts because that's what the community tell him to do. And he's like, yeah, it's fine. I'm having a lovely time with it. No issues with it. Lovely time. Yeah, he says. It slaps. Do you ever tried to do One piece? 39:41 Speaker 2 I started it when it was first being heard over here. I got like 100 episodes in the. 39:47 Speaker 1 Yeah. 39:49 Speaker 2 I think so. 39:50 Speaker 1 Should be Yeah, monies work if you actually one piece here's. 39:54 Speaker 2 The thing? Yeah, our lessons. Good show, I thought. Impressive long shots. 40:01 Speaker 1 Do you believe like, because sometimes I know directors like, lie and they fluff it up a bit, you know, for the narrative, oh, this was all done this way. This was all done that we do believe that. Graham says it was all done in one shot every episode. Or do you think there was masking like? 40:16 Speaker 2 There there were some things that looked like it could be masking like say there's. 40:20 Speaker 1 Surely if someone fucked up a line or something when he dealing with high intense emotions as well, you know what I mean? 40:27 Speaker 2 I think it's the end of Episode 2 where the camera goes open, it goes up like 100 foot into the earth and I was like, what? 40:33 Speaker 1 How how to to to reset the scene? 40:36 Speaker 2 If it's a drone. 40:37 Speaker 1 It is a drone, yeah. 40:38 Speaker 2 Yeah, that answers that question. 40:39 Speaker 1 For also crane, before drones, cranes could get pretty big, you know? Yeah, yeah. 40:46 Speaker 2 Yeah, it goes up and then it comes back down to focus on someone. Yeah. If it's a drone or something, then yeah, that that explains that, yeah. But yeah, yeah, I would say that episode 3 and 4 definitely without a doubt, PE television is a single shot. 41:02 Speaker 1 Wow, because I remember talking. 41:03 Speaker 2 About one and two, there was a few things I thought that might that could be masking that could. 41:07 Speaker 1 Because I remember I was talking to you about you and you didn't seem interested, but you only seem to watch it when I told you it was like a one shot take show. 41:15 Speaker 2 Yeah, I know. 41:16 Speaker 1 Which is a shame because. 41:17 Speaker 2 I'm not, I'm not super interested. It's like every crime drama. 41:20 Speaker 1 Neither am I, but it's like people have to have a gimmick to try and sell something.

MCU 41:26 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch that. I think it's worth a watch. I started. I was gonna watch. 41:32 Speaker 1 Blue Eye Samurai. 41:34 Speaker 2 Eternals so that I could go in on. 41:35 Discussing Eternals and the Massive MCU Doomsday Casting Reveal The scavengers right on. The fact that Shank is so angry about it, it's not that bad. 41:41 Speaker 2 But I woke up a bit late when I was gonna watch it on that day and I thought if I put this on right now because it's a bit more than 2 1/2 hours, if I start watching it now, I might not finish it before I go to work from I was like, fuck it, I'll I'll. 41:56 Speaker 1 Because I've only seen, I've only seen it one time and that's the same time Shaggy's seen it. I watched it together in the cinema and he was seething off that cinema. He was like that's the the worst piece of shit I've ever seen in my life. The end 5 minutes was OK because I had a bit of action in it. 42:13 I would say that film came out about a time when people were getting really fed up about MCU films being like every other thing's a joke or you know, they always go and what that happened, you know, whatever they fucking get ripped apart for, for the humour every time they do a bit of humour, which I'm always fine with for the most part. 42:36 I think Fall Over and Thunder took it a bit too far. Yeah, Fall of Them took it way too far, and I didn't even mind that film, but it could have been a lot better. I like some of the concepts in Fall of Them. Thunder. I liked it when they go to that place with all the other gods from all the other pantheon, I guess. 42:53 You've got Aztec gods, you've got Roman gods, you've got gods from different fucking planets. They're all the great. I like that. I like some concepts of it. I like Zeus. I like Hercules. Cool, and I really like what they did with Gore. Gore shit was fucking phenomenal. 43:09 The film should have been more on that tone. Absolutely, because Gore's a pretty cool villain, but whatever. Eternals is better than fall Love and Thunder Ball and Thunder. I mean, Eternals isn't. It's not funny. There's funny moments. You've got a fucking thingy in it. 43:25 Kemal, whatever his name is, you know that guy You don't like cuss of his acting because he always sounds the same. Kum Kumji Nami I think. Yeah. Sorry, I can't pronounce his name off top of my head without reading it. 43:38 Speaker 2 Is it Nanjiani? 43:39 Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the guy. 43:41 Speaker 2 Yeah, listen, the thing my problem, my issue with it. 43:49 Speaker 1 Better not be the colour of his skin. 43:50 Speaker 2 Is it no, No, No, no, no, no, no. 43:53 Speaker 1 No, don't say that, John. No. 43:55 Speaker 2 No, no, no, no is that he has found a bit that has got a few lost ones. So he's like, ah, I'll use that exact tone for every piece of voice acting or acting in general that I ever do from now on. 44:08 Speaker 1 I find it so he has no range. I find if. 44:10 Speaker 2 He does have range, he doesn't utilize any of it. 44:12 Speaker 1 I find it similar to this kind of sound bad, but I find it very sick. 44:18 Speaker 2 Like. 44:19 Speaker 1 I find it very similar to Aziz Anzari because he has that, yeah, he has that tone and that range, but I still find him amusing. And I watched his Netflix show that he did. I didn't see the. Yeah. What? 44:31 Speaker 2 Was it? 44:32 Speaker 1 Called Master of non Master of non Yeah, really fucking good. Fucking great. I watched season 1, season 2. Apparently season 3 is not that good. I didn't watch that. I don't even think he's in it, but I watched season 1 and I think I watched season 2. That was really fucking good. He showed his acting chops in that, but that was a but again, a Jerry Seinfeld situation. 44:50 It was like he wasn't playing himself, but he was playing like a version of himself. And then obviously it was the whole systemic thing about like, oh, I went to an audition. I didn't get it today. Why did you not get it? I don't know. I didn't do the voice, you know? And I'm like, that's cool. Really like that show anyway. 45:07 But Eternals, it's not ha ha laugh jokes all the time. It's shot differently. It doesn't look, it's not got the same colour palette as a Marvel film. They actually like tried to do something different. They actually tried to, dare I say it made something that would look more representable as cinema, as Martin Scorsese would say. 45:27 But for the most part, I'd say it's more of a talkie than anything else. But I really like the lore of everything that they were setting up. Like, I like them talking about the Celestials. I like what they did about the Celestials. I liked how their take on the Eternals like because obviously the Eternals on the comics are different with the Eternals in this. 45:44 But every time they introduce a new set of superheroes in the MCU, you have to try to make it fit that world that they've created like because why won't the Eternals they're during this. Why won't the Eternals? The Eternals should have been here like they would dirt from the very start anyway. 45:59 And they kind of are on this, but they've like got some sort of like thing where they're not allowed to interfere with like any sort of Earth events, like they can't use Earth powers or anything like that. And obviously the end of Eternals ends with because you've seen the latest Captain America ends with one of the Celestials that was inside the planet popping out. 46:19 And for the longest time, everyone was angry that no films addressed that. I'm like, why would they though? Why? Why would Deadpool and Wolverine, which isn't set pretty much not on Earth, addressed that. Why would Doctor Strange address? I think Doctor Strange 3 came out after that. 46:34 Yeah, they did. But there might be like a passing line or something. But it's not like Doctor Strange isn't going to go. Oh, yeah, there's Tia, Matt. It's just popping out the ocean. I'm going to. I'm going to do that. Whatever. No, the government have taken over. It's fine. They're mining it for adamantium. Cool. 46:50 I didn't mind it. They dealt with super speed quite well. One of the characters as a speedster, that was cool because it's very easy just to like, slow down time and do that thing again. I didn't mind that they did Quicksilver. Quicksilver was fine in Age of Ultron. Travesty of that film. You should never have died. 47:06 Yeah, I would still love it if Quicksilver was in the MCU. That'd be great. But yeah, speaking in the MCU, they just announced all the fucking cast. Well, half of the cast, they're saying for Doomsday, Doomsday, yeah, people say MCU is dead, not watch the MCU for ages, whatever. 47:24 I don't know if you know how they do. You know how they announced the cast in for Avengers Doomsday? 47:33 Speaker 2 No, I've only seen what you sent. 47:37 Speaker 1 The cast list. So, you know, Shaggy said. He sent that post to us. I went, oh, Marvel, we're going to drop something big tomorrow. And they hiked it up. They did a live stream and the live stream was a, a camera. So it started off looking at the back of the director's chair. 47:52 And on that director's chair was Chris Hemsworth saying it's a casting announcement. They're doing a casting announcement for 4 1/2 hours. It was a very slow pan out to all that big catalyst that I'd sent you for 4 1/2 hours. Just a very slow reveal of like those 25 names. 48:11 You know honey, right? Me, I never dipped into it once. I just thought, oh, is that what they're doing? I'll, I'll check back on Twitter in about however long this takes to see all the cast lists or I'll check it tomorrow to see the forecast list. Whatever they want to do a big thing. It's like people were complaining that it was annoying and you didn't have to fucking watch 4 hours of chores being revealed. 48:31 No one had to watch it. But the fact is, you can claim that the MCU is dead and buried all you want, but over 5 million people tuned into a live stream of the back of chairs being revealed with names on them. 48:47 That's insane. Do you not think that's insane? The fact that that many people tuned in. 48:53 Speaker 2 Yeah. 48:53 Speaker 1 If those 5 million I think. 48:55 Speaker 2 It's insane that they decided to do that in the first place. 48:58 Speaker 1 Exactly. But they fucking did, you know what I mean? It probably got more buzz than them just going here's the 1st 25, they're going to do another one at some point soon, but here's the 1st 25. They might do something different. But yeah, here's the 1st 25 characters. 49:15 Basically it's everyone who's ever been in a Marvel films in Doomsday, and maybe the other half are going to be in Secret War. Secret War is going to be bigger. I don't think Secret War has to be bigger technically. But what is interesting, you've pretty much got a lot of OG X-Men in there. 49:30 Yeah, you know, from the Fox scenes. You got Patrick Stewart back, you've got Ian McCallum back, Nightcrawler, you've got Cyclops. But whatever. Cyclops. Lame. I think James Marsden will do an all right job of it. He he was all right and he's better. He's a better actor now. So also to see him in the he'll probably be in his like more 90s comic accurate suit because I think that's what MCU are doing anyway. 49:54 So it probably won't be that version of Cyclops because I have a version of Cyclops died. It'll be like a different version of Cyclops because, you know, multiverse and whatnot. But yeah, cool. I guess I'm not mad excited about, I'll be excited about it when I see a trailer, but they'd be interested to have a film with Avengers, the Fantastic Four and X-Men all in one film. 50:13 I'm here for that. I'll stay for that. You got, you got my money, you've always got my money. I'm a fucking shill at this point. I'll always be lost in the sauce.

Daredevil 50:22 Matt Murdock's Rage and the Brilliant Daredevil Bottleneck Episode Like I watch Daredevil every week. I don't need to, but I will. It's good, I like it. They're doing a really good thing at the moment where like they did a bottleneck episode, which is like filler essentially but set in one place. 50:39 But he was one of the best episodes of the season. It was basically Dirt Devil was going to a bank, Matt Murdoch. Matt Murdoch was going to a bank. He was trying to get some money for his firm or whatever. He was denied it as also peers were always denied money when they go to the bank. 50:54 Spiderman, Falcon, whatever. Meanwhile, a bank robbery takes place. Oh, no, bank robbery takes place. Matt, what's Matt Murdock going to do? He gets the blow right to the police. They're all outside and he's like, I best do some Daredevil shit and he does some Daredevil shit. 51:10 Beaten. It's really funny because right here we go. Here he goes down. He's right. I don't even think it's going to be tied to the larger plot. It's just its own thing. All season, Matt Murdock's been, he's like, I'm not going to be Daredevil anymore, but he's been fighting the urge to do that. 51:28 You know, he's like, spoilers, Foggy dies in the first episode, and he's trying to do right by Foggy. As in, Foggy was a good man. You know, I want to live by what Foggy did. Foggy didn't need to do what I did. He was, it was kind of his emotional barometer sort of thing. And it's like Foggy would do what's right and he'd put the right people away and he'd do it without putting on a mask and beating the shit out of people. 51:50 Every every now and again at the end of most episodes is always like the devil, so to speak, is coming out of him. You know, he has a rageable thing and beats the shit out of some shit that needs it in this year. He goes full day level by the end of this, doesn't wear the suit, but he takes one of the burglars masks, puts it on his face and kicks the shit out some people. 52:10 But turns out it's just a heist. They're only after like one safety deposit box. They're just getting a little jewel. That's it. It's just basic fucking shitty heist. Whatever. So at the end of the day, when everything works out fine, the police come in the the shits get arrested. 52:27 The main guy, like who was leading the heist, it was on Saint Patrick's Day and they were all Irish for some reason, because obviously the main guy who was running the heist would like change into some cop clothes. So he must have had it pre planned. And then he walked out the building. 52:42 But Matt Murdock, he recognized his breathing. He's like, that's that guy. I don't know. He's got heightened everything. He's like, he's getting away with it. But he swapped the jewel. He gave it to one of the people who we thought was like a hostage. 52:59 Matt Murdock clocked all of this, right? And he already sussed it and put the we find out at the end of the episode. He goes back, whoever he was getting the bank loan from had a bowl of sweets on the table, and he put the jewel in that bowl of sweets. We find out at the end of the episode, but then he chases this guy who's disguised as a cop, beats the fucking shit out of him for no information, for no reason, just to do it, I guess, because he didn't have the gem on him. 53:26 Absolutely. Matt Murdock knew this because he'd already swapped it out. He just chased him down and just beat him up. And there's a bit when, I don't know how to explain it, but there's a bit when he's he's leaning on a wall, he goes back to his wall and his legs aren't like that. 53:42 Daredevil Matt Murdock leaps in the air, and the screenshots of this, because it's like in free stream, leaps in the air, both of his legs out, crushing his knee backwards. His leg bends up against the way. 53:57 Like at this point the audience are watching it and we're thinking, Oh yeah, so we can get the gem back. We found out at the end of the episode. No, I already did that. There's so there's so many. There's I'll have to find a screenshot of it and show you. But it's so funny. 54:13 That's just a guy leaning against the wall with his like perfectly like sort of like a 45° angle and then just Matt Murdock in the air ready to like it's so silly. 54:29 I don't think Batman would even go that far. I mean, Batman did that. He'd do me for information, but he's going through some shit. He's whatever. Anyway, the episode following that, he thought like he was ringing the police for help someone out and he's like he hung up on the police and he said fuck it, he just put on the mask again. 54:47 And he's, he's Daredevil now. So there's like four more episodes left. So I think, and he's going to be full Daredevil for those 4 episodes and in season 2 of this season he'll be full suit. He's got his DDS on his suit just in the screenshots. Cool. 55:02 Really loving Daredevil right now. I'd say watch that next. But that's just like an ongoing thing anyway. You could watch that anytime you know you're in like a weird 90s phase or something. I am a. 55:12 Speaker 2 Little bit, but I have started something else.

Just real good Science Fiction 55:15 Exploring the Deep Sci-Fi Concepts of Pantheon and Severance I've nearly finished, actually. Oh, no, Come on. Yeah, I'm on. I'm on episode 16 of 16. I only stopped watching because you were coming. 55:26 Speaker 1 Don't let my ejaculation stop. Yeah. What was it? What is it? 55:32 Speaker 2 Pantheon. 55:33 Speaker 1 Oh, I've heard good things. I've heard. 55:35 Speaker 2 Really good man. It's one of the best things I've ever fucking watched. The nomination is fucking brilliant. 55:42 Speaker 1 No, Why is one of the best things you've ever watched? Because three shows that always pop up together. I've seen two of those shows. You always get Scavengers reign. Blue eyed samurai and Pantheon are always lumped together as like peak animation of that year when they came out. 56:01 The only one I'm not seeing is Pantheon but Blue samurai is great. Get it fucking watched and scavengers reign. Oh Scavengers reign has the best animation ever. Speaking of Scavengers Reign, the people who worked on that show worked on common side effects. 56:20 That's just been announced for season 2, so that's a good thing. At least they get a season 2 or something. I'd probably prefer a season 2 of Scavengers Reign but don't tell me much about Pantheon but I'm assuming it's about gods or AI or something. 56:35 Speaker 2 What I will say about it. 56:36 Speaker 1 Because I am definitely going to watch that some point soon as well. 56:40 Speaker 2 Because yeah, I'm not. I'm not going to give you any spoilers. It is. It's just fucking really good sci-fi. 56:47 Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm already on board. That's what I say about Scavengers Reign. It's fucking good sci-fi. It's good animation. I do love good sci-fi. 56:55 Speaker 2 Yeah, it is. It is really good. It's about fear, anger, hatred. It's like it's sort of base component. 57:03 Speaker 1 I have the emotions of love. 57:07 Speaker 2 Yeah, I I assume that it's gonna wrap it up quite nice in the last episode. 57:11 Speaker 1 Is it do you know if it's getting a season 2 or is it just a one and done thing? 57:15 Speaker 2 No, this is in a season 2. It's like. 57:17 Speaker 1 OHH two season 3. 57:19 Speaker 2 Episodes each. 57:20 Speaker 1 Alright, OK, cool. And do you think it's all just two seasons? Then it's done, done for good? 57:24 Speaker 2 I think so. I don't think that, well, I don't know yet anyway, because I've not seen the last. Yeah, but it doesn't like it feels like a closed story. 57:33 Speaker 1 Yeah, Speaking of brilliant TV, I've binge watched all two seasons of Severance Fork. What a show. Sweet for my sweet, sugar for my honey. Sorry, just stemming. 57:52 Anyway, Severance, such a fucking good show. I was there for the weird concept and I stayed for the weird cult shit about her. So I briefly mentioned it to you off her, but basically concept is to work at this company called Lumen. 58:09 You have to. Well, if you want to work on the severed floor anyway, you have to go through a procedure called Severance, where you cut yourself off from the real world. So you come you every time you walk into work. Imagine if every time you walk through the main doors of your work, you immediately forgot everything on the outside world. 58:29 As in, you forgot your name, your family, your loved ones, where you lived, anything. All you know is that you're at work, and it's what these people at work tell you. That is your reality, right? 58:45 They tell you do this, do that, you've got to do that, do that. All right, I guess it's a job. You know what jobs are, you know what things are you're not just like you still, you can still there's things that like get ingrained in you, like you can obviously still speak. You've got motor functions, you can do tasks. 59:01 You know, if you were an artist on the site outside, you could draw, you could still draw on the inside, you know what I mean? It's just things are ingrained in you. You can operate a computer, you can operate a computer, you can drive, you can still drive. But you know these things like if they ask you to ride a bike, you could ride a bike and then that person stays at work does does the workload. 59:23 And then as soon as they leave those doors, the anything that happened at work and everything that you were told at work completely leaves your head. You have no fucking idea about it. So from your perspective, all you have done is walk through the door and then walk out the door in in your outside world, that's all you've done. 59:44 So it's like you've not even been to work essentially. Is that something you'd go for not? 59:49 Speaker 2 Going to work. 59:51 Speaker 1 But but you are going to work. You just don't know. You've been to work. It doesn't feel like you've done any work. Essentially, all you all you've done is a person. 59:59 Speaker 2 Nothing new there is. 1:00:01 Speaker 1 There, all you've done as a person is walk up to a building, open the door and walked out the door. But like 9 out 12 hours have passed, but the person on the inside is creating it knows it's done for work and all hit all it knows the version of you that's a work is work. 1:00:18 So when that person clocks out at the end of the day, goes through the doors, as far as that person's concerned, all it's done is walk through those doors and walk back in and he's gone straight back into the grind for 12 hours a day or however long it is. And then that's all that person knows. 1:00:33 You don't know that, and he doesn't know anything about your outside world. And then you've got the moral weird things like, is it objectively right or cruel to have a part of your consciousness that constantly lives in that building? I think that's an interesting concept, but then again, it gets really fucking weird and it turns out like the way they like, they control their workers at work. 1:00:56 There's like this weird cult thing, like they've got this sacred text and stuff and that there's like these 9 or 4 things that are like a bad for the soul and stuff. And there's like weird cult stuff. And I'm like, are they just doing the cult stuff to control their workers? Because they're giving them this text and it's laid out like Bible texts as well, like religious text. 1:01:17 They don't, that's the only thing they've ever read, you know what I mean? So they take it as like, oh God, this is, this is some serious shit. You get some of them going. What, what's the outside world like? You know, is it, is it apocalyptic? What we doing? You know what it what, what are we actually doing here? 1:01:35 You know, is, is there anything? I would say season 1's a lot better than season 2. Season 1's more there's more of a mystery about it. Season 2's I'd say a lot darker, but the for now or the cliffhanger of season 1 is probably one of the best cliffhangers I've seen on TV ever. 1:01:52 Like apparently from season 1 to season 2 it was a three-year wait. I'd be fucking fuming if I'd wait three years after that cliffhanger and then I'd be fuming if I came back to watch season 2 episode 1 because it didn't immediately answer that cliffhanger straight away. I had to wait like 2 episodes and then they released this show weekly on Apple TV. 1:02:12 So that's why I'm glad I've got Apple TV for a week binged at all. But it was like a free trial thing so it's fine. No, I'll happily watch season 2. It's going in some weird fucking places. But for example, there's a character in season 2 and the running like experiments on her or something and she's severed in like multiple ways. 1:02:35 So like they're trying to test like really uncomfortable situations with this character. So when she's on her own, she's just whatever she comes to work and stuff like that. But there's like 9 different rooms that she's got to go in every day or every every couple of months or something. 1:02:50 She's got to go in these rooms. One of the rooms she's, and they suppose they're supposed to be things that make you feel anxiety and make you feel uncomfortable. So one of the rooms is just she's getting dentists shit, she's getting a teeth drilled, she's getting some a teeth check up or something. 1:03:08 One of the rooms, it's like a 1920 situation and she's writing 1000 thank you letters by hand, you know, long cursive. She's got her husband, what she thinks is a husband because that's what she's been told. And then by the end of the 1000 letters, her hands are like shaking. 1:03:25 You know, she's got blood on him because he's like writing. Thank you very much for this. Not her fryer because they didn't have that in the 50s, but you know, for whatever. Thank you very much for this non back lock, Hoover, whatever long thing. And the husband's like, you got to write, you got to write, but it's like I'm writing it. 1:03:41 And then then the husband's like Christmas only comes once a year and this chick's been down there for like 4 years or something. But to her, that severed person of her, that's all she knows. She's writing them. There's a version of her that's constantly getting a dentist thing. It's like you've got to only come to a dentist every six months. 1:03:58 It's like, but it's every day and it's not just every day. It's imagine going to the dentist, getting your teeth drilled and whatnot, leaving the door and going straight back into the dentist again for the same fucking procedure. And that's the sort of the questionable shit you're doing it. 1:04:13 And then what they're trying to do on the outside world, they're trying to this company, what I think anyway, they're trying to like give you a cure or something to stop you from feeling pain or anxiety or anything like, oh, the labours of childbirth sever that part of your brain that deals with childbirth. 1:04:35 You'll go to this childbirth and facility where you will become a different, you'd still be the same person. But when you walk into the operating room, I don't know what the fuck, I'm pregnant, I don't know what I'm doing. You give birth, then that version bonds with a child for a little bit, forgets about it, but then leaves, doesn't forget about it, bonds with it, whatever leaves that room immediately. 1:04:58 And then the person who was actually the the you that was actually going to give birth has literally just walked into the operating fair and walked out with a baby. No pain, no nothing. But there is a version of you that actually still lived it. And then essentially when you leave, that person dies or that part of you dies really. 1:05:16 And then there's a whole moral thing about it, like if you the severed personalities from the people on the outside world, sometimes they have very different personalities and they don't agree with each other because there is a way where they managed to get severed people to talk to their inside versions. 1:05:31 Essentially it's I would record a message to me outside the cube and say, hey, my, what are we doing? What are we doing? Why not get a message outside the cube? And Mike outside the cube would respond to that and go, oh, cool, I'm talking to you. And then he'd record a message back. And that's the way how you can talk to your severed personality. 1:05:49 So fucking cool. And then Ben Stiller directed all or most of them, which isn't insane because a lot of the episodes look fucking stunning. They look so fucking good. Oh yeah, Severance. Really good show. I know that's jumping on the bandwagon because everyone's fucking hyping up at the moment. It's really good. 1:06:04 As soon as the mother's done with Season 1, I'll end it. Yeah, cool. And then you'll probably go. You know what? I'll I'll, I'll get Apple for a week just to watch Season 2 probably. If you're that into it anyway, maybe. 1:06:18 Speaker 2 Maybe, yeah.

Halo Infinite 1:06:19 Speaker 1 Yeah, so on my gaming journey, I finished all the Halo, finished Halo Infinite. 1:06:25 Criticizing Halo Infinite's Linear End Game and Missed Opportunities God, what a slog. It was. OK. I just don't like it as much as like, I didn't like the fact that it was all set in one place. That bored me a little bit. Do you know most games, open world games, they'll give you a warning when you're going into like the point of no return? 1:06:42 Yeah. This doesn't basically you're just doing a normal open world mission. You got to light all these towers. They are at like the four corners of the map to be first. So it's like got to travel all the way over, travel over, travel over there, then go into the facility and then just like 6 missions left after that. 1:07:01 So it's like it's like not even halfway through the game. It's essentially the halfway point, but those last couple, last couple of missions, like last chunk of missions, they're all you have to do them straight after the other half. The game is like plotting out the section of the Halo ring and doing your little open world, clear this base, do this, kill these people. 1:07:24 And then the last half of the game is like the end game. You just locked him constantly and it's purely linear. You're stuck in these places. That's insane. I don't know, I didn't like that part of it. Also I I feel like with the way Halo Guardians ended and the way Halo Infinite picked up, there could be at least two or three games set in between those games. 1:07:47 Much better games as well. Like Cortana. I always thought Cortana was going to come back alive or she was still alive before this game started. Cortana was the big villain of like Halo Guardians. She ended up being the big bad. She started an area uprising. 1:08:02 She had these big Guardians. They were going to go around and police the Galaxy. Yeah, that's where it ended. Oh shit. We got to go stop Cortana where this game picks up. They've already stopped Cortana and all the guardians have already been like shut down and stuff. You do hear about it. 1:08:17 And like she blows up a full planet at one point with like 3 guardians dotted around. She blows up a planet she like wipes out. She wipes out Sydney off planet Earth, you know, she blows it up Sydney. Fuck you, Australian. And this is stuff you hear about like Cortana. 1:08:33 And then the game obviously starts where Cortana has died. She's done whatever this new AI is sort of like a clone of her. She's like still got echoes of the memory and shit like that. I'm like these what you're explaining to me. Some was like better games. 1:08:48 Speaker 2 Yeah, did they not want to let people fun or something? 1:08:52 Speaker 1 Apparently not. And then I thought I'd come up because because these Guardians are fucking huge, fucking massive things. They're like planet sized things essentially, which can destroy a planet. On this Halo ring that you're on, there is a crashed Guardian all the way off in the distance. 1:09:07 You can see it and it's like, oh, maybe I'll go there eventually, or maybe that's where the end of the game will take place. Because in Halo Guardians, there is a level where you're actually rappelling down the side of a guardian or it's flying or it's moving or something and you're like, it's pretty cool set piece like because it's massive and you're essentially running down the side of a fucking Evangelion robot. 1:09:28 You know, while it's doing shit and you're still fighting on it and it's cool as fuck. Anyway, there's a crash guardian off in the distance and you always see it. It's always like in your iframe if you look at it like far off. I'm like, oh cool, maybe. No, no explanation to why there's a crash guardian on the Halo. 1:09:43 Nobody knows why. I've looked it up and see if the law of it, people are just speculating and it's just like just there, isn't it just acknowledge that that game existed and now there's a crash guardian on this fucking Halo.

Wolfenstein 1:09:56 Speaker 2 Awful, awful. So what's next on the game? 1:10:01 Speaker 1 You'll like it. And I Oh my God, I know you've played this game and Shakes played it too. And I'm angry that you didn't hype it up enough. Like when I mentioned it, like, Oh yeah, I need for a player that you're going. Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's not just good, it's fucking brilliant. 1:10:13 Speaker 2 What game? 1:10:15 Praising Wolfenstein's Violent Gameplay and Alternate History Details Wolfenstein. Oh, good is Wolfenstein. It's really good. It's so fucking good. Stabbing and punching nuts is all day and it's like, do some of these stuff because it's quite violent. Snuck up on an asset, he was sleeping in bed, stabs him under the covers. 1:10:34 It's so cool. 1:10:35 Speaker 2 Mega violence. Yeah, it's so. 1:10:37 Speaker 1 Good. Yeah, Yeah, I've already been playing it. I was better than Halo. Any of the Halos much? 1:10:43 Speaker 2 Better than Halo? 1:10:44 Speaker 1 Any of them. 1:10:45 Speaker 2 Same people who made Doom in it and maybe. 1:10:47 Speaker 1 They, I don't know, same people who made Doom. Doom is is it 8? Yeah, it is. This is machine games, same people who did the new Indiana Jones game which shows also a lot of punching Nazis, but now this is way cooler that's. 1:11:00 Speaker 2 The same publisher in it so. 1:11:02 Speaker 1 Bethesda's the publisher Machine Games made Wolfenstein. 1:11:06 Speaker 2 I don't know if Bethesda was high on the Duma when make it as violent as you can. Yeah, I mean because you have ramped up. 1:11:14 Speaker 1 Also Blaskowitz. He fucks. Make sure you show that off. I might. There's not a cut scene that goes by where this guy's not weighing pipe when he gets out of that asylum. And then that nurse lady that's been looking after him for years is all like, you're tired. 1:11:33 Yeah, I could sleep. I'm like, what the fuck's going on? I did not expect that. And then there's another. So obviously they allot, they allot the little base in Berlin. And then did you plow in? OK? And everyone can hear him. 1:11:50 Yeah. Blaskowitz does not give a fuck. He's so cool. 1:11:54 Speaker 2 Just fight some forks. 1:11:56 Speaker 1 Some fucks and fucks and fights but no I I tend to go through it the admission I'm on. I think I'm plowing through that game wiki quick because I'm enjoying it. I'm on the I've got to capture a German U boat mission. Also it was a PS3 game. I know there was a PS4 version as well. 1:12:12 I know the PS4 version is going to look better than the PS3 version marginally because it was in that era. Yeah. Yeah, but it looks damn fucking good for when it for, for an old fucking game, really fucking good. I might break my rule and go straight into Wolfenstein too. The New Colossus. Yeah, they did. 1:12:28 Speaker 2 They did like a stealth only game. 1:12:31 Speaker 1 Yeah, they did, but I've looked. Maybe I won't because I want to continue the story anyway, but apparently it's not as good. But it's only like 6 or 4 hours, so I might. It's called the new blood or young. No, not young blood. That's the third game, which I probably won't play. It's not bad. The old old blood is called Old Blood Old. 1:12:48 Speaker 2 Blood, yeah, I didn't finish that one. I didn't finish New Colossus. I had to be honest with you because like. 1:12:53 Speaker 1 New Bloods, only a six hour game apparently because it was meant to be DLC but we just ended releasing as a stand alone. 1:12:59 Speaker 2 I think, I think we got a bit halfway through The New Colossus and I was like, this is fucking hard as shit, I'm gonna have to play something else for a bit and I just never went back to. 1:13:08 Speaker 1 It, you know, I I just didn't carry it. Admission. I don't know if you remember, I'm obviously Wolfenstein. The first one. The first one you know. 1:13:15 Speaker 2 Yeah. 1:13:16 Speaker 1 Yeah, Wolfenstein, The New Order or whatever it's called, It was obviously it's just before I've done the German U boat, but there's a bit where I mean like this underground train station and I've just like pressed this button and then three giant robot mech shits come out of fucking nowhere. 1:13:32 There's a bunch of tanky men. There's about 15 tanky men everywhere, all slipping and clopping about. I'm like this. There's too much, there's too much going on. I hate it. That's the first time I've been frustrated because I'm usually I've, I've practically do, you know, like you unlock perks in that game just by doing shit without even realizing. 1:13:54 I've practically locked all of the stealth perks in one go. So I'm like, that's pretty cool because I've been playing pretty stealthy. It's it's a weird mechanic and I've never seen it in any of the games, but pressing like L1 to lean and peep out is so fucking. It's so intuitive and it works so well. 1:14:11 Also I like how I can. I like how we can just do wield automatic shotguns. Silly as fuck, but cool, cruel and violent. 1:14:23 Speaker 2 Yeah, the there's a the bit that made me stop playing for a bit the second game. 1:14:28 Speaker 1 The old ones are New Colossus. 1:14:30 Speaker 2 In The New Colossus, yeah, there's people that are trying to escape and you're like, like, I'm going to hold them off. I think it is just like a time to think if if you just stay alive and start killing, yeah, and you lost X amount of time, then it'll cuts you and go on to the next bit. 1:14:46 But, you know, at the end of, you know, at the end of Red Dead, where it's James Marsden, he opens up the thing. Oh, yeah. And it's like a million guys and it don't matter how many you tag. 1:14:59 Speaker 1 Yeah. 1:14:59 Speaker 2 You are just going to die. Yeah, that's, that's how it feels. It feels like they're just everywhere, like on all sides of you. There's limited cover because they are just everywhere. Yeah, there's limited pickups for you ammo because it's it's in like a confined space. 1:15:16 Speaker 1 How does that mean the mission I just did? 1:15:17 Speaker 2 Everywhere. They're fucking everywhere. And then like the mega soldiers start coming in along with just like the normal guns and they're hyper powered as well. They've got like super fucking strength and all this sort. 1:15:29 Speaker 1 Yeah, because the big robot shits with big Gatling guns. 1:15:34 Speaker 2 And I was like, I don't, I don't want to lower the difficulty. 1:15:37 Speaker 1 Aim for the weak points. I don't have time to aim for the little tubes in his back. 1:15:45 Speaker 2 But like I, I think like I'm gonna start here because I know that this is an entry point for the bad dudes. So I'll stay here. I'll pick them off and then I'll like do whatever, keep shooting them, but do whatever. 1:15:57 Speaker 1 That's how I ended failed. That's how I ended up doing this mission. I I hid in a corner and waited patiently for everyone to come to me because there was all the big shits. Double shotgun them and I found if I crouched and stuffed I could with with like the fucking machine gun thing I had. 1:16:14 I could keep shooting at this fucking Mac guy and every time he was busting bullets, he just couldn't hit me because of the anger where I was on because I was above him. Just couldn't hit me. And I just wasted a full clip of DM and then there's two others that deal with. I just ran around SO. 1:16:33 I died about five times during that one time I was on the last mech I managed To clarify the guys did one mech, I did another mech. I got real close to the mech I made with double barrel shotguns. Just quadruple barrel because I was dual welded just plowing into it. He grabbed me once. 1:16:48 Just crushed my scores. What it kill fuck? Because I don't think the checkpoints are that forgiving. I think they sent you back a fur way. She's frustrating. 1:16:58 Speaker 2 Yeah, but fucking great game. 1:17:00 Speaker 1 Great game, great game. I do. I do like trying to get along as stealthy as I can though, right? I do like that, especially with the silencer and just picking people off, shooting people through the cheek. There. There'll be a few bullshit moments where I'd be like a guy will be really far away. I'm like, can he, is he there? 1:17:17 Can he, can he see me? Can I get a good shot on him? I don't be fuck, everybody knows where I am. There's one point where I got, you know, you've got that laser cutter in the first game, Got an upgrade for that. I'm like, oh, that's pretty cool. 1:17:33 I wonder what this new thing does. I fired it off. I was just on the floor, quietly fired it off. And then everyone was like, oh, but also it's always you. It feels better. Like I know they're all video game characters and shit, but it feels better just violently stabbing and that's it. 1:17:51 It's cool. It's so much better in Indiana. It's so much better than Indiana Jones, which is just big punches. Jones ain't violent at all and it's by the same devs but but very similar play style. First person you've got these big open areas remind me a little bit of Dishonored in a certain way with the not as good as not as traversal, but still really fucking good. 1:18:14 And they do still manage to give you like, cool set pieces like Pilot and a Mac at one point. You rent a car at one point and you know, it's cool. Also, one of the guys, like the first guy you meet right at the beginning on the aeroplane, I'm like, why? Why do you look exactly like Hugh Laurie? 1:18:30 Are you purposely modeled to look like Hugh Laurie? Just sound like him. I don't think you're you're him, but you know what I mean. Yeah. Anyway, that's the guy I decided to save the first time around, mainly because he was the first guy I met. 1:18:43 Speaker 2 Yeah, makes sense. 1:18:44 Speaker 1 But I know I probably should have said that little lad's life because he was like the way I saw the rest of the story going. If I saved this little kids life, this whiny bitch who I had foot slap out of a fucking panic attack at one point. 1:19:00 If I save this whiny bitch's life here, I'm just going to have him partnered with me for the rest of the game. I thought with him just moaning to me protecting him I guess, but not really fucking good all of a sudden. Great fucking game and it's and so far no complaints. Super. 1:19:14 Speaker 2 Good. Super good. 1:19:16 Speaker 1 Also something which they did not need to do because it's set in an alternate history. I didn't even realize this till I found one. You can find record LP's with ultimate history versions of real songs that came out. So one of them is like The Beatles, but it's not called The Beatles. 1:19:32 It's like the German word of The Beatles. Then you read the synopsis about it and it'd be like 4 boys from Liverpool decided to, you know, played ball and decided they learned in German to sing in German. And the the song is like Das Blue U boat. 1:19:49 And I don't know if you ever found this. You can listen to them in the songs in their entirety in their in the collection screen. They got a German House of the Rising Sun. Did you know this? 1:20:03 Speaker 2 I mean, it's, it's been. 1:20:04 Speaker 1 You must have, because I've been looking at you ever I've been. I've been looking at your trophies and like you did one of the codexes things, which I don't think I've got enough. You have to find everyone in every chapter, don't you? But I know you played through the game twice because I know you've done both. You saved both characters I think. 1:20:20 Speaker 2 Yeah, I think so. But again, it's been more than 10 years since I've. 1:20:25 Speaker 1 It was an old game, an old game, but it's so fucking good. 1:20:28 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, I can. I can remember that. I had a fucking blast playing it. But I. 1:20:32 Speaker 1 Can a blast Kowitz? I don't think I'd like him because he's such a like a strong jawed typical character. You know, you think he's going to be a big prick, but it's a cool guy, Cool guy. See some of the Nazi tattoo. Fuck you. 1:20:48 No, no, it's an old Nazi. I don't fucking shave it off. Cheese grater, right? That's great. I can't believe I never even again. I've had it on my list for ages. Never bothered playing. Never. I didn't even try it. 1:21:04 So it was just though. So I was like, cool, I'm happy that came up. 1:21:08 Speaker 2 That's good. 1:21:09 Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to mention last talking point.

Tiny elephants, capitalism, and the authenticity of speed 1:21:13 I was going to talk about the all high issue at the moment, but we can talk about that next week because that seems loaded. So I started. You're in Jurassic Park, Ohio. Yeah. I want to talk about these three points which I've got written down, one which I think, well, the first point, you've listened to Jurassic Park, right? 1:21:30 Really good. I'm really enjoying it by the way. It's really fucking good, this stuff. So you didn't mention to me when you were reading it. And like I said, I'm not even halfway through yet. Something that we were robbed of in the films, but John Hammond owned a tiny elephant. 1:21:46 Speaker 2 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:21:49 Speaker 1 In a bird. 1:21:50 Speaker 2 Cage aggressive elephant. Yeah, bird cage like a 1 foot tall angry elephant. 1:21:57 Speaker 1 You know what's funny, right? They bring up like, oh, because the genetics and cloning and stuff and whatnot, they bring up this tiny elephant that exists. Everybody wants a fucking pet elephant. That has nothing to do with how dinosaurs were created. Has it's completely different. It's a completely different process. 1:22:14 It's a completely different system. It was a completely different scientist doing it and he tried to do it again and he can't. It has nothing to do with taking the DNA from something and making something. Why is that the so? I understand why Steven Spielberg didn't put it in the film. 1:22:32 Speaker 2 But. 1:22:33 Speaker 1 I feel robbed that I didn't see a tiny elephant, because if you can put an animatronic T Rex on screen and do CGI in 1994 and make it look fucking good, you can do a tiny elephant. Yeah, yeah. Fucking robbed. 1:22:51 Just fucking what's it called? Park owner Guy Hammond going around with a fucking tiny pet elephant. Hilarious. Honestly, I was pissing myself for about 20 minutes thinking about one. How I was robbed of knowing that Jurassic Park started about a guy who had a tiny elephant and it kind of stemmed from birth. 1:23:14 Why don't I see that? That's also it would have been very silly if it was in the film. Very fucking silly. Other point I was going to make. So in the book, they aggressively talk about merchant Brandon. 1:23:30 Yeah, like, oh, we're going to make a fortune on this. We're going to sell pets. And if you want to keep them pets alive, you have to get your pet food from us. And then obviously, that's sold us quite. Oh, God, that's evil, You know, because it is. But it's how you make the millions. Yeah. 1:23:46 I don't know if you remember, it reminded me of how they sold toys of Jurassic Park in the 90s. And if it said basically every Jurassic Park toy had AJP somewhere on it, you could break a bit of its skin off and under its muscle and bones, you'd see the JP logo. 1:24:02 And like, if it's not about JP and it's not fucking real, if it's not got this logo, it's not fucking real. And that's how the toys were like sold at you. And it's very much how they were like saying, oh, you got to get you got to get the fucking engine logo on it. You got to you got to have the engine shit. Let's let's make tiny T rexes. 1:24:19 Wouldn't you want one of them running around? We want tea. Exercise of a cat. No, I don't want to take exercise of a cat running around my house. So it's dangerous. Speaking of that, they've the bit I've just got to in the book is like Doctor Woo has been all like, no, no, no, it's a fine. 1:24:36 Our dinosaurs are fine. They don't. They pose no danger. If one of our dinosaurs escaped or did anything in the real world, it wouldn't live for 12 hours. Essentially, it's got to have a pill every 12 hours to stay alive, which is insane. You can't manage a full pack of like 60 dinosaurs like that. 1:24:53 Insane. You're going to give it like this, this special amino acid pill or something that like helps the bones or something which their body is genetically made not to make. And you have to give them this every 12 hours or they'll die. They'll just become dead in six if they don't have it Insane. 1:25:09 Insane. I will say the author, Michael Crichton, done his fucking research on dinosaurs. I'm learning shit. Oh yeah, yeah, I got learnt. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cretaceous, Jurassic, all those periods. 1:25:26 Cool, cool, cool. Get to the killing. But no, like he must have done his research like a lot, which makes me think like I could never be a writer because like it's it's all right to have a concept and an idea of things, but he must have really looked into how everything was because like, I don't know how it was like in the 90s, but I don't know. 1:25:48 We know like dinosaurs were more like bird like and whatnot and stuff. They kind of they kind of hinted it and dressed about the film anyway, But they definitely say in this book, Oh yeah, they should be birds. And that's was like, I know book was written in the 80s, film came out in the 90s Insane. 1:26:04 But yeah, I think one more .0 yeah, yeah, so fucking silly. Last thing is about Henry, because I've just been listening to him gab on a Hammond about shit. So Henry was like, I think we should just kill off all the dinosaurs we've got now and just start again and make him a bit more docile and stuff. 1:26:24 And I think he was worried about like, I don't know, that one guy died at the beginning because philosophy and he's like, why would the velociraptors kill humans? Because they maybe they learn and whatever. Anyway, he wants to kill them all and start again, make them more docile and shit, you know, Voss Raptors are really quick and Hammer's like, why? 1:26:41 We've got real dinosaurs. Why would you start again? It's like, no, I'm just worried that the that the people who come see them might think they look speed up and Hammer's like, what do you mean speed up? You know, like on ATV show, I just think they just think, just think, I just think people will come and see the dinosaurs and then they'll think they speed up. 1:27:07 What, like they're looking at a fucking screen? Are you, are you insane? No, I'm just worried that thing that dinosaurs would look speed up and it just sounds like a Tim Robinson sketch. It's insane. 1:27:22 Like it's not the fucking 1920s and it's the train coming out the screen. You're in it. If you're in a zoo like environment, you're going to believe what's in front of you and in the fucking 90s, you're not going to think of fucking. 1:27:39 I think it's actually set a bit further in the future than the night. It might be set in the 2000s. I don't know. But the way he says, I'm worried that the audience, the general public will think they look speed up like it's an effect. Don't be fucking stupid. 1:27:54 They're not going to look speed up. Well, they'll they'll be fast. If he said I'm worried that the general public won't be able to see them because they're moving so quick while they're hunting, fine. Don't say the word that they're going to look speed up such a silly line. 1:28:11 And there are a couple of points where I'm at in the story which you never brought up with me, and I think they're fucking silly. I'm great. It's like every time I got to a new silly apartment, got to make a note of this because I will forget. 1:28:27 Imagine going to a zoo and seeing like a cheetah. You'll never see a cheetah run at a zoo, but imagine if you're dead. Is it real? I don't know. It looks speed up. I don't. 1:28:38 Speaker 2 Think so? It's it's awfully fast. 1:28:42 Speaker 1 It's not an effect. 1:28:43 Speaker 2 I'm going to call bullshit on this one. 1:28:47 Speaker 1 It's play, it's playing in in in times 2 speed. It's so silly insane. Anyway, really good but really enjoying it. Good, should get on your own. I bet you got like 3 credits in your bank now. 1:29:01 Speaker 2 Yeah, I've, I've not listened to anything for a long time, to be honest with you. Yeah, it's been watching shows and listen to music watching. 1:29:08 Speaker 1 Shows and listen to music. Adam, I think it's your shows. Spend a credit on fucking black boxer doom. I think you'd enjoy it. It's a stand alone bargain book and most of his stuff is like conjoining. Like it's a series, but this is just like 1 and done thing. 1:29:25 The ending was a bit weird, but the the journey was good. You know, the journey was better than the ending, but I didn't mind the ending. It was fine. I just think it was all wrapped up neatly, like too neatly. Both of them are all of that great. And the mystery keeps you there. What's in this fucking box? 1:29:41 But yeah. Yeah. Well, see that he's really fucking good. I like the way he writes. It's just, I think you will as well because it's just very pop culture or sort of thing. But yeah, by the way, we don't. 1:29:55 Final Thoughts and Podcast Sign-Off Yeah. What are you signing out with? 1:29:59 Speaker 2 I've been Jack and Ian helps us play. 1:30:03 Speaker 1 I've been Mike. I remember Alf well. He's back in POG form. Do you not think that's insane?


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