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Episode nineteen:
George, Paul, Ringo, and... Nicholas Cage?

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  • Debating Potato Waffles and French Language Quirks (0:00)
  • Mike's Mortifying Easter Biscuit Customer Interaction (4:56)
  • The Absurdity of Four Simultaneous Beatles Biopics (8:02)
  • From Beatles Actors to Helen Keller's Life Story (19:02)
  • Defending the Devil May Cry Anime from Fan Gatekeeping (29:44)
  • Praising Animated Gems: Scavengers Reign and Blue Eye Samurai (46:11)
  • Exploring A24's 'Beef' and The Rock's New Role (55:45)
  • The Silly Rules and Lore of Vampires in Buffy (1:03:54)
  • Mike Flanagan's Dread and Nicolas Cage's Acting Spectrum (1:18:00)
  • The Decline of Spoof Films and Outdated 90s Humor (1:26:46)
  • Battling Edgar Allan Crow and Robotronic Voice Issues (1:34:17)

Debating Potato Waffles and French Language Quirks

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So maybe they are considered sweet? Maybe it's just a British thing that waffles with light savoury. I feel like we do make everything like potatoes and it might be just be an Oz thing.

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Speaker 2 Well, if the potatoes are such a versatile vegetable, and I'll be with, what would we?

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Speaker 1 Essentially like the egg of the vegetable world. Yeah, as the Orbit said, you can smash them, freeze, dry them, air fry them, put them in a pot. That's what Sam said.

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Wait, even Sam? It was Mary or Pippen. I don't know which one it was. Yeah, come at me, JRR talking historians.

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Speaker 2 Yeah, talking, talking.

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Speaker 1 Oh yeah, that guy. Where's he now? Probably still talking. Talking, probably.

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Speaker 2 Still putting episodes, yeah.

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Speaker 1 So in the ninth age of the human error, I don't know something it's.

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Speaker 2 Not a ninth age.

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Speaker 1 I don't fucking know. I'm not talking talking. So yeah, apparently potato waffles are just embracing. God, I wish I had an American friend who would come over and visit and I'd be like, let me put you on from some waffles and they'd be like, whoa, I prefer some hot Food First.

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I prefer some like something savory. You're getting something savory, mate. You're getting waffles? No. Do you start with dessert first in your household? No. Of this is going to blow your little mind. Blow your little American mind.

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Do you reckon when the British people first heard about waffles? Oh, that's a bit sweet. None of that. It's almost like a pastry. It's fluffy. Oh, you know, it'll be better if this was potato.

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1:49 Speaker 2 I mean, that's assuming that the Americans were making waffles before those. 1:54 Speaker 1 I imagine say I because most of the Google searches waffle just on its own. It's a sweet dessert. Well. 2:02 Speaker 2 Yeah. 2:02 Speaker 1 So I'm assuming something. 2:04 Speaker 2 'S more popular, doesn't mean that it was the first. 2:06 Speaker 1 True, I'm just assuming. 2:07 Speaker 2 My standpoint is is that America is an incredibly young country. 2:12 Speaker 1 It's probably from I'm just saying America because America it's probably Italian or something. They they fuck about with pastries right? Or France. No, it's probably French. In it are always fucking about with pastries, croissants and the like. Pana raisins. 2:27 Speaker 2 A pan full of raisins. 2:28 Speaker 1 Pana Raisin, Panorazin. I don't know. I don't speak French. It's pronounced well. It's spelled pain O Raisin. 2:37 Speaker 2 Oh, raisins are a pain. 2:38 Speaker 1 Fucking annoying. No raisins and a panorazin. Oh wait, yeah, there is. Yeah, that's why I don't like them, because the raisins. Maybe that's what it maybe that's what a panorazin stands for. Panna raisins again. I'm not French if you didn't know well Pen. 2:55 Speaker 2 Means bread, don't it? What is that? 3:01 Speaker 1 Because I just translated it in my head. Oh, oh, oh, do you know what I want for breakfast? Oh, big bread of raisins. Oh, butter is up some bread of raisins. So shit, don't it? Pana Raisin just sounds a bit better. 3:18 We should definitely not adopt French language into our language just for like certain things like Pano chocolate, call it bread chocolate already. 3:27 Speaker 2 Seen. 3:28 Speaker 1 Already seen, Already seen Deja vu. They don't know that they don't know. 3:34 Speaker 2 No one knows but me. 3:36 Speaker 1 No, what we're doing, we're taking talking from the outside, not the outside. We're always here. 3:43 Speaker 2 Yeah. 3:44 Speaker 1 There's not always recording. 3:45 Speaker 2 Just a separate part of the cube. 3:46 Speaker 1 It's the recording bit of the cube. You don't even. 3:48 Speaker 2 Worry about that. 3:49 Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes we hit record, sometimes we don't. Sometimes an albatross talks, then don't worry about it, you know. 3:54 Speaker 2 Sometimes the albatross will. 3:55 Speaker 1 We have conversations not Privy backside. 3:57 Speaker 2 Such as such as deja vu translated means already seen. 4:04 Speaker 1 Which I think is better and I think we should just say that and don't act surprised when you say it already seen. 4:12 Speaker 2 Already seen? 4:14 Speaker 1 What was that Neo? A black cat already seen. Honestly it'd be better. We should just not take. Is it just French words we do it with or is there like. I suppose I can't think of any slop at all in my. 4:28 Speaker 2 Head. 4:29 Speaker 1 Like maybe Italian I assume? 4:31 Speaker 2 There's other things. 4:31 Speaker 1 That, but I'm thinking more of a Starbucks thing with sizes or venti and Grande. I don't think that's the wildly adopted thing that we just have in our lexicon. Yeah. 4:41 Speaker 2 That's that's a Starbucks only thing in it. Yeah, yeah. Anyway.


Mike's Mortifying Easter Biscuit Customer Interaction 4:56 Welcome to another sort of chapter in the cube. Hi, Mike. 5:01 Speaker 1 No, you're not I. 5:04 Speaker 2 Just I just wanted to spread a bit of confusion. You did mostly for you more than. 5:09 Speaker 1 Ever. Yeah, because usually it's listening. 5:10 Speaker 2 Baseball. 5:11 Speaker 1 I was listening. 5:14 Speaker 2 Thank you. Thank you for not being rude. 5:16 Speaker 1 No, because usually if if I wasn't listening I would have responded with my usual and I'm not. But I said no, you're not I am. 5:23 Speaker 2 Well, anyway. 5:25 Speaker 1 Fine, I'm jacked then no. 5:26 Speaker 2 You're not. 5:27 Speaker 1 Fuck you, So what? 5:29 Speaker 2 Have you been doing what? What have we been doing? Wait. I've watched a lot of things since we lost. 5:34 Speaker 1 I've not. 5:35 Speaker 2 Recorded anything I've. 5:36 Speaker 1 Watched a lot of things, but I had a bit let me walk up on my notes. It's just three bullet points, right? The other day at work, some woman on the headset, she went, have you got any, you got any Easter biscuits? 5:55 I knew for a while what she wanted. She wanted a Easter egg shaped ginger biscuits with it's like an, it's just an awful fucking ginger biscuit with icing sugar on it shaped like an egg and there's a chicken popping out of it. You know what I mean? 6:12 Because she said, have you got any Easter biscuits? And I was like Easter biscuits with me, Easter biscuits because I like messing about with people and I'm like, you know, I like Easter biscuits. I've got, I've got gingerbread biscuits with like egg patterns on them. 6:29 If you consider that to be yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want, I just, I just want something Easter. I just want an Easter biscuit. It's gingerbread. Are you sure you're right? Because not a lot of people like gingerbread. Well, some people don't like gingerbread. 6:40 Speaker 2 Bye. Not a lot of people. I think you mean you I. 6:43 Speaker 1 Don't mind. I don't mind gingerbread. I'm a bit Privy to gingerbread. 6:47 Speaker 2 We've got sessions about gingerbread before you Pooh poohed it muscle every. 6:51 Speaker 1 Time. It's just harsh. Anyway, if it was like a an Easter cookie or something, they have to ask for an Easter cookie at first. Oh, no, we don't do any Easter cookies. I've got Easter gingerbreads. Yeah, I don't care as long as it's Easter themed. All right, you gung ho sound like you don't care what it tastes like as long as it had an Easter pattern on it. 7:11 So I said we do have some Easter crucifixes on like gingerbread flavored still, but it's more Easter because there's a picture of Christ on there and it's been nailed to a cross and there's little red icing where his hands were and he's got a little, he's got a little ginger thorn of crowns on little. 7:28 Speaker 2 Chocolate. 7:29 Speaker 1 Chip, little chocolate chip, Crown of thorns, little gingerbread crucifix. You don't want one of them instead? No. God, no, I don't want that. Oh, God. And she was, she was, she was mortified. I mean, well, you can't get more Easter than that. Why don't you want that one? I know, She fumes. She drove off. 7:47 I mean she she took the egg and then she had the cheat for I ordered two of them. First of all, you didn't. And if you did, I just ignored you and I went straight into my crucifix bit, which is more important to me.

The Absurdity of Four Simultaneous Beatles Biopics 8:02 I don't know if you heard, but there's a big, there's been a big, there's been a big Film Festival on lately. Film Festival. It's, it's not a Film Festival. It's, it's like a film thing where all the big studios, Paramount, Disney, Marvel, Disney, MGM and stuff, it's all for executives. 8:25 And they get together once a year in this big room. They show off trailers, not to the general public. It's just for like some influence will be there, some influence will be there, but it's mainly just for like stock purposes and stuff like these are our upcoming films. It's what you'll be excited about. And what gets leaked online is descriptions of the trailers. 8:42 For example, they showed a bit more footage of Fantastic Four. They showed off the Silver Surfer and it's the Lady Silver Surfer. So it's shallow bow as a Silver Surfer because it's in that universe of things, because that is set in a different universe. 8:58 Whatever. I just hope at some point I get my knowing rad because like that guy don't know much about Sha La Belle. She died, didn't she? In the first episode, The first episode of Silver Surfer's Law? She died Like no, no, no she didn't. I. 9:12 Speaker 2 Thought Sha La Belle was the planet. What's What's the planet called? 9:15 Speaker 1 Then Zen LA, I'm saying I can't remember it might I can't remember what company is doing it. It might be I don't know if it's Sony Pictures or MGMI, can't remember. They might be. It's one of them. They got this idea and I think it's dog shit stupid. So there are In 2027, there are four separate Beatles biopics coming out. 9:36 Speaker 2 Yeah, they're all coming out the same month. 9:38 Speaker 1 One a week in March. I think that's fucking ridiculous in time. 9:42 Speaker 2 For someone's birthday. 9:43 Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not watching the George Harrison biopic. I don't want to. I don't want to watch any of them. They've. 9:50 Speaker 2 You don't want to watch them for the for the post credits. Same but together. 9:58 Speaker 1 Why is he your corner? Yeah. 9:59 Speaker 2 I think. 10:00 Speaker 1 So we're breaking apart a team, we want you not to be a part of it. Sorry that was a horrible yo corner impression. Actually marks on at the at the end of everyone sounds. 10:17 Speaker 2 Like the albatross is coming. 10:18 Speaker 1 Earliest no, that wasn't the albatross. That was your coroner. The giant your coroner had that floats around the No. I think it's a dumb idea. 10:29 Speaker 2 I think it's superfluous. I think it's egregious in in the what, what, what sort of a market are they trying to like? 10:37 Speaker 1 The die hard Beatles fans. 10:38 Speaker 2 Cater to you. 10:39 Speaker 1 Just the die hard Beatles fans, which I I admit there's a lot of. 10:43 Speaker 2 But but if this is like like. 10:45 Speaker 1 Just make one. Just make one. Beatles biopic if This. 10:48 Speaker 2 Was like 3 decades ago. I don't understand it, you know what I mean, but. 10:52 Speaker 1 No, they would never have the idea to do 3 separate films about each one. Do you reckon there's going to be some of the same scenes in each film? You know, like, so the George Harrison, the John Lennon, the Ringo Starr one and the Paul McCartney. I already said that one. 11:08 No, John Lennon, Ringo Starr. Drugs are from Paul McCartney. Yeah. So do you reckon like it's all going to be about their life before The Beatles? And then if that's the case, I. 11:19 Speaker 2 Think it's going to be a bit half and half, I think. I think the first half of the movie is going to be them as kids, maybe their life before Beatles, and then the second-half is going to be how they were while they were in The Beatles. 11:32 Speaker 1 So. 11:33 Speaker 2 Maybe like a bit after it as well. 11:35 Speaker 1 But I remember watching, I was very excited for the Season 2 of Lost because it's where they all find out about the Hatch and stuff, and they were finally going down the Hatch upon every rewatch. And I got frustrated of it because it was a week to week show as well. 11:51 It took about four or five episodes, maybe just 4 episodes. It might be over exaggerating to actually get to the point of like the hash because the good on the Hatch and it would be from Jack's perspective, right. And you see a scene player Desmond will come out him with a gun. 12:08 He'll be he'll say his line like oh, Lola brother, do you want him to die? Whatever he'll shoot. He's gone into the event just for scare Jack a little bit credits whatever cliffhanger next episode would be the same fucking episode from Kate's point of view. And then when while she was calling the vents, the scene where Desmond's talking to Jack is the he shoots the vent. 12:28 Kate goes, you know, but also locks down there as well. So you've got to do an episode which from locks point of view and you see the same scene week to week and it takes fucking ages, just like it all could have been done in one episode. You know what I mean? And it really dragged it out. And it's it was frustrating at the time and it's frustrating to rewatch because you've got to listen to Desmond say the line, do you want him to die? 12:51 Oh, is it? Is it Courtney Geezer? Anyway, do you think it's going to? I think it's going to be like that. So there's going to be is the same scene going to be there where they're all in the recording studio and it's just the same scene in every film. 13:08 Because then you think you don't. 13:09 Speaker 2 Know to be honest with you. We'll have to watch. 13:11 Speaker 1 Them I'm not watching all of the fucking Beatles biopics. 13:15 Speaker 2 You watch a lot of slop and you're telling me you're not going? 13:17 Speaker 1 To I'm not going to pay for it. Do you know what they do? You know what they've marketed as the the first bingeable cinema event. It's not bingeable if one comes out each week. You'd literally have to wait till week 4 and watch them all in one go. And I don't think. 13:33 Speaker 2 Then we'll do that. Listen to me. 13:36 Speaker 1 Cinema time is precious. Usually studios have a mandate to make your film an hour and a half and that is so you can have as many screens of that same film in one day. I don't think in March, say if a Marvel film comes out in March, right? 13:56 Say if Avengers fucking Doomsday comes out in March, right? What? It doesn't. But say if it does, do you think cinemas are going to take up all the screens with a Ringo, a George Harrison, a Paul McCartney and an Ian Megan? 14:13 Do you think they're going to take up 4 cinema? 14:18 Speaker 2 Screens struggle through the names of the vehicles. 14:23 Speaker 1 Do you think they're not going to take up cinemas? Aren't going to want to take up 4 full screens to just be playing war tour Beatles all day all fucking month. And films don't last a month do they they? They're in cinemas. Well, these days they do, but it's going to be in the cinemas for about two months. 14:39 Speaker 2 You might see it's it's sort of uncharted territory. 14:43 Speaker 1 Really it is uncharted territory. I I don't know why there isn't 5th by films, because obviously you do d'artagnan right? You think you do you, Paul McCartney, your Ringo Starr, your George Harrison and your Do you know what? 15:04 I always struggle on the 4th 1. And do you know what's weird? The 4th 1's different every time, so. 15:10 Speaker 2 You start with a different beat every time you. 15:16 Speaker 3 Go. 15:17 Speaker 1 You can't do them right. You get your George Harrison, you get your Ringo Starr, you get your Paul McCartney, and you get your Who am I Missing, John? 15:26 Speaker 2 Lennon. 15:26 Speaker 1 John Lennon. Famous one. Anyway, you get them, and then you'd think the fifth one would be a Beatles film. You know, like, that's your Avengers. Yeah. So like your John Lennon's your Iron Man, your Paul McCartney's Captain America, your Ringo Stars, though. 15:47 Who else had a solo film? Thor and your 4th Beatles. Thor. And then your rat. Fuck off. The other one d'artagnan. I can't because I can't remember the first three. 16:02 My my memory spans 3 names and that's it. I get to three things. There's only four four names I can remember. That's Donatello, Michael and Joe Leonardo, Raphael. If it's not them four in any particular order, I'm I'm gone. I don't think I can name all six of the Power Rangers, the original ones, other than Tommy and Jason. 16:23 Billy, Kimberly, Aisha. Oh, cool, I can. That's more than four. Zach could have got cancelled if I don't remember him. No, but people be questioned. Why do you forget Zach? 16:39 I can't believe you forgot Zach. No reason I remembered Zach. He was the frog and he wasn't happy about. Oh no I wasn't Zach. Zach was. Was that guy even original power Ranger? I know he was the Black Ranger in the film but was Zach even in the film or as a kid that did not bother and knock her? 16:55 I don't. 16:56 Speaker 2 Know it's a very long time since I've seen. 16:58 Speaker 1 It I just remember the Black Ranger end up being a frog and he's disappointed with it, but I don't remember it. I don't remember it being Zach unless. 17:04 Speaker 2 It was the college. Well, he changed the act to a white. 17:07 Speaker 1 Guy either way. 17:09 Speaker 2 Really struggling to remember. 17:10 Speaker 1 You genuinely think they do the set up films and then the last one would be an Avengers film but The Beatles? Imagine if Marvel did that. I mean I don't. I don't even think Marvel are popular enough even in their heyday when they do anything and people would just flock to cinemas just because it is a Marvel. 17:29 I even think if they managed to do a film a week I think people get burnt out so quick. See if they did an Iron Man, Captain America, a Hulk and a Thor, and then the fifth one was a fucking Avengers, There they all are. So it's a law? Don't think I could, but yeah. 17:45 Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't know if this is what we're going to do. If it was me in charge, then then this is what I'd do with it, right? Yeah. Well then. Well then ball guy in the cinema to play these, it's high take two screens. Yeah. And then you can roll them sort of back-to-back on those two screens, so you can have it staggered as well so that when McCartney is playing on screen one, Lenins playing on screen 2, then after them two, Harrison will be playing on screen one. 18:15 Speaker 1 You forget as well, you know. 18:18 Speaker 2 They are constantly staggered so you have chance to see something that you want to see. 18:23 Speaker 1 That makes sense after all the films have come out, but you forget. 18:27 Speaker 2 Well, Yeah, yeah, yeah. On, on, on week four. Yeah, yeah. Do it. Do it like. 18:32 Speaker 1 That do you think it's going to be a point where so the films come out week 1234 all match done, but by the time week 5 rolls around, the first films, then you can't watch it anymore. You've missed it because films have a short shelf life in cinemas these days anyway. So then it's like, Oh no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I missed the George Arison and now I'm stuck with a fucking Ringo and that's the only one. 18:52 I'm going to be so lost. It feels like something that is a good idea for a streaming service.

From Beatles Actors to Helen Keller's Life Story 19:02 Yes. It feels like it should be a, a Netflix original or an Amazon original thing like, oh, do you know Amazon doing 4 Beatles films? Oh, that's pretty cool. I might dip in and watch that. You know, they're releasing them like weekly as well. Cool. I might dip in and watch that. Sweet. 19:17 Or you know what? I might wait, I might wait four weeks and watch them all at once and just sit on my couch and watch 8 hours of Beatles fun. But paying fucking 13 quid a pop or whatever cinema prices are these days. 19:32 I'm generally excited for it on the sense of, I knew it in the sense that I'm not going to watch any of them, but I'm excited to see the box office returns for each one and how much each one cost. Like, did they put more money into the John Lennon one than they did the Ringo Starr 1? 19:52 You know, did George Harrison's film make less money than Paul Mcgann's film? Just going to make some with Doctor Who actors fucking Joseph Quinn's playing one of them as well. 20:09 Oh yeah, I don't think he looks like any of The Beatles. Which ones? He. I. 20:13 Speaker 2 Don't know. I don't know if it was actually stated he was playing all if, I just heard that he was playing one of. 20:19 Speaker 1 Them. We'll see. He is playing George Harrison. I won't like George Harrison. 20:25 Speaker 2 Does it say? 20:26 Speaker 1 Yeah, it will. Beatles biopic. I don't think I know any of the other actors. Oh, Barry key organs playing one of them. You know that guy Fumble Sabrina Carpenter by cheating on him? He kind of plays the Joker in that deleted scene in the new The Batman. 20:41 If you ever saw that bit when he's talking to Riddler in the Arkham. 20:44 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. 20:45 Speaker 1 I was going to say that does look like him, but that is just a picture of The Beatles. Well, they're. 20:50 Speaker 2 Doing a great job. 20:54 Speaker 1 Someone right? This is funny I saw just like a post about it, like Barry key organ. I can't remember it. I don't know who's playing. It's hard to get information easier Just typed in IMDb but don't have to find out the name of every film. Oh so Paul Moscow was Paul McCartney? 21:10 I reckon they did that so we wouldn't get confused about his own name. I don't. I don't know who Paul Moscow is. Harris Dickinson as John Lennon, Joseph Quinn as George Harrison and Barrick Yorgen's Ringo star. I saw someone say also, is Ringo Starr going to be Irish? No. Is there, I'm like, you didn't realise Barrick Yorgen's an actor and he's probably not going to do his Irish voice. 21:31 He's probably going to put on a Liverpudlian voice. No. Paul account on Paul Messy as well. Apparently he's Irish. Well, most of them are. They're all Irish. No. Joseph Quinn's 31. I thought it was younger than that. 21:47 Why? It looks good. I just think it's a silly idea and I don't, and I don't think it's going to do well and I don't. Interesting. I don't think they'll ever do it again because I don't know what else you could do it with IS. 21:57 Speaker 2 Not a good. 22:00 Speaker 1 Idea if it does really, really well, we're going to get they're going to try and do it again with like The Who or something Queen maybe or they'd fucking love that, won't they? No, because you know when? 22:16 No, because you know when Bohemian Rhapsody came out, they, all the living members are Queen. Everyone but Freddie. They all demanded that I'll get equal screen time, which led to it looking fucking choppy and awkward as fuck. 22:31 Bad film anyway. But yeah, we could do it with Queen. But who's going to watch any other member of Queen other than Brian May? At least I can fumble my way through The Beatles. I can name two of the Queens, Elizabeth and Murray. 22:46 No, but like, can you name anyone other than Brian May and Freddie Mercury off top here? Right. I thought you. 22:53 Speaker 2 Were. 22:54 Speaker 1 Going to give me more, can you? Can you name any other members of royalty? Amber Lynn. 23:01 Speaker 2 Victoria. 23:02 Speaker 1 Ginger. Scary. All right? No, I didn't know. 23:06 Speaker 2 What you were doing? 23:07 Speaker 1 That's because I I was naming the stage names. I should have said Jerry Alliwell Law, whatever the scary ones called. 23:15 Speaker 2 Let's see Queens Queens tricks in the tell. 23:19 Speaker 1 Katya OK, those guys inclusive, inclusive in the cube, inclusive in in cubes there. The Q in LGBTQ stands for Cube. 23:40 You know, lesbian bi LG No lesbian gay he. 23:44 Speaker 2 Is my. 23:48 Speaker 1 Ringo, George and Cube. If there was a if there was a talent show where you generally just have to name 4 things of anything, I wouldn't get far. 24:05 Oh my God, I wouldn't get fire at all. But yeah, outside Freddie Mercury in Brian May. Do you know anyone else in Queen? 24:14 Speaker 2 This is a Bulger I'm I'm pretty sure. 24:16 Speaker 1 Poultry. Or is that a James Bond? I get my I get my Beatles mixed up with Doctor Who actors and I get my Queens people mixed up with James Bond actors. Who's single? 24:29 Speaker 2 In The Who? 24:31 Speaker 1 OK, that makes sense because I did mention The Who earlier. They could do a Who one, but who's going to watch The Who? Four part biopic members of Queens, I think. 24:43 Speaker 2 I'd be more interested in watching a Who movie than a Beatles movie, I'm being honest with you. But again. 24:49 Speaker 1 Probably because they're not as popular and you don't know much about them it. 24:53 Speaker 2 Feels niche to do it now. 24:55 Speaker 1 Freddie Mercury, Brian May. Obviously, John. Deacon, John. 24:58 Speaker 2 Deacon. 24:59 Speaker 1 The most pastor name I've ever seen in my life. And Roger Taylor. I would have never got Taylor. Yeah. I don't know much about The Who you know, other than that they knew some Anne Frank character who could play pinball really well. 25:17 You know, deaf, dumb and blind. Anne Frank classic always will be. I cannot, I cannot listen to pinball. Was there anymore without thinking of Anne Frank? 25:34 Because I know there was like there was a famous deaf, dumb and blind kid. Helen Keller. That's the one. The 4th Beetle, Ringo, Paul, John and Helen Keller. 25:53 I cannot imagine. I don't think anyone could ever imagine because I'd be outside the realms of like, what is conceivable, I guess. Like I can kind of imagine what it's like to be blind and deaf, but to be blind and deaf from birth. And also, I don't know, whatever the PC term is for dumb nowadays because they're just called a deaf, dumb and blind in there, mute, non verbal. 26:17 But I guess that comes anyway if you if you're born deaf and blind, you know, how how does one learn to add this question to people? If you're born deaf and blind? Oh, do you? Oh, do you learn to read or speak Braille all right? Yes, but how do you get taught anything? 26:34 You know what I mean? 26:35 Speaker 2 Yeah. 26:36 Speaker 1 Right. You can't. You can't teach Braille to someone who can't hear you. I get. I don't know, can you? I imagined to get taught through shapes, but you just. I don't know how you'd even communicate with them. 26:51 With R Ellen. I wonder how long she's lived for. What are we guessing? I think. 26:57 Speaker 2 She's going to say something. We should go. I think she got to a live old age. You're not going to give a guess. 27:03 Speaker 1 If you like Jesus Christ, no, because I would have thought like 15 or something. No way. That's her signature. Was she deaf to unblind? She wrote 14 books. 27:19 She was a lecturer, so she could speak, right? She lost her sight and a hearing at about 19 months old. So she learned everything before then, I guess. Then she communicated primarily using home signs until the age of seven. 27:35 She met her first teacher and lifelong companion. And Sullivan, look at the state of this. This signature looks like Tim Burton took effort to make it. 27:46 Speaker 2 Sure. 27:47 Speaker 1 That's, well, impressive. Spooky. 27:54 Speaker 2 Exclusively by Chilla. 28:00 Speaker 1 That's a signature. It's not fun. What's my name? So what's that? Windings. 28:06 Speaker 2 No, like what I'm saying is, is that perfectly printed? 28:10 Speaker 1 Yeah. 28:11 Speaker 2 How was someone's hand been able to do that? 28:14 Speaker 1 Do you know they say like when you lose one sense you gain like high another senses? I bet you could taste everything. Maybe she could taste learning. Yeah, she lived to the Raiport age of 87. I don't. I don't know if I said that before or if I just never said it. 28:32 Speaker 2 You expressed shock, but I decided not to let you know. 28:36 Speaker 1 I just forgot she wrote 14 books but it says under notice noticeable works. The story of my life one that's it. Maybe her other books just weren't that good. Oh my God, that's what you listen to this podcast for her to get educated. 28:54 Speaker 2 Listen to you quietly. 28:58 Speaker 1 No, because it's like how did she, how did she learn? Right. So a teacher taught her with the help a help of a teacher, Anne Sullivan Keller learned the manual alphabet and could communicate by finger spelling. For the popular search. 29:13 Another popular search is who is Alan Keller and why is she famous? What happened to Helen Keller at the age of 18 months? Did Alan Keller have a baby? Nah, she didn't. She was never married, although she was once engaged. She and her secretary and former journalist named Peter Fagan. 29:31 Why would you say that? Peter Fagan. Fagan. Yeah. Anyway, sorry. I just got lost in Ellen Callahan, just like Peter Fagan did.

Defending the Devil May Cry Anime from Fan Gatekeeping 29:44 Go on. You've been watching a lot of shit. Well, have you been binging? 29:48 Speaker 2 Let's see. 29:50 Speaker 1 This is written on the back of your You watched Devil May Cry. 29:53 Speaker 2 Yeah, I watched Devil May Cry. What? 29:54 Speaker 1 Do you think of that? 29:55 Speaker 2 Really good, Really good. 29:56 Speaker 1 I'm on episode 4 or five. He's just jumped out of the plane and got his devil trigger ability. Really really enjoying it. As a long time Devil May Cry fan, really fucking enjoying it. I took some. I was on Twitter before I took some screenshots. 30:15 People either fucking hate it or they just think it's all right. And then there's people going we're not ready to make right. Found that I'm like, well, no. What what do you mean? There's there's one really annoyed me, but people are just like this. I I don't know what it is, but we live in a day and age where I genuinely believe people just want to hate on things for hating on things. 30:36 Yeah, like no other reason. Just to like go. 30:39 Speaker 2 Because it's cool to not like something. 30:42 Speaker 1 Yeah let's see so somewhat this guys posted like hey so guy who didn't really like the anime here don't fucking berate people for liking the show. And then a response to that is no they need to be berated and gate kept letting these people enjoy garbage. 30:59 Slop is why Netflix keep pumping out garbage and slop ruining franchises. Gatekeep harder and then someone just bumper with them. No good can be bought from unwarranted harassment of people just simply enjoying something. Hard disagree. 31:15 Media is where it's at today because of the non-stop slop. Because people haven't shamed people for supporting dog shit slop enough. This guy, I don't know it, I don't know if he's like even seen the show where he's just no, it's dog shit slop and I don't want nothing to do with it. 31:34 There is another tweet, which is the four horsemen of nerd posers, fake fans, all of them. One of them is Addie Shanky, the guy who's done the don't make cry anime. He also did Castlevania and he also did the captain laser hawk. 31:52 You know, this, this him cosplaying like like 5-10 years ago as Dante. The guy's a fan, you know, this show's based off a manga, which is the Devil May Cry 3 manga, which she said about two years before the events of that game. The white bunnies in the manga, for example, all the characters in the manga, there is some crossover there, Some characters are introduced sooner. 32:12 You know, it's slightly different. It's not coming to the games, it's a different story. Get over it. Another one of these fake fans is Kevin Smith. Fake nerd, fake fan doesn't doesn't know anything about comics or nerd culture or anything like that. He's not a comic book nerd at all. 32:29 No. Is it fate poser? Kevin Smith, Absolute poser. I don't know because people didn't like his. He man, I guess, which again, great show. The other guy, I don't know if you're familiar with him, but he's Dave Filoni. He's the guy who essentially created the Clone Wars animated TV series DCGI one. 32:48 He's a massive Star Wars fan. He's like overseeing all the Star Wars stuff at the moment. You understand Star Wars property, but calling these people like fake fans and posers am I? I think more people like that should be creating shows like this because I think their love for the genre, it seeps through and I'm always like, I'm always champion for that. 33:07 Another guy's part. I'm not hate. Well, I'm not hate watching pose a hat cartoon. I'm not even going to pirate. I'm just going to play the games. All right, go do that. But don't say you're going to hate watch it if you you've not fucking seen it. You know what I mean? 33:22 Someone put it did not respect the source material. It took all of 11 minutes of the first episode to them shit all over the law. I guarantee you they are not shitting over the law like the was the fucking demon son of Sparta. 33:38 His mother got murdered, he thinks his brother got murdered. The amulet. All that is the most of that's in Devil May Cry 3. You know what I mean? Also the law of Devil May cries all over the fucking show anyway. For the longest years no one knew the proper timeline. 33:54 Everyone thought Devil May cry. Well he said don't. May cry takes place right at the very end and everyone's like it's shit but it don't make any sense but whatever it is what it is. And then after don't make cry 5 came out they're like no actually don't make cry 5 takes place after ever make cry 2 and don't make cry 2 is actually set before 4 now and everyone goes OK and they're just not bothered about it. 34:15 But no all of a sudden because of this non Canon show which doesn't try to squeeze into the timeline of events, they're all like fucking shitting all over it. Lady shouldn't be introduced yet, all right? And it's cool the characters aren't acting like themselves. 34:31 This isn't Dante, which I think is insane because he's acting exactly like Dante. He's a big goof. He's a big idiot, you know, but he's cool. Oh, his voice isn't the right voice because it's not Dante from the games voice. 34:48 I don't know if you know this, but the voice of Dante from the anime is actually the voice of Nero from the games. A common complaint when Devil May Cry 4 came out, when you played as Nero was he sounds too much like a young Dante. Why is he sounding like Dante all of a sudden? This guy's voicing a young Dante, and everyone's mad that it's not the guy. 35:07 He's playing Dante. And another thing, one last thing about it all. There was a Devil May Cry anime that came out in 2007. Did you know this? It was 12 episodes long. It was an anime, and it was OK. 35:24 It wasn't great. And it was universally considered like, it's fine. Dante's a bit mopey, he's a bit depressed. He's constantly like in debt, right? And everyone's like, it's fine, I guess. 35:42 No, because people are just hating on the new anime. They're all like, I'm going to go watch the 2007 version. It's much better. 2007 is much better and everyone fucking loves the 2007 version like it's the best piece of shit that ever got shot out. 35:59 I might I'm I'm having a similar situation to when the new Star Wars came out. The new new ones like the new trilogy and everyone this is shit. The phantom menace was better. This is shit. Attack of the clones was like apex Star Wars. 36:16 I'm like, I was the when everyone shot on the original Star Wars, not the original Star Wars. The prequels. I'll still shit on the prequels. There was shit then and the shit now. They'll always be fucking shit. Some of the newer films are also shit, but they're not as shit as that. 36:31 That's my fucking hell I'll die on. No, all of a sudden everybody fucking loves 2007 Dante anime. I'm like, no, it it was, it wasn't great. It wasn't cool. I mean, animation was nice, it was a bit whatever, but I think, I don't know, maybe because lady dresses like Lady in the games in this and in this one she doesn't dress like Lady in the games. 36:53 But again, she's not at that level yet, you know? But I do. I do like where they go. I don't know where it goes, but I hope. Does a dad come back in it as a big bald evil shit? I'm not. 37:03 Speaker 2 Gonna be into spoilers. 37:04 Speaker 1 I know, I know, I know. A dad's an evil shit from the games anyway. Yeah, but. 37:07 Speaker 2 You don't know if he comes into the show. 37:10 Speaker 1 He's got to do at some point. I just wonder if it'd be bald and evil and. 37:14 Speaker 2 I will say that it's nice for Season 2. 37:17 Speaker 1 Where if it's leaning into no make cry 3, which it should be anyway, he should be like her dad should be teamed up with Virgil. I think that's probably where they're going to end it somewhere he's saying no, but I'm probably right. You don't know I don't know. 37:32 Also in the 2007 just. 37:35 Speaker 2 Solemnly shake my head at you. 37:37 Speaker 1 No, in the 2007 anime for some reason they had every time Dante did a cool like bullet kill thing it said bingo and not jackpot. You know full well if that if that was done now, people would be kicking the fuck off about like nobody's business. 37:53 You cannot please these fucking people and it's insane. 37:58 Speaker 3 Just. 37:59 Speaker 1 Oh it it. Oh how dare they. How dare they play Devil Trigger when Dante does this Devil Trigger for the first time. That's Nero's song. That that song's for Nero. That was his theme tune. Why didn't they play Devil Never Cry for Dante? I'm like, well, one the Devil Trigger song for Nero played the first time Nero got his Devil Trigger. 38:22 Yeah, it's the Devil May Cry Five thing, and it's one of the newer ones. It's cool, last fucking song. But what better place to play it when Dante first gets his Devil Trigger? There's no lyrics in that song which say my name is Nero and I'm getting my first Devil Trigger. 38:38 It's just a song with Devil Trigger in the title. And it's probably a nice reference to the voice actor playing Danter. Just like I've seen some people online going Eddie teasing a a Resident Evil anime spin off. No, because he has that line when he's chatting to what's his face, that guy gives him his jobs and when this is the worst job you've ever got me, he's like, oh, what about that time in Raccoon City? 39:03 Oh well, OK, second worst. I'm like, well, that's just a reference to Dante being a clone of Leon or an early prototype of Leon, because even in Devon May Cry 1, the character model is Leon Kennedy. You know, just that's how in development it was with his air changed a little bit. 39:23 But yeah, and like having it set in reconcile, Leon's first game being in reconcile. I think it's just a nice little reference the even through fucking that chick from Devil May Cry 2 in the Lucia, which was in which was a weird drop. Not Lucy has not been heard of in the Devil May Cry fandom for years since Devil May Cry 2 came out. 39:43 She was in that game then immediately never mentioned again. But yeah, do you know why they're going through all the demon hunters? This is some Reddit chick chick with a big scarf on her. She just like, I don't know, spit. So sometimes I'm like, Oh my God, Lucy. Yeah, cool. You know you can't say this guy's shitting on the fandom if he's referencing actually dog shit games. 40:03 Because Devil May Cry 2 is dog shit. I I would play DMCA million times over playing Devil May Cry 2. Gameplay is all right. Stories is great, Gameplay is great. 40:19 Speaker 2 Right. Well then say what it is. Don't poo poo it just because you don't like what it looks like. 40:23 Speaker 1 No, but it's the story that I can't. I like your the. 40:28 Speaker 2 Gameplay is all right, I guess. 40:31 Speaker 1 The way I I play game for story and gameplay anyway, I, I, I'll talk about DMC like how current people are talking about Devil May. Do you know, know when DMC first came out and everyone was angry? I was saying that's not Dante. 40:46 Dante doesn't act like that. Yeah, yeah, because it's not, it's a completely different character. Dante doesn't cost. Dante doesn't smoke. Or, you know, he's not Dante. 40:55 Speaker 2 Doesn't. 40:55 Speaker 1 Fork. Dante doesn't fork is not is not trying to be edgy and cool at all times. Whereas obviously DMC Dante is trying to be that sort of edge ward. But everyone rightfully complained about that because it's not. 41:10 They're complaining about this anime Dante in the new Netflix 1 like it's that one from DMC and then go it's going around again where people are saying, oh, maybe we judged DMC too harshly. Maybe that Dante was the better one. No, absolutely insane. 41:27 What timeline do I fucking live in now? I watched like the first batch of episodes. I was like really good, really clean animation. It's nice to see Kevin Conroy doing a voice that's not Batman doing a really good job as well. 41:43 He got to say Arkham. I mean that was nice for us. Which isn't a Batman Easter egg. It's just ladies, last name is Arkham. That's called Arkham. Oh yeah, cool. 41:53 Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a good show. 41:55 Speaker 1 Hope it gets to Season 28. 41:56 Speaker 2 Episodes in it as well. Yeah, very. 41:59 Speaker 1 Good, only half an hour pop as well. Easy watch. Easy, easy watch. Also I don't mind like the early 2000s new metal music that they just throw in there. I think it fits. Oh cool Papa Roach again. 42:14 Oh cool, Mr. Sick. 42:19 Speaker 2 Yeah. 42:19 Speaker 1 People are angry that there's not enough video game music in, but there is video game music in, though I recognise some of them. You don't want you know Devil May Cry, The Devils never cry, play at every fucking fight scene like it does in the games. Makes it up. Get some Evanescence and although Evanescence did record a brand new track for the show and it slaps and it feels very fitting to the show, I didn't know that. 42:41 Speaker 2 It was that they vote specific for the show. Just just because I'm not. 42:45 Speaker 1 Just an evanescence. 42:45 Speaker 2 Song. Evanescence. Discography. 42:48 Speaker 1 No same. 42:49 Speaker 2 I just assumed that yeah, it's just. 42:51 Speaker 1 I only know that fact because I'm like any news of any sort of Devil May Cry? I'm like, yeah I always said Devil May Cry anyway. It was always like a silly cheesy anime with its war of it and everything. I saw someone post a clip from the opening of Devil May Cry 3 from post. 43:09 This is how Dante should be. This is the real Dante. And you know what clip they showed? There's a bit in Democrat 3 where he's in his shop getting invaded by a bunch of demons. He slices his pool table in half, all the billiard balls fly in there. 43:24 Then he shoots the white ball with his gun and then it hits all the other balls and hits all the demons in the face. I'm like they did a very similar thing to that in the enemy. What the fuck you trying to prove? Oh no, this is a Dante. This is what Dante should be doing. He did things like that in the show. He didn't like the first episode. 43:40 Shut up, I'm angry at people. 43:44 Speaker 2 Yeah, June Reggie's machines, Gorilla Radio. Yeah. Hey, it worked. It was cool. Looking great. 43:52 Speaker 1 Yeah. 43:53 Speaker 2 Yeah, I was. I was bopping on because. 43:58 Speaker 1 Really nicely animated as well. Really nicely animated, clean, smooth. I like how all the demons are exclusive for like CGI as well. It like sort of like sets them apart. Like it gives them all the worldly quality. Like obviously all the humans and Dante will all be like hand drawn unless he's doing a big action bit maybe. 44:15 I think he's still hand drawn, but all the demons I just I've noticed they're all just exclusively CGI except for the rabbit. But yeah, pretty cool. All people are angry at like the the the demon generals that appear because they're all bosses from various games. The guy, the double the flame and wind guys from Devil May Cry 3, the big plant ladies from Devil May Cry 4 and the big night guy. 44:36 I guess it's called something Angelo. It's from Devil May Cry 5, but one when you do that, but because I did look up the boss fight ever after I I saw him and I was like, oh, I want to see that boss fight from DMC5 again. 44:52 Even even Dante is saying shit in that boss fight where he goes fucking he's referencing like he's met him before, even though at that point in the game we've never, we've never fought him or anything before. But Dante is saying like, Oh yeah, yeah, because he fought a lot of demons and shit in his history. I guess he's fought this guy before. 45:07 There's a lot of times when he kills demons in the games and they just come back in another game anyway, so you can't even say that maybe maybe you did fire them in this one and they all died and went back to hell and then reappeared in another fucking game because fucking demons. Can you really kill them? Yeah, appear. Just be mad for being mad sake. 45:25 Although the two I keep want to call them like Romulus and Remus, all Magny and Modi, but that's not what they call. They're called something else, some other twin names or in the game. I don't know if they'll do something like this in the anime, but in the game they don't have heads and their heads are located on the hilt of their sword. 45:42 And they they do talk and they are annoying and they are brothers. But then when Dante acquires them as a weapon, you just they sort of talk and then you just bump their heads together. But he does all the shit that he does in the honor. It's cool. I was wondering at some point maybe one of them will get the red cough. I don't know, maybe in season 2. 45:59 Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe, Maybe. 46:00 Speaker 1 What else you've been watching? 46:01 Speaker 2 I watched that. I watched, I watched a few series actually. You'll you'll be pleased about a couple of these. 46:08 Speaker 1 Let's get into it. 46:09 Speaker 2 Yes, this week I've watched Bill Maker.

Praising Animated Gems: Scavengers Reign and Blue Eye Samurai 46:11 I watched Stevens Ring. I watched Blue Ice on my I watched. Beef. I watched, but yeah, those are four series that. 46:21 Speaker 1 I don't know. Beef poo poo beef. Don't know it. 46:26 Speaker 2 Movies. I watched the Buffy the Vampire Slave movie. Yeah. And I watched Renfield as well. I watched a lot of things this week. 46:33 Speaker 1 You did no eternals. 46:35 Speaker 2 No, I actually forgot that that movie existed. 46:39 Speaker 1 Yeah, most people did. Most people forgot it existed when it was in the cinemas. It's understandable, but I didn't mind it. Scavengers reign. What do you think? 46:50 Speaker 2 Very good. It's, it's got a very, it's got a very fluid, but very simplistic, I think, animation style. 46:57 Speaker 1 I absolutely love it it. 46:59 Speaker 2 Looks really good. 47:00 Speaker 1 Clean I guess. 47:02 Speaker 2 Good, good story as well, to be honest. 47:04 Speaker 1 Shame that it's not going to get second season. Sorry to meet you watching, that's not going to get a conclusion but. 47:10 Speaker 2 I think, I think that I don't think anything needs a continuation and I think the way the scavengers rain and did, I don't think it necessarily need needs you. 47:18 Speaker 1 Don't need it, but I'd like more be. 47:21 Speaker 2 Nice too, but even though there's like, I wouldn't even say that it's a true Cliff either. Is it John? It is open to more things, but. 47:30 Speaker 1 Just like any. 47:31 Speaker 2 That is a decent ending for anyway. 47:33 Speaker 1 Just like any good sci-fi, just have it on a tragic ending anywhere, you know, it's fine. Just have things off in the open up. I remember watching it being in orbit. I felt like I had a very sort of like I was watching a nature documentary without any narration on it sometimes. 47:50 And, you know, just watching how things grow and move in this ecology economy. Yeah. Oh, the right word for it. Like infrastructure of like the nature and the animals and stuff. 48:05 Like it was a lot of yeah. Oh, that's. 48:08 Speaker 2 You would you would like with your first word ecology that is like. 48:13 Speaker 1 I don't fucking know. But yeah, like, I can't, I can't remember a lot. And he just since I see, you know, so when it first dropped on Netflix. But there's a bit when I think you just see that the life cycle of like a small creature and a flower, just like live and die and just exist and that that was its entire life or time frame or something. 48:30 Some woman's watching it, she's enamoured by maybe. I don't know. I can't remember if those evil doings going on. Yeah, it was good. I liked all the characters from what I remember. Like, what do you think about the one? Obviously the one that stuck out is like, I guess he was the villain of the piece, but what do you think about the guy who was just, like, kind of possessed by that frog? 48:48 Yeah, he was like. 48:49 Speaker 2 Oh wait, do you mean the guy with the captain of the ship who had the thing inside him? Because that was a power side, but it was it. 48:57 Speaker 1 Was no not a captain the. 48:58 Speaker 2 Hermiotic relationship between. 49:00 Speaker 1 Yeah, the guy who I can't. 49:01 Speaker 2 Remember what that guy's job was when he was on the ship? But. 49:05 Speaker 1 He was like a technician or something once. 49:08 Speaker 2 Yes. 49:09 Speaker 1 Something like that. But yeah, like he was like compelled to kill for this psychic frog. I guess just wait because I feel I feel like that psychic frog was only being a Dick because he got bullied by all the other psychic frogs. 49:21 Speaker 2 Koala but also a fuck. 49:26 Speaker 1 Psychic thing, you know? Yeah. 49:27 Speaker 2 Yeah. But yeah, I don't necessarily think that he was the villain of the piece, because his story is just as tragic as. 49:35 Speaker 1 Everyone else, yeah, everyone got a tragic story. I really did feel for the guy who did have the parasite in him. I think he was one of my favorite characters that in the robot I remember I feel like it's not, but in my head when I try and think about the guy who had the parasite inside him was voiced by Nick Offerman, but I don't think he is. But he feels like he should be. 49:51 He feels like he should be he. 49:52 Speaker 2 Is that kind of character He's, he's a Nick Offerman. 49:55 Speaker 1 Character, yeah. He's the archetype of the mustachioed leader guy who will survive in nature. Yeah. Not Yeah, he's a very tragic, terrible, beautifully animated, so fucking good. And then it's one of those things that like, because it was a Warner Brothers thing and it was during the time alone, they were just cutting everything and cancelling everything. 50:11 They were all like, get it off my platform, I don't want it. David Zavloff was all like, no, you're not getting a season 2 fuck out of here put on Netflix or something when Netflix do a season 2 of it. Yeah, if you get enough views on it. Didn't get views, but it won so many awards tough. 50:29 I guess really good animation storytelling isn't rewarded. But saying that, if that show didn't get cancelled or if it did go straight into production season 2, we wouldn't have common side effects, which is a very similar emination style, but different because it's not like the people don't look as realistic. 50:50 But it's got that clean, thin pencilness to it. You know, that muted palette. I guess I don't know I would have any screenshot of scavengers rain in a frame on the cube wall. I just think it looks beautiful. Or on my phone screensaver blue eye samurai. 51:07 What do you think? Who? 51:09 Speaker 2 Knows fuck. 51:10 Speaker 1 Internet. Yeah, really good. You know, when you watch these shows, you angry that you didn't watch them sooner? Are you not bothered? 51:16 Speaker 2 I'm not too bothered about tabasa because what it means is is that I mean well, I don't think I'd have to wait weekly anyway. 51:23 Speaker 1 No, they all dropped all at once on Netflix. Same with scavengers. 51:26 Speaker 2 No, I'm not. I'm not too bothered that I didn't consume all this stuff earlier. I I'm always like that because like when I can, when I. 51:31 Speaker 1 First watched Everything Everywhere all at once. I was angry at myself. I didn't watch it earlier. I was like, oh fuck, I mean like not for I missed out because I'm still watching it. But it's like one of those things like, you know, you keep telling yourself, you keep hearing things, it's good, and then you're finally watching it like fuck, it is good shit. 51:48 Oh well. 51:49 Speaker 2 I should have watched this earlier. 51:51 Speaker 1 I could have been happy then remember 6 months. 51:55 Speaker 3 Ago when I was depressed. 51:57 Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm still depressed, but I'm watching Blue Eye Samurai and it's cool as fuck. What did you think of the Japanese rendition of Whom the Bell Tolls? Really fucking cool. 52:11 Speaker 2 Like. 52:12 Speaker 1 Pump pumped me up. Oh yeah, you murder those guys. Japanese Mulan. 52:21 Speaker 3 It it does like it doesn't do a lot of it. 52:23 Speaker 2 But it it like plays the only when she's looking up at the castle. Yeah. And then he sobs. And I thought, oh do I not get anymore And then it it played. 52:33 Speaker 3 Again when she was fighting. 52:35 Speaker 2 That that giant of a man in those. Yeah, but it fit dramatically very well to what what I was watching. There is going to be a second season of Blue Eyed. 52:44 Speaker 1 Samurai. But because of the way animation is and the way Netflix is with the things they are, they delight to greenlit shows. If it does well, usually an animation show would work. They'd make Save Us, The Simpsons or something. They make three seasons in advance because they know they're going to get renewed. 53:00 They always know they're going to get renewed. So they make episodes in advance. Back in the day, they'd make episodes in advance for the next season, like two or three episodes, but they'd never get shown if the show was cancelled. They're like, oh, we did do more episodes of this show, but it got cancelled. So nobody sees them. Whereas no Netflix, they're all like, we'll only green light you if you do good enough. 53:19 So one, you've got to get the animation out, have people watch it, Wait three months to Netflix to go thumbs up, you can do a second season. It's a long fucking process, especially when you want to do something stylized like blue eyed Samurai anally because it's like to me, Christmas storybook pictures animation. 53:39 That's what it looks like, like a children's nice pencilly shaded that I don't know how you describe it, because it's not like anime style, is it? No, no, I think, I think a lot. 53:51 Speaker 2 Of it is. Love it, CJ. Anyway, yeah, it's CGI, but it's made to look. 53:57 Speaker 1 Too deep, but God it's good. I need to. 54:01 Speaker 2 Rewatch that show. 54:02 Speaker 1 Essentially though, because I only just. 54:05 Speaker 2 Watched it, I have less time to wait for next season. True. When they announce some of the season I'll see a trailer for. 54:10 Speaker 1 Another season I will rewatch it because then I'll be hyped and I go, I want to catch up because we live in the day where we have to wait 3-3 years for a new season or something. I'm going to have to rewatch All the Stranger. 54:22 Speaker 2 Things for when that. 54:22 Speaker 1 Season finally drops this year. I'm not doing that. 54:27 Speaker 2 It's all like 6. 54:28 Speaker 3 Episodes each in it I can no. 54:30 Speaker 1 It must be more than that must be more than. 54:32 Speaker 2 6 I can remember it's more like 10 per. 54:35 Speaker 1 Season I can remember the. 54:37 Speaker 2 Big plot points of each. 54:38 Speaker 1 Season, but I'd like to go back and rewatch it yeah, but that's that's what matters in it yeah like. 54:43 Speaker 2 True, I know that I can remember. 54:45 Speaker 1 Enough. 54:46 Speaker 2 And I'm confident that you can remember enough that yeah, I'm gonna watch this next season and be like, who's that 11? I was. I was. 54:58 Speaker 3 Going it's going to be a toss up between 11:00 and. 55:00 Speaker 1 Vechner. Sorry, the water. 55:03 Speaker 3 Gorgon. I didn't know Joseph. 55:05 Speaker 1 Quinn was in this. Well, he's not. You're not telling me there won't be. 55:10 Speaker 3 Any sort of reference? 55:11 Speaker 2 To him in the next season there'll be a reference to him, but he like like I'm in memoriam. 55:15 Speaker 1 Bit yeah, like or there's like a picture of him or something. They're not. 55:18 Speaker 2 Going to bring him back, Yeah, they're not going to. 55:20 Speaker 1 Resurrect him. No, you're right, but. 55:22 Speaker 2 That doesn't mean that he's no deleted from all the Stranger Things, does he? You know what I mean? They don't mention him by name, but they don't go, hey, don't that go. 55:30 Speaker 1 Like Johnny Storm? What? 55:34 Speaker 3 You know I mean. 55:35 Speaker 1 Enough times passed. We're in the 2010 snow, 2020. But yeah, look at that is.

Exploring A24's 'Beef' and The Rock's New Role 55:45 That Mike's mum, Be the better and just play a good mum. 55:53 Speaker 1 Because she could play my mum. Oh shit, I didn't know David Harbour was in this flick. 56:00 Speaker 3 A guy from the thunderballs? Cool. 56:03 Speaker 1 Oh, he's even in this. I was going to say Jodie Foster. 56:07 Speaker 3 But it's not Jodie Foster is. 56:08 Speaker 1 It God, am I thinking of we're known a rider, yeah. 56:13 Speaker 2 We're known a rider. 56:16 Speaker 1 Yeah. 56:17 Speaker 3 What are you doing in this? What's beef? 56:20 Speaker 1 Beef. Is it an anime? No 10 episodes. I think it is drama. 56:24 Speaker 2 What drama? 56:26 Speaker 1 Comedy, it's beef. It's like a. 56:29 Speaker 2 Depressing comedy. Love them but. 56:33 Speaker 1 I don't know when it came out like. 56:35 Speaker 2 Two years ago, a year ago or something like that, I saw like trailer for it, like a clip for it and I was a bit like, no, I don't know if I'm interested in that. I don't think I'll watch it. I only watched it this week because it was craving beef but I just didn't want to eat You're so. 56:50 Speaker 1 Hungry but I. 56:52 Speaker 2 Didn't want to cook. I was flicking through Netflix. Oh. 56:57 Speaker 1 Fuck do I samurai scavenger track. It's not beef. 57:06 Speaker 3 If I watch that, maybe it's. 57:07 Speaker 1 Like I'm eating it, so I saw. 57:12 Speaker 2 No, this is something that I would like to consume. More love, pun intended. What's the name? What's the actress's name in beef? 57:24 Speaker 1 Why do you want to consume? No, no, no. What I'm saying is. 57:28 Speaker 2 Is that it's an A-24 production. So I was like. So I was like, I do want to consume. 57:34 Speaker 1 More of their. 57:35 Speaker 2 Stuff. Yeah, and my cursor is hovering. 57:38 Speaker 1 Over it I might. 57:39 Speaker 2 As well. Start here. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. It's a 10 part season. I don't think it will get renewed for more. And I don't think it absolutely doesn't need it either. Yeah. But yeah, it's about these two Korean people from different walks of life that still may have beef with each other. 57:57 Is that right? It's got beef. That's fucking sick. 58:01 Speaker 1 Genuinely really good well of. 58:02 Speaker 3 Course it's good, it's 8. 58:03 Speaker 2 24I. 58:07 Speaker 3 Don't know if you know this but 824. Oh shit. 58:10 Speaker 1 I can't remember the fucking. 58:11 Speaker 3 Actor's. 58:12 Speaker 2 Name you said? Korean or Japanese? 58:15 Speaker 1 Korean the the the guy that played Glenn. 58:18 Speaker 2 In The Walking Dead, Invincible. Yeah. Yeah. Do you? 58:22 Speaker 1 Mean the guy. 58:23 Speaker 2 Not the guy who played Glenn Walking Dead. 58:25 Speaker 1 Do you mean the guy who just didn't use too much of A slice on his? He cut off too small a slice when he wiped his bum because he did a big old sloppy mud pie? Stephen Yan is it first might be Stephen Yan. 58:45 Stephen. 58:45 Speaker 3 Something Yan Yung in it. It smelled. 58:48 Speaker 1 Like, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, I know. 58:49 Speaker 2 Something more like that Yun. 58:51 Speaker 1 Yan what? 58:52 Speaker 2 Is Steven? Yeah. 58:53 Speaker 1 Would never guess to Stephen why. 58:58 Speaker 3 Why? 58:58 Speaker 1 Wouldn't you Anyway he he's one of the main characters. 59:02 Speaker 2 He's he's one of the people that's got. I just hope Lev's OK. 59:09 Speaker 3 I was genuinely shocked when he popped up in that. 59:12 Speaker 1 Light episode. Oh my God. 59:16 Speaker 2 Yeah, he's he's one of the guys that has beef. Let my wife eat the receipt. 59:23 Speaker 3 Keep interrupting you with, I think. 59:26 Speaker 1 You should leave moments with Stephen Yun. Yeah. Voice is invincible, don't I? Yeah. 59:33 Speaker 2 Yeah, he does, yeah. 59:35 Speaker 1 Yunny and Ali Wong is the person that he has. 59:39 Speaker 2 A beef with Who's Ali Wong? She's a. 59:42 Speaker 1 Comedian. 59:44 Speaker 2 By trade, you see, she did that special where she was her pregnant. I'm pretty sure that that was all I wanted. See, now I'm thinking of I might be dead longer. 59:53 Speaker 1 About that now if I'm. 59:55 Speaker 2 Thinking about it because she's not even Korean, but I don't think. 59:57 Speaker 1 She's Korean. But now I'm thinking of Aquafina, who is a comedian by trade. Who? You know Aquafina, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. 1:00:06 Speaker 3 Yeah. Is Aquafina in it not sold? 1:00:10 Speaker 1 Not so. Not so, not. 1:00:11 Speaker 3 So not so love. 1:00:12 Speaker 1 Love a bit of Aquafina. She's funny. Right to a name. Shang Chi. Shang Chi in it. The character Shang Chi. Yeah. It's not. It's not. 1:00:23 Speaker 2 Fighting the Ten Rings. 1:00:24 Speaker 1 Is it not got beef with a Mandarin man? I mean Shang Chi has beef with the Mandalorian. I forget the plot of Shang. 1:00:35 Speaker 3 Chi and the Legend of the 10. 1:00:36 Speaker 1 Rings. Yeah, really good. If I'll be honest with you, I didn't know it was an A 24 thing. Is it Netflix? Yeah, definitely going to get on my watch list. 1:00:44 Speaker 2 And then I'll. 1:00:45 Speaker 1 Watch it about I'm angry that I didn't watch this sooner like I do with every A 24 film, I hope. I don't know if they're going that way because they're doing a lot of things fast, but I have never seen an A 24 film that's been bad straight up. There's been films that I've watched that I've not realized were a 24 films. 1:01:03 And then when I've got that film was fucking good and I've researched it like you do after you really like a film and then a 24 pops up in the production. I'm like, of course, of course, I fucking love it. It's not the best thing I've ever. I've never seen the mess, but I am worried that they'll get that way where they might. 1:01:21 Do you know what I mean? There's AII don't like Dwayne The Rock Johnson as an actor. There is an A-24 film coming out where he's in it and it's like a serious role for him and like, if you can pull it off, it might be good. He's got her in it. He already looks different, but he's playing a boxer, so he's playing something that he knows, I guess, you know, So it could be OK. 1:01:39 But that's the first one where I'm thinking I don't know me. That's because I don't like The Rock as a person. I think is a prick and I don't want my A-24. 1:01:49 Speaker 2 Producers working with. 1:01:50 Speaker 1 Pricks, but time will tell. 1:01:54 Speaker 3 And it might be you. 1:01:55 Speaker 1 Know what the rocks genuinely good in this right, but from the screenshots and it looks fine, but I don't want to be like do you remember when bloomhouse first started as like the the go to horror guys and it was like, oh, it's fucking bloomhouse. It's gonna be good. It's gonna be spooky. 1:02:12 Absolute Spooks with Bloomhouse. 1:02:13 Speaker 3 And then after about like. 1:02:15 Speaker 1 They started doing four or five films a year. No bloomers are blue mouse shit. Low budget, low money, shitty story. What's this one called? The Lady on the Chair? I shit, you know, they've just done a film called Like There's a Lady on a Bench and they asked. That's what it's called. 1:02:31 It's called Bears a Lady on a bench. 1:02:35 Speaker 2 I'm going to look it up. It's. 1:02:36 Speaker 3 Something like that you. 1:02:38 Speaker 1 Know, I think, I think you are right. I did. 1:02:43 Speaker 3 I did hear you, love. 1:02:44 Speaker 2 Something like that. And I remember thinking, well, that's a shy tale. 1:02:53 Speaker 3 Oh, right, I was so close. It's called the woman. 1:02:56 Speaker 1 In the yard, and I'll tell you what she doesn't have in this yard milkshakes. So I won't be going. Absolutely not. 1:03:04 Speaker 2 Anyway, from what I know about. 1:03:05 Speaker 1 It there's a woman in the yard. That's the film. Oh, no, there's a woman over there. What's she doing in our yard? Walks over. She's not. 1:03:15 Speaker 3 The some of these big. 1:03:17 Speaker 1 Well I don't know if I saw a full trailer or just a clip. 1:03:20 Speaker 2 It looks pretty spooky. Thing is, with blue mouse's model they will always make. 1:03:24 Speaker 1 Money, they make the films for less than 10 million. That's their model. Even if like nobody sees it, if it, if it's if it only makes like 50 million or whatever, you know, if it's what would be considered a flop, they've profited massively. 1:03:44 And because it's profited, definitely, then they get more budget for a fucking sequel, you know, and what not, and they always do. And then they just keep churning out these fucking horror things. And it's a factory now. And I'm like, I want a 24 to go like that.

The Silly Rules and Lore of Vampires in Buffy 1:03:54 Because they do keep things relatively on the cheap side as well, but they don't have much mass appeal. They're usually more like pretentiously, I guess I'll always catch them years later saying that they have mass appeal. Everything Everywhere All At Once did win all of the fucking Oscars, and rightfully so. 1:04:09 Did you ever see it? Fucking brilliant. Made me cry many times, but rocks so fucking good. Yeah, another really good one that I watched I didn't realize was an A 24 film was called The Green Man. I think it's got the Green Man. It's about a woman. 1:04:25 She goes to a fucking, she moves to the countryside just for like a month or something just to get away from it all. And every, every man in the town is playing by the same answer really. It's not the Green Man. Although The Green Man I think is also an A 24 film but I can't remember what the one I'm on a bit is called. 1:04:42 I I have been thinking about this recently. I wonder if there is some sort of a collection I can just get and just stack them all up. Give me all the A 24. Yummy yummy yummy. She's gaggling on an A20. 1:04:56 Speaker 3 4 Jeez. 1:04:59 Speaker 1 I got enough of it. But yeah, I'm hoping Death of the Unicorn. I've heard like mixed things about Death of the Unicorn, but I'm hoping it's going to be OK because Unicorn in it, whatever. Fine. But you say 24, so it might be good. We think of a Buffy film. 1:05:15 Enjoyed it. Silly. Oh yeah, silly. Like every character in the is. 1:05:20 Speaker 2 A stereotype, You know what I mean? Or peak 90s. Yeah, peak 90s. 1:05:25 Speaker 1 Silliness. Yeah. Yeah. Was it a serious film or was it a comedy or was it a spoof? Because there are moments in that film where you're like, this is chotting on the lines of Naked Gun level silly spoof. I think it's in the realm of spoof. I don't think it was meant I. 1:05:40 Speaker 2 Think that's why Josh Reed ended up doing. 1:05:42 Speaker 1 The TV series because it was disappointed with the way how the film turned out. Because the TV show is not as silly as the film, is it? True? But I mean I've I've only just started watching it again. 1:05:53 Speaker 2 I know Josh Reed and produced both and I know he was unhappy about how the film. 1:05:56 Speaker 1 Turned out or the final cut of the film anyway. I would say though from from these first four. 1:06:02 Speaker 2 Episodes that I've watched so far. Yeah, fair enough. It's not on the same level as what the movie was, but everyone is still a stereotype. Yeah, but is it right? It's very much within the same vein there's. 1:06:12 Speaker 1 Not a great deal of difference. 1:06:13 Speaker 2 Between them both but it there's there's moments in the film when so you. 1:06:17 Speaker 1 Got the cheerleading girls and they're like, come on Buffy, help us make these fucking banners and Buffy's like you know what, there's better things to do in life. Like, you know, you know, like what you're hanging about with that fucking dirty fucking boy because he listens to, like, alternative music and stuff. 1:06:34 Like you screw you guys. Anyway, high school gets invaded by vampires and no one kind of gives a shit. You've got that. People are dead in the on the floor of high school. They've even been killed by a vampire or they just are a dead vampire. And he's giving out detention, slips to corpses. 1:06:51 Yeah. What's that about something silly in it? And is it Rutger? 1:06:56 Speaker 2 Hauer is Rutger Hauer in it? Yeah, yeah. 1:06:59 Speaker 1 Insane. Yeah, he he plays a head vampire, Yeah. 1:07:04 Speaker 2 What do you think of Paul Reubens? He was. 1:07:08 Speaker 1 He was the one who had the Pee Wee Herman in it. He was the one who had the very, very, very silly death. Yeah. Yeah. Why? Because it's a. 1:07:19 Speaker 2 Spoof. It's a comedy, but it. 1:07:20 Speaker 1 Didn't feel like it was. 1:07:21 Speaker 2 There's moments where it doesn't feel. 1:07:23 Speaker 1 Like that, I don't, I don't know if you just look around for the post credit scene. Yeah, he's there again. 1:07:28 Speaker 2 Still dying. He's just. 1:07:34 Speaker 3 I reckon that was him just doing a bit and then whoever. 1:07:37 Speaker 1 Was directing it because I'm not just reading. Didn't direct it and whoever was directing it just went you know what I know that makes no sense to this sort of film that we do in just keep it in. I disagree with you. I I don't think that. 1:07:51 Speaker 2 Was written to be the at all. I think that was made-up on the spot. 1:07:54 Speaker 1 And they, I think that was made-up on the spot and they just. 1:07:57 Speaker 3 Ran with it and they're like, you know. 1:07:58 Speaker 1 What? Fuck it, I don't think. But genuinely, I don't think. 1:08:02 Speaker 2 That it's outside of of the rest of the movie. I don't think the see you're you're also presenting it as this is an anomaly to this serious action drama. I know it was. That's not what this movie is at all. Imagine all of Lord. 1:08:16 Speaker 1 Of the. 1:08:16 Speaker 2 Rings and then that's so sour on girls well he. 1:08:27 Speaker 3 Was like he just that bit when he just, I think just. 1:08:30 Speaker 1 Send an e-mail to. 1:08:31 Speaker 2 Peter Jackson to ask him why he didn't do it. What's that bit when he's like, is he like kicking on the walls? Is he? 1:08:37 Speaker 1 Kicking the wall backwards, that's why. 1:08:45 Speaker 3 I don't. 1:08:46 Speaker 2 Know if I liked it I feel. 1:08:47 Speaker 3 Like that I I. 1:08:48 Speaker 1 I don't, I'm not saying the film was serious. There was a comedy element to it, but I don't, I think it wasn't up until that point I couldn't think of another moment that is Naked Gun level spoof. Yeah, every single it. 1:09:02 Speaker 2 Did get spoofed towards the end when all the when all the bamboos? 1:09:05 Speaker 1 To a degree every. 1:09:08 Speaker 2 Vampire in that movie is an absolute goofball. What was the no that that was the first moment. 1:09:14 Speaker 1 The first moment, because obviously when I I've not seen the film since I was like a child and even then I don't remember it. The first moment what made me go hang on, what the fuck is this film trying to be is when you've got the two, you've got the two grungy lads, aren't you? 1:09:30 His best mate gets bit by a vampire and then he flies up to his bedroom window. He's like, let me in. And then the guy's like, no, no, sees that he's flying. Oh come on, mate, let me in. Just want to suck on your butt. No, go away. Like it's nothing. The guy's floated and he's he thinks his friend died. 1:09:47 Well, whatever, there he is. Just no, no, just don't, no piss off. Also, it's weird that they're as silly as they are. They really hold to that lore of it. They have to be invited in. Do they do that in the TV show? 1:10:02 They stick with that. Yeah. Yeah. That must be very easy to like squat vampires. Yeah. Just because they can't get. 1:10:10 Speaker 3 You in the sun's out is is. 1:10:12 Speaker 2 The same just go home before he's done were. 1:10:15 Speaker 1 A hazmat. 1:10:16 Speaker 2 Suit or something or a big hoodie. 1:10:17 Speaker 1 That covers all your body. Is it one of those masks that zip up your full face? Vampires Like let me in that soup. No. Let me in your hoodie. I'm cold. No, I am by law not see I vampire a lot. 1:10:34 I'm not allowed to attack. 1:10:35 Speaker 3 You because you are in. 1:10:36 Speaker 1 A thing where? Where does that line? 1:10:41 Speaker 3 I don't know where where. 1:10:42 Speaker 1 The actual, obviously, it probably comes from the original text or something like the original rules. Who have? Don't think Bram Stalker invented vampires, did she? That's Dracula. Yeah. Still a vampire. I thought Bram Stalker was a guy. I'm thinking of Mary Shelley, yeah. 1:10:55 Speaker 2 Anyway. 1:10:56 Speaker 1 Like if I got a big cardboard box and I drew like a door on it and and I cut a door out and I just wore that and watched around with that. And I then say from vampires constantly. I have a little window so I can see it obviously. 1:11:13 Like where does it extend to? How silly can I get with it because I think I would rather walk around with a cardboard. 1:11:20 Speaker 2 House and some. 1:11:21 Speaker 1 Garlic around my neck but like vampires also can't cross. 1:11:25 Speaker 2 Running water, can't they? Yeah. It's something that taps on in your eyes, you know they can. They It's like they can't cross a running. 1:11:35 Speaker 1 Stream. 1:11:35 Speaker 2 Into. 1:11:36 Speaker 1 I don't really, I don't know if it works for like indoor plumbing and it's like, oh, if there's water that's. 1:11:42 Speaker 3 Going through a pipe that they. 1:11:43 Speaker 1 Cannot see. Flush the toilet there quick because. 1:11:48 Speaker 2 If you want to, if you want to take. 1:11:49 Speaker 3 It to those extremes. 1:11:50 Speaker 2 They shouldn't be able to walk around. 1:11:51 Speaker 1 Town entirely, because there's all sorts of flowing water going through plumbing system and pipes. Yeah, the fucking sewers are always underneath us and they're always flowing with, like, shitty water. The water vampire should. The forest is the only thing they can move in. 1:12:06 Yeah, during the night. That's it. They're essentially just night monkeys. 1:12:19 Speaker 3 New. 1:12:19 Speaker 2 Vampire Slur just dropped. 1:12:24 Speaker 1 Hey, let me bite. 1:12:25 Speaker 3 Let me bite your neck A. 1:12:26 Speaker 1 Bit oh fuck off you fucking night monkey. No, I don't like it it's so bad. A horrible slur apology. I swore vampires. Oh. 1:12:40 Speaker 3 My God. 1:12:41 Speaker 1 Yeah, just want to. 1:12:44 Speaker 2 Make a quick apology. Sorry, I don't. I don't. I don't think you're night monkeys. 1:12:49 Speaker 1 I don't think about what I said I'll. 1:12:53 Speaker 3 I'll hold myself to a better standard in future. 1:12:56 Speaker 1 No, OK, the running water thing is something that usually gets lost in modern vampire stories, even in vampire even like I think in lost Boys, which did hold to the the car let them in and stuff like that. I think it's just awkward to just keep it cuz I far do you stretch just like me with a cardboard box on a door? 1:13:14 I think that that would it should be a river, and that's what it should. 1:13:17 Speaker 2 Be it should just be vampires. 1:13:18 Speaker 1 Can't cross a river even if there's a bridge. A Moat. Not only am I gonna not let you in, I'm gonna Moat. I think it would be interesting as. 1:13:29 Speaker 3 A concept for like a movie though. 1:13:31 Speaker 2 Why people don't think that vampires exist anymore? Yeah, it's because of all these rules or all these regulations that vampires have to follow, so modern society and everything, not physically get into a city. 1:13:45 Speaker 1 All the time anymore running. 1:13:46 Speaker 2 Water everywhere. Yeah, so. 1:13:49 Speaker 1 The world just bored hanging. 1:13:51 Speaker 2 Out in the fucking Fort, starving. Wait, yeah. 1:13:55 Speaker 1 Waiting for like, I don't know, romantic. 1:13:57 Speaker 3 Walks in the park I guess. 1:13:58 Speaker 1 But even then, like, if you're in like New York City, Central Parks, I'm probably sure there's still a lot of sewage plumbing going underneath the park. Yeah, from all the buildings and stuff. It's all. I'm sure there's a bunch of shit flowing underneath. That's it. Look at what the turtles live. They live in it. Yeah, yeah. 1:14:16 Speaker 2 But vampires can get wet though, yeah? 1:14:23 Speaker 3 That just sounds like I just said vampires can get wet and then we just laughed at. 1:14:27 Speaker 1 Something just a cheeky visual. Georgia 3. 1:14:32 Speaker 2 Yeah. 1:14:33 Speaker 3 Vampires can get wet. 1:14:35 Speaker 1 They're not going to like, multiply into more vampires. 1:14:37 Speaker 3 If you get them wet. 1:14:40 Speaker 1 What happens if you feed a vampire after midnight, I mean. 1:14:42 Speaker 3 That's. 1:14:43 Speaker 1 The preferable tattoo, isn't it? Well, yeah. 1:14:46 Speaker 2 Well, you can do it just before. 1:14:47 Speaker 1 Midnight. I mean at 9:00 essentially in winter at any time as long. 1:14:54 Speaker 2 As they're not in direct sunlight. Yeah true, true. Then yeah, they can feed I. 1:14:58 Speaker 1 Bet the Amazon rainforest is. 1:14:59 Speaker 2 Like rife with the. 1:15:01 Speaker 1 Or that tree cover. Vampires would be great. There are all those animals which are going on. Yeah, but not little rivers. There are little rivers. Yeah, but not running under the Amazon itself. Well, no, but they can walk on bits of land. Yeah, but even even like a straight line will. 1:15:18 Speaker 2 Become a maze for the word, saying that even like back in wooden days, they like most of like this country. 1:15:23 Speaker 1 England is intersect and caught with rivers. They'd really be confined like most tones are like sectioned off with like canals and rivers and stuff. They'd literally be stuck. How strict is that rock? It's not in the original right in like the original vampire story. 1:15:39 Speaker 3 Like Dracula. 1:15:40 Speaker 1 Gets transported to like a different country on a boat, don't it? And that's right. I don't isn't like that famous story like the voyage of whatever, whatever. And then it's just the story is essentially just Dracula on a boat or Nosferatu on a boat. There was a film about it as well. But if that's in the original text like so I don't understand the crossing water rule. 1:15:58 Can it get transported across river as cargo? I think so. I think we can't. 1:16:04 Speaker 2 Cross River unless we're cargo like. 1:16:09 Speaker 3 There's there's rules for how. 1:16:12 Speaker 2 They can travel as well, so like, say they have to have somewhere where they can sleep and rest. So they're coughing right between the hours of two and three. They can only skip. I don't. 1:16:23 Speaker 1 Know why they just can't so they have to take their coughing with 7 and 9 hop. 1:16:31 Speaker 3 Another release is that. 1:16:33 Speaker 2 For them in odds to get rest within their own coffin, they need dirt from where they are from originally. Oh God. There's a lot of silly rules that a lot of the vampire lore ignores these. 1:16:44 Speaker 1 Days, and rightly so, because it's hard to keep track of. Yeah, they're going to keep track of and it just boxes you in. Do you know what I mean? 1:16:50 Speaker 2 And you can't really do what sauce all you'd want to do. The more you tell me about all these rules, they're not that threatening. 1:17:00 Speaker 3 Oh, you want to go to bed? I've got a bit of. 1:17:02 Speaker 2 Yoda, I'm just going to. 1:17:04 Speaker 1 Dig a little MO and put it. Just put it on. 1:17:09 Speaker 3 It or just. 1:17:10 Speaker 1 Put it in a. 1:17:10 Speaker 3 Jar and throw it in the sea and get. 1:17:12 Speaker 1 That, you bastard. No, I think they can cross the sea because that's not considered running water. I think it's I think it's more rivers and streams and canals and shit. I think they can cross the. 1:17:23 Speaker 2 Ocean on a boat. 1:17:25 Speaker 1 The Ocean's flowing, but it does mean like a. 1:17:27 Speaker 2 Stream thing. 1:17:28 Speaker 1 But pipes and plumbing would be the same thing because that is flowing water. But the Ocean's fine, I guess. Also vampires. Entitled tones then, because then they can sort of go out from the sea, I guess. Did you ever see a show called Midnight Mass? 1:17:45 So Mickey Flanagan when he did Haunting of Hill House. 1:17:47 Speaker 3 And Bligh Manor. 1:17:51 Speaker 1 Midnight Mass is really good. It's a. 1:17:52 Speaker 2 Vampire story about it's this small. 1:17:54 Speaker 1 Town. It's like this little coastal town, it's on an island on its own. It's really fucking good. Definitely get it watched.

Mike Flanagan's Dread and Nicolas Cage's Acting Spectrum 1:18:00 I've not seen every Mickey Flanagan horror shenanigans thing I've seen. 1:18:07 Speaker 3 Hill House. 1:18:08 Speaker 1 Bligh Manor, I've seen that too. I've seen. Midnight Mass I've not seen. 1:18:13 Speaker 2 Midnight. 1:18:13 Speaker 1 Club, which is another one he did, which is about people telling horror stories, but they're all on like death row or something. And then there's the host, The Fall of the House of Usher, That's all of Mickey Flanagan's Netflix, Not Mickey Flanagan, it's Mike Flanagan. I just think it's funny to say Mickey Flanagan's horror shenanigans. 1:18:31 He did the sequel to The Shining as well. If you ever saw that I know what it was called, it's good. 1:18:40 Speaker 3 Ewan McGregor played Danny. 1:18:41 Speaker 1 Torres and it was really good. From what I remember, that was a Mickey Flanagan. He's a good horror director. He's I think he's one of the best. To be fair, every time his name pops up, it makes me go, oh, because he never does the thing that a lot of shitty horrors do, which is like low noises and jump skirts generally puts the feeling of dread in you, which is what you want. 1:19:01 That's exactly what I want. 1:19:05 Speaker 2 Yeah. 1:19:08 Speaker 1 But Speaking of. 1:19:09 Speaker 2 Vampires. I lost Renfield as well. Oh yeah, you did. I was that. 1:19:14 Speaker 1 Yeah, I need to watch that. Nicholas Holt as Renfield. 1:19:19 Speaker 2 Nicholas Cage. Nicholas Cage It was not Renfield. 1:19:22 Speaker 1 As yeah, yeah. 1:19:25 Speaker 2 As. 1:19:26 Speaker 1 Dracula. 1:19:27 Speaker 3 And. 1:19:28 Speaker 2 As a selling point for you, how confused is it? Sold, Sold sold with Nicolas Cage Draken on set like the director and. 1:19:35 Speaker 1 Nick and like Renfield and Dracula were like what? Which one? Or Dracon? Nicolas Cage was like one. That's confusing, whether he's a good actor or not. 1:19:48 Speaker 3 Nick Cage and Nick Holboff look at each other. Nicolas Cage is like, well, I have the Oscar. 1:19:58 Speaker 1 Bad Nick Cage impression. I took a running running running shot at it. But yeah, he does have Oscars. 1:20:06 Speaker 2 Nicholas Cage. 1:20:07 Speaker 1 Rather than Nicholas Holt does. So by that logic, Nicolas Cage is the better actor. He's been in more things, yeah. More things, yeah. And he generally he's. 1:20:14 Speaker 2 A good actor, he just does a lot. 1:20:15 Speaker 1 Of silly fucking stuff. He just does shit that he likes. Yeah, pay off those massive debts I'm not going to get. 1:20:23 Speaker 3 Into whether Nick Cage isn't good or bad. 1:20:26 Speaker 2 Actor, because he's this, he, he's the only actor on the planet, I think. The and and and. He's the only actor on the planet, I think. 1:20:35 Speaker 1 That exists and of. 1:20:42 Speaker 2 I don't think you've seen, I don't think you've seen Good Nick Cage. 1:20:45 Speaker 1 Films. 1:20:48 Speaker 2 You just did. Nicolas Cage is the only actor that's ever lived. And everyone. 1:20:51 Speaker 1 Else that's how good he is. He is. So he's the only one that exists? 1:20:56 Speaker 3 Within this plane. 1:20:57 Speaker 2 Of all, all acting, the he is both incredible and also really fucking share. There's there's no other actor ever or there will ever be, I don't think because Nick Cage himself, like I I agree with you. 1:21:14 You have that. 1:21:16 Speaker 1 Like, there's very specific things about. 1:21:17 Speaker 2 Him and he's mostly it's, it's, it's his personality that shines through in every single role he does. And because no other actor has that type of personality to them either. But he is dog shit. But the same time I fucking love watching him. Yeah. 1:21:33 And I love a lot of the stuff that he does. It's fucking shy. But then it'll go bang and it'll turn on this. Oh my God, did you see Weatherman? Did you see Lord of War? 1:21:43 Speaker 1 Fuck, they were good and it'll just turn on acting and it'll be. 1:21:48 Speaker 2 The best performance that you'll see for the next few years, you know what I mean? But then it'll go back to being this fucking weirdo. 1:21:59 Speaker 3 Where he is just playing himself. Yeah. And it's the. 1:22:02 Speaker 2 Same in this, where he's being Dracula, where half the time he's he, he just put on an accent. It's a decent accent, right? And that's, you know, I am, I am being genuine about that. Who's the better Dracula, Nick Cage or Adam Sandler? 1:22:15 Speaker 1 But every so often, and this is throughout the movie. 1:22:19 Speaker 2 The accent will drop a little bit and he'll be going. That's right. I'm not going to do it. Yeah. Why the fuck No. Yeah, woo. And then he'll turn acting back on and he'll put it right. 1:22:40 Why? Agree with you. 1:22:41 Speaker 3 That really good movie though. 1:22:43 Speaker 1 If I'll be honest, yeah, no, I'm definitely. 1:22:45 Speaker 2 Going to watch. I want to watch the violence. 1:22:47 Speaker 1 Incredibly silly I'm. 1:22:49 Speaker 2 Really funny. I'm good with silly hyper violence. 1:22:53 Speaker 1 Oh shit, what's his fucking? 1:22:54 Speaker 2 Name Nicholas Cage dapping him up all day. 1:22:58 Speaker 1 Ben Schwartz is in there as well, OK. 1:23:01 Speaker 2 Sonic the Hedgehog. 1:23:04 Speaker 1 No, I would say some legacy actors that are always considered the greats get to a certain age and then just do absolute dog shits and just ham it in and do shape performance. Like look at Robert De Niro, right? Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, everything in the 80s, nineties, phenomenal, brilliant actor, amazing actor. 1:23:25 And then he meets Ben Stiller and he starts to meet the Fockers and then he just pops up in every city, shitty, silly film. And every time when you put a legacy actor like of that quality and calibre, when you put them in a comedy, it's dog shit. They are shit, they're only there for a check, they're not even trying. 1:23:43 But I always feel when Nicolas Cage is doing his shit acting, he still kind of feels like he's trying and he feels like he's not just for the sake of it. It looks like he's generally having fun every time. So you are right, he is an anomaly. 1:23:58 I do agree with you. 1:24:00 Speaker 3 But during those times, that's not. 1:24:01 Speaker 2 Him acting that's just him thinking like what would I as Nick Cage do in this situation? Not not allow me to channel this character. He's going right. If I as Nick Cage as nobody else, if I being a weird fucking guy, what what would I do? 1:24:23 And then he just, I don't think that for a lot of his roles, he even looks at the script. He just goes like, I'm Nick Cage and I'm going to do this. Did you ever see the film? Which is exactly. 1:24:33 Speaker 3 That what you are. 1:24:34 Speaker 1 Describing it's got, it's got Nick Cage in it. And it stars It's got Nick Cage in it. It's got Pedro Pascal in it. Yeah. What was that movie called? I can't remember what it's called. 1:24:45 Speaker 2 Top of my head, but have you? 1:24:46 Speaker 1 Seen it. Yeah. Yeah, I was. I was a big Nick Cage fan. Fucking great reference. And all these things. These are my guns from face off. This is my this is my con from Connor. This is my. 1:25:01 This is my Lord. 1:25:02 Speaker 3 From World of War. 1:25:04 Speaker 1 Hey, there was no war in Lord of War. 1:25:11 Speaker 3 That's the cane from Citizen Cane. No, But yeah, as a Nick Cage friend, it's like, oh. 1:25:14 Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just Nick Cage being Nick Cage. Just like pretending to be a spy with Pedro Pascal. What the fuck was that film called? But yeah, it's a. 1:25:25 Speaker 2 Really good movie and I really loved it, but somehow he was being less Nick Cage whilst playing Nick Cage. The Unbearable weight of Massive Talent Which? 1:25:35 Speaker 1 Is probably what he called it himself. 1:25:40 Speaker 3 How do you pitch that idea for a film? Like, yeah, we write. We write. Do you know? 1:25:43 Speaker 1 Sometimes you write a film with an actor in mind, but you're not always sure if you'll get the actor, so you got to still audition for the road, reckon Anyone else? 1:25:50 Speaker 3 Audition for the role. 1:25:51 Speaker 1 Of Nicolas Cage because that, because sometimes you hear. 1:25:56 Speaker 3 Like, sort of. 1:25:57 Speaker 1 Harris, Harrison Ford, Hands up No Indiana Jones. That wasn't written for Harrison Ford. It was written for Tom Selleck. That was the role. They didn't get Tom Selleck because, I don't know, he's busy doing Magnum Pi shit. Nah, don't want to do it. 1:26:12 I'm doing Magnum Pi. That's where the money is. TV. I don't know, we'll just get that fucking Carpenter boy off the set of fucking Star Wars. He'll do it, I guess. Cool. So anyway, was this film out in mind with Nick Cage in mind? But oh, it's good job we auditioned him. 1:26:28 It's a good job. He was very Nicholas Cage. God, we almost had Nicholas Holt doing this thing. Oh yeah. Oh my God. 1:26:40 Speaker 3 No, Yeah, Renfield. 1:26:41 Speaker 1 Renfield's got to be. 1:26:42 Speaker 2 On my list for next. 1:26:43 Speaker 1 Week, I think, yeah, really good.

The Decline of Spoof Films and Outdated 90s Humor 1:26:46 The Decline of Spoof Films and Outdated 90s Humor But I'm beef, yeah. 1:26:48 Speaker 2 Yeah, something else that's. 1:26:49 Speaker 1 Really fucking good as well. 1:26:51 Speaker 2 And beef had made shed a few tears. Oh, I did it. Yeah, it's it's very. 1:26:56 Speaker 1 Like it? 1:26:57 Speaker 2 Is presenting firstly as a comedy. I generally had no idea Beef was going to be about two people with. 1:27:03 Speaker 1 Beef because to me that's such like a, a sort of like, not modern, but like a colloquial sort of slang for like 2 people ever go. I don't think we use it a lot in our culture or this country anyway. We don't use the term like beef like it's usually said. Like I think it's a generational thing, isn't it? 1:27:19 I think it's a generation. 1:27:20 Speaker 2 Of bullets, maybe, you think. 1:27:22 Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I'm just thinking of that always on the episode where they all the gang squash the beef and I think and that they're a generation of. 1:27:30 Speaker 3 Essentially, there are. 1:27:31 Speaker 1 No, they're a generation above us. I think of what they're in the 40s, I don't know. There is. It could be elder millennials. 1:27:38 Speaker 2 There's a few. 1:27:40 Speaker 1 Defining factors to it, to be honest. 1:27:41 Speaker 2 With you, because I think you are. I don't think that this don't think this country. No, no, not anyway. It'd be American thing, I guess. 1:27:49 Speaker 1 Beef. 1:27:49 Speaker 2 Y'all got? 1:27:50 Speaker 1 Beef with them. Not yet. Not some of the. I think they said a lot in, I don't want to say it's like a Ebonics thing, you know, but I'm pretty sure like maybe like a, a black culture sort of thing. I, I remember like Will Smith saying he had beef with people a lot when he would kick off with someone in Fresh Prince of Bella. 1:28:06 That's where I mainly know it from. And, and like things like of that nature, but I don't know. But yeah, it's more of an American thing. So when, when you say the show's called beef, my initial thought is the food. But again, it'd be cultural thing. Beef is a very British food anyway, stakes the American version. 1:28:25 Speaker 3 In it well. 1:28:27 Speaker 1 There's no Wellington exactly. I'm not saying. 1:28:32 Speaker 3 That they don't have beef in America, but it's. 1:28:34 Speaker 1 Like I tell you what, America. 1:28:38 Speaker 3 Does have a beef with the rest of the fucking. 1:28:40 Speaker 1 World Yeah, look away. Trump's tariff can't. 1:28:44 Speaker 2 Touch the cube. 1:28:45 Speaker 1 Yeah, can't export anything from the cube, but everything does appear in the cube, so that's fine. And we don't have to pay shit, just find it on the shores of Elysium. 1:29:02 Speaker 3 Hey, if we're lucky, a couple of Penguins might even appear in the cube. 1:29:06 Speaker 1 Cube Penguins now cube Queens. The cube is just like the second. 1:29:12 Speaker 2 Lethal Weapon Mover What happened in the second Lethal Weapon Mover we have Diplomatic. 1:29:17 Speaker 1 Immunity. Fuck. 1:29:20 Speaker 2 What? 1:29:21 Speaker 3 The Family Guy song, that's where. 1:29:23 Speaker 1 That line was directly from for some reason, you said Lethal Weapon. I heard the second Naked Gun film. I'm like, what? I don't remember anything in Naked Gun. Did you see the trailer for Naked? The new Naked Gun? Yeah. I am not sold on it. I was right. 1:29:38 Speaker 2 At first I wasn't sold when they said. 1:29:40 Speaker 1 They were doing it again. I wasn't sold when they. 1:29:42 Speaker 2 Said Liam Neeson was going to be cast as as the main. Yeah, and I'm absolutely still not sold after watching the trailer. I don't think it looks good, I tell you right I was. 1:29:53 Speaker 1 Interested when they said they were doing another Naked Gun film and when Seth MacFarlane was going to be in charge of it? Because Seth MacFarlane said he was a, he's a big fan of like classic spoof comedy, you know what I mean? And I, I trust he's a funny guy. You know when he writes he's, I genuinely think he's funny and I think he gets that. 1:30:12 Saw him like he grew up on Monty Python and stuff. He loved the Naked Gun TV show and stuff. And I was on board for that. And genuinely, we've not had a decent spoof film since The Naked Guns because all spoof films are these days. They do nothing but reference pop culture stuff. 1:30:29 And they dated after a week. All those epic movies, scary movies, the hero movies, all of them are bird, dog shake. Absolute bottom of the barrel. I'm glad that none of them anymore, even though they are doing a scary movie 6 or 7 or whatever, which is insane. 1:30:44 That probably will be Dog shake. I saw the trailer. I was annoyed at it within the 1st 5 minutes because I was like 1. Frank Durban was never a cool badass like Liam, Liam Nielsen was doing. He was, yeah, he was doing silly things. He was killing someone with a lollipop. 1:31:00 He sharpened it, stabbed someone throughout the moment. All right, even though that feels very silly and parody ish. Don't do what right. And Frank Dragon was never a badass. And my wife, they made him a badass. But then it's like his son. So I'm like, OK, whatever, it's his son. So it's not actually that version of Frank Dragon. 1:31:16 It's a different version. It's just Frank Dragon Junior, you know, And apparently all the police force are like something Junior. The OJ Simpson joke got me. Oh, that was pretty funny. But other than that, I don't know. It was just a teaser trailer. I'd have to see Markers. What makes those spoof films so good is there's about same with them Hotshots as well. 1:31:36 They were fucking amazing. Part 1 and part duh. You can rewatch them about 20. 1:31:44 Speaker 3 Different. 1:31:44 Speaker 1 Times and you'll find a new joke each frame and each scene of those films. This is why they don't do them anymore, because they're so fucking expensive and so meticulously set out. There's, there has to be about 20 jokes on screen at one time. Even moving from a camera pan from a 30 second shot from a pan over to B, there needs to be about 100 jokes laying in the background, in the foreground and what people are saying and what's going on everywhere. 1:32:12 You see it once that's funny about you see it again. Never notice that. That's why they're so fucking good. I don't know if they'll do that with this one. I hope so, but that's the reason why they don't make those spoof films anymore and that's the reason why the police squad got cancelled, because it was so difficult and so expensive to make because they tried to do that. 1:32:30 There needs to be about 50 jokes on screen at any one time. She's insane. They, they just really set them. I, I suppose it's like the third part people, they really set themselves up for a fucking tall order and eventually they just made films instead. And then yeah, the third film was considered pretty shit, but it's the first one I saw as a child so I love it the most, but it is the most watered down. 1:32:51 Shittest 1 also very transphobic as they were tend to do in the 90s. That was like the favorite plot. Absolute body got a Dick, all men throw up, Asian Cherry did it, Naked Gun 2 did it. And I'm like, while you're throwing up, she's still hot. 1:33:09 Santa Nicole. 1:33:10 Speaker 3 Smith were you saying no for? 1:33:13 Speaker 1 What, you wouldn't say no to Finkel and Einhorn? 1:33:24 Speaker 3 Yeah, for some reason back in the. 1:33:26 Speaker 1 90s it was fun funny to make jokes about trans people I guess which is why they I was think about something other day which a joke which was widely accepted, especially for our generation. I was talking about someone at work who is round about my age and I said, I said to him, I was like, do you not think it's insane that 1616 year ago we all had this character? 1:33:50 Oh no, it wasn't someone I was talking to. I was talking to a friend who is exactly my age. I was like, do you not think it's insane that there was this character going around about 16 years ago that we all generally didn't think there was an issue with called Pedo Burr? There was like memes. 1:34:04 Speaker 3 And like gifts of like just just burst sweating. 1:34:07 Speaker 1 And everyone accepted that. And then the fact that it was so popular, you could buy plushies of it. You can go into HMV, you could buy a fucking pedo bird plushie.

Battling Edgar Allan Crow and Robotronic Voice Issues 1:34:17 Battling Edgar Allan Crow and Robotronic Voice Issues Is it recording? Is. 1:34:18 Speaker 3 It doing it is doing it like. 1:34:22 Speaker 2 I had a bit of trouble starting. 1:34:23 Speaker 3 The fucking recording this morning. 1:34:25 Speaker 2 As well, it just wouldn't pick up any sound. Silly silly sound stuff. Silly, silly. 1:34:30 Speaker 1 Sound stuff. All right, so. 1:34:33 Speaker 2 Apologies coming up, future apologies. 1:34:36 Speaker 1 Present apologies, it would be on it. 1:34:38 Speaker 2 I guess if they already heard the. 1:34:41 Speaker 1 The villainous robotronic voice taking over us. Are they going to hear the villainous robotronic voice take over us? Are you talking about Edgar Allan Crow? 1:34:51 Speaker 2 Don't say his name. Well, the. 1:34:55 Speaker 3 Evil robot Crow has been harassing us. 1:34:58 Speaker 1 Since day one, Yeah, I'm on about him. Yeah, we're talking about yeah. Don't say his. 1:35:07 Speaker 2 Name. Oh, EAC. 1:35:14 Speaker 1 Oh my God, you're calling EAC eek the bane of our. 1:35:20 Speaker 2 Podcasting adventure. 1:35:22 Speaker 1 That we forever have to record occasional. What he could do. Yeah, yeah. And you don't know this, fellow listeners. 1:35:30 Speaker 2 We've, I think we've done a good job of. 1:35:32 Speaker 1 Keeping them at Bay. But occasionally what he's going to try and do every now and again, he'll creep up, he'll mimic our voices and he'll make us sound like absolute dog shit. We will sound like we're from planet Cybertron. Yeah, we usually catch him during the recording. 1:35:46 Speaker 2 But this time, always a sneaky Yeah. It was only whilst editing this episode that it became very apparent that he could take and control for the last 15 minutes as well, which is ridiculous. It is, it is, it is one time. 1:36:02 We're going to leave it in because we don't want to lose it. 1:36:04 Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I mean, I'm going to show you a. 1:36:07 Speaker 2 Little bit an egg exams and I'm making that. 1:36:13 Speaker 1 Happen going to show you an eke example of. 1:36:18 Speaker 2 What it sounds like here, that was a society that we lived in and everyone. 1:36:25 Speaker 1 Cool, I am. 1:36:27 Speaker 3 At Rob, OH. 1:36:33 Speaker 1 See if you can tell which one was which. Yeah, so. 1:36:39 Speaker 3 Just just again is a small clip. 1:36:42 Speaker 2 I don't know. It's funny, if that. No, no, no, because. 1:36:45 Speaker 1 That's me announcing which is the oh. 1:36:47 Speaker 2 Right, cutting in here. OK. Right. So there's, there's gonna be 1 after the other. That's gonna be two sayings. You have to try and decipher which one's eek and which one's not eek. That's not what that's not the game we play. 1:37:02 Yeah, yeah. 1:37:03 Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the game. OK, OK, right. 1:37:06 Speaker 2 Point to me when you want me to. 1:37:07 Speaker 1 Do mine, you can do yours. 1:37:11 Speaker 3 Whenever, because all I'm going to do is copy. 1:37:13 Speaker 2 And paste like a bit. It might be easier if you're partying. Wait. Oh, OK. 1:37:18 Speaker 1 Right, so I'm going to leave. 1:37:20 Speaker 2 Two pauses, right? And I'm going to be like, is it this pause or is it this pause? Right? OK, little game for the list of the home, which one's eek? Which one is not eek? Is it this Welcome to the cube? 1:37:36 Beep beep. 1:37:40 Speaker 3 Obviously this just got attached. 1:37:44 Speaker 2 He's. 1:37:44 Speaker 3 Rated Minecraft. 1:37:46 Speaker 1 A three out of 10, I'll be honest, I think the first ones, eek, I think. 1:37:50 Speaker 2 I think they both said fucking terrible. 1:37:53 Speaker 1 I can't believe we've left either or in, but he he he got away with it. Oh man, it's not gone by us. He did saying that. Isn't there some like Lost media that people can find where his phone took over a more more or less a full episode? 1:38:11 Speaker 3 I don't think it's a full episode, but. 1:38:14 Speaker 2 He he ruined a full episode that never went live. 1:38:17 Speaker 1 He did. If we ever reference things like, you know, hey, when did? 1:38:20 Speaker 2 They talk about that. 1:38:22 Speaker 1 It was him. It was. It was because he sunk his talons into. 1:38:27 Speaker 2 The robotronic corvid that hounds us on a on. 1:38:30 Speaker 1 A daily basis in many ways is worse than the albatross as whereas the albatross tells us or used to tell us to all right guys wrap it up. Essentially, the albatross tells us when it's bedtime. He does talks as it he. 1:38:42 Speaker 2 Has if anything, the albatross is like, I don't know, it's it's like a government sanctioned thing in it. And we see announces himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking. He just creeps his way in to our hearts and minds. 1:38:58 Not in a good way, not. 1:39:02 Speaker 1 Not in a good way, you're right. 1:39:03 Speaker 2 But yeah, just wanted to put this little bit at the end to put a finish for the episode because otherwise it's just speaker breaking sound and I'm not about it. I don't like it. And I'm pretty certain that you, the listener, don't like it either. 1:39:19 But that's just what he wants to do. I grab Michael over. Yeah, You don't have to listen to the last 1520 minutes if you don't. 1:39:25 Speaker 1 Want if you can withstand. 1:39:29 Speaker 3 Like a brick being thrown in a tumble. 1:39:31 Speaker 1 Dryer. Sure, if you don't mind your headphones exploding. 1:39:36 Speaker 2 Into your ears. Cool. Listen to it more, but otherwise no good. Do not listen to it. Apologies. Apologies. We apologize. 1:39:46 Speaker 1 On on behalf of EEK, yeah, we apologize. 1:39:49 Speaker 2 On behalf of them, I'm not. 1:39:51 Speaker 1 Safe sorry for him. Actually that's. 1:39:53 Speaker 2 Ridiculous. It's a bit of a he's a cunt. 1:39:56 Speaker 1 He's a bane. He's a bane in. 1:39:58 Speaker 2 Larynx. 1:39:59 Speaker 1 Perfect mimicry, my eye. Sorry, I'm gonna end it there. Java. A little Simpsons court. 1:40:05 Speaker 2 To Polish things off, is the end of the episode still gonna be in the episode so you can eat also? 1:40:10 Speaker 1 On you just cutting it, you just put some eggies ants. 1:40:13 Speaker 2 In that right, right. 1:40:14 Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm so wonderful. I've got I. 1:40:20 Speaker 3 Was in my own. 1:40:22 Speaker 1 Space in the cube, so-called me in I'll. 1:40:27 Speaker 3 Let you do his little quote. 1:40:29 Speaker 1 1st, I'm gonna do the visual quote for the episode. All right, do. 1:40:33 Speaker 2 You remember what mine was? I actually don't. That's fine. It's it's a difficult listen and I Oh no, I've got I can always catch him. All right, so do you. 1:40:44 Speaker 1 Wanna do you wanna go first or do you? 1:40:46 Speaker 2 Want me to go? So I've been making. Oh God, who could have? 1:40:49 Speaker 1 Thought of where would be so heavy? 1:40:54 Speaker 3 I was watching that episode the other day. 1:40:58 Speaker 1 Just All right, Come on, come on. We've got. 1:41:00 Speaker 3 To get this thing back to SeaWorld, they're aren't to us. They're aren't to us. And I've been. 1:41:11 Speaker 1 Jacked Hi Super. 1:41:12 Speaker 2 Nintendo charmers. I'm learning. Nice.


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