Episode nineteen:
George, Paul, Ringo, and... Nicholas Cage?
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Contents
- Debating Potato Waffles and French Language Quirks (0:00)
- Mike's Mortifying Easter Biscuit Customer Interaction (4:56)
- The Absurdity of Four Simultaneous Beatles Biopics (8:02)
- From Beatles Actors to Helen Keller's Life Story (19:02)
- Defending the Devil May Cry Anime from Fan Gatekeeping (29:44)
- Praising Animated Gems: Scavengers Reign and Blue Eye Samurai (46:11)
- Exploring A24's 'Beef' and The Rock's New Role (55:45)
- The Silly Rules and Lore of Vampires in Buffy (1:03:54)
- Mike Flanagan's Dread and Nicolas Cage's Acting Spectrum (1:18:00)
- The Decline of Spoof Films and Outdated 90s Humor (1:26:46)
- Battling Edgar Allan Crow and Robotronic Voice Issues (1:34:17)
Debating Potato Waffles and French Language Quirks
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So maybe they are considered sweet? Maybe it's just a British thing that waffles with light savoury. I feel like we do make everything like potatoes and it might be just be an Oz thing. |
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Speaker 2 Well, if the potatoes are such a versatile vegetable, and I'll be with, what would we? |
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Speaker 1 Essentially like the egg of the vegetable world. Yeah, as the Orbit said, you can smash them, freeze, dry them, air fry them, put them in a pot. That's what Sam said. |
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Wait, even Sam? It was Mary or Pippen. I don't know which one it was. Yeah, come at me, JRR talking historians. |
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Speaker 2 Yeah, talking, talking. |
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Speaker 1 Oh yeah, that guy. Where's he now? Probably still talking. Talking, probably. |
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Speaker 2 Still putting episodes, yeah. |
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Speaker 1 So in the ninth age of the human error, I don't know something it's. |
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Speaker 2 Not a ninth age. |
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Speaker 1 I don't fucking know. I'm not talking talking. So yeah, apparently potato waffles are just embracing. God, I wish I had an American friend who would come over and visit and I'd be like, let me put you on from some waffles and they'd be like, whoa, I prefer some hot Food First. |
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I prefer some like something savory. You're getting something savory, mate. You're getting waffles? No. Do you start with dessert first in your household? No. Of this is going to blow your little mind. Blow your little American mind. |
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Do you reckon when the British people first heard about waffles? Oh, that's a bit sweet. None of that. It's almost like a pastry. It's fluffy. Oh, you know, it'll be better if this was potato. |
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1:49 Speaker 2 I mean, that's assuming that the Americans were making waffles before those. 1:54 Speaker 1 I imagine say I because most of the Google searches waffle just on its own. It's a sweet dessert. Well. 2:02 Speaker 2 Yeah. 2:02 Speaker 1 So I'm assuming something. 2:04 Speaker 2 'S more popular, doesn't mean that it was the first. 2:06 Speaker 1 True, I'm just assuming. 2:07 Speaker 2 My standpoint is is that America is an incredibly young country. 2:12 Speaker 1 It's probably from I'm just saying America because America it's probably Italian or something. They they fuck about with pastries right? Or France. No, it's probably French. In it are always fucking about with pastries, croissants and the like. Pana raisins. 2:27 Speaker 2 A pan full of raisins. 2:28 Speaker 1 Pana Raisin, Panorazin. I don't know. I don't speak French. It's pronounced well. It's spelled pain O Raisin. 2:37 Speaker 2 Oh, raisins are a pain. 2:38 Speaker 1 Fucking annoying. No raisins and a panorazin. Oh wait, yeah, there is. Yeah, that's why I don't like them, because the raisins. Maybe that's what it maybe that's what a panorazin stands for. Panna raisins again. I'm not French if you didn't know well Pen. 2:55 Speaker 2 Means bread, don't it? What is that? 3:01 Speaker 1 Because I just translated it in my head. Oh, oh, oh, do you know what I want for breakfast? Oh, big bread of raisins. Oh, butter is up some bread of raisins. So shit, don't it? Pana Raisin just sounds a bit better. 3:18 We should definitely not adopt French language into our language just for like certain things like Pano chocolate, call it bread chocolate already. 3:27 Speaker 2 Seen. 3:28 Speaker 1 Already seen, Already seen Deja vu. They don't know that they don't know. 3:34 Speaker 2 No one knows but me. 3:36 Speaker 1 No, what we're doing, we're taking talking from the outside, not the outside. We're always here. 3:43 Speaker 2 Yeah. 3:44 Speaker 1 There's not always recording. 3:45 Speaker 2 Just a separate part of the cube. 3:46 Speaker 1 It's the recording bit of the cube. You don't even. 3:48 Speaker 2 Worry about that. 3:49 Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes we hit record, sometimes we don't. Sometimes an albatross talks, then don't worry about it, you know. 3:54 Speaker 2 Sometimes the albatross will. 3:55 Speaker 1 We have conversations not Privy backside. 3:57 Speaker 2 Such as such as deja vu translated means already seen. 4:04 Speaker 1 Which I think is better and I think we should just say that and don't act surprised when you say it already seen. 4:12 Speaker 2 Already seen? 4:14 Speaker 1 What was that Neo? A black cat already seen. Honestly it'd be better. We should just not take. Is it just French words we do it with or is there like. I suppose I can't think of any slop at all in my. 4:28 Speaker 2 Head. 4:29 Speaker 1 Like maybe Italian I assume? 4:31 Speaker 2 There's other things. 4:31 Speaker 1 That, but I'm thinking more of a Starbucks thing with sizes or venti and Grande. I don't think that's the wildly adopted thing that we just have in our lexicon. Yeah. 4:41 Speaker 2 That's that's a Starbucks only thing in it. Yeah, yeah. Anyway. |
Mike's Mortifying Easter Biscuit Customer Interaction
The Absurdity of Four Simultaneous Beatles Biopics
From Beatles Actors to Helen Keller's Life Story
Defending the Devil May Cry Anime from Fan Gatekeeping
Praising Animated Gems: Scavengers Reign and Blue Eye Samurai
Exploring A24's 'Beef' and The Rock's New Role
The Silly Rules and Lore of Vampires in Buffy
Mike Flanagan's Dread and Nicolas Cage's Acting Spectrum
1:18:00 I've not seen every Mickey Flanagan horror shenanigans thing I've seen. 1:18:07 Speaker 3 Hill House. 1:18:08 Speaker 1 Bligh Manor, I've seen that too. I've seen. Midnight Mass I've not seen. 1:18:13 Speaker 2 Midnight. 1:18:13 Speaker 1 Club, which is another one he did, which is about people telling horror stories, but they're all on like death row or something. And then there's the host, The Fall of the House of Usher, That's all of Mickey Flanagan's Netflix, Not Mickey Flanagan, it's Mike Flanagan. I just think it's funny to say Mickey Flanagan's horror shenanigans. 1:18:31 He did the sequel to The Shining as well. If you ever saw that I know what it was called, it's good. 1:18:40 Speaker 3 Ewan McGregor played Danny. 1:18:41 Speaker 1 Torres and it was really good. From what I remember, that was a Mickey Flanagan. He's a good horror director. He's I think he's one of the best. To be fair, every time his name pops up, it makes me go, oh, because he never does the thing that a lot of shitty horrors do, which is like low noises and jump skirts generally puts the feeling of dread in you, which is what you want. 1:19:01 That's exactly what I want. 1:19:05 Speaker 2 Yeah. 1:19:08 Speaker 1 But Speaking of. 1:19:09 Speaker 2 Vampires. I lost Renfield as well. Oh yeah, you did. I was that. 1:19:14 Speaker 1 Yeah, I need to watch that. Nicholas Holt as Renfield. 1:19:19 Speaker 2 Nicholas Cage. Nicholas Cage It was not Renfield. 1:19:22 Speaker 1 As yeah, yeah. 1:19:25 Speaker 2 As. 1:19:26 Speaker 1 Dracula. 1:19:27 Speaker 3 And. 1:19:28 Speaker 2 As a selling point for you, how confused is it? Sold, Sold sold with Nicolas Cage Draken on set like the director and. 1:19:35 Speaker 1 Nick and like Renfield and Dracula were like what? Which one? Or Dracon? Nicolas Cage was like one. That's confusing, whether he's a good actor or not. 1:19:48 Speaker 3 Nick Cage and Nick Holboff look at each other. Nicolas Cage is like, well, I have the Oscar. 1:19:58 Speaker 1 Bad Nick Cage impression. I took a running running running shot at it. But yeah, he does have Oscars. 1:20:06 Speaker 2 Nicholas Cage. 1:20:07 Speaker 1 Rather than Nicholas Holt does. So by that logic, Nicolas Cage is the better actor. He's been in more things, yeah. More things, yeah. And he generally he's. 1:20:14 Speaker 2 A good actor, he just does a lot. 1:20:15 Speaker 1 Of silly fucking stuff. He just does shit that he likes. Yeah, pay off those massive debts I'm not going to get. 1:20:23 Speaker 3 Into whether Nick Cage isn't good or bad. 1:20:26 Speaker 2 Actor, because he's this, he, he's the only actor on the planet, I think. The and and and. He's the only actor on the planet, I think. 1:20:35 Speaker 1 That exists and of. 1:20:42 Speaker 2 I don't think you've seen, I don't think you've seen Good Nick Cage. 1:20:45 Speaker 1 Films. 1:20:48 Speaker 2 You just did. Nicolas Cage is the only actor that's ever lived. And everyone. 1:20:51 Speaker 1 Else that's how good he is. He is. So he's the only one that exists? 1:20:56 Speaker 3 Within this plane. 1:20:57 Speaker 2 Of all, all acting, the he is both incredible and also really fucking share. There's there's no other actor ever or there will ever be, I don't think because Nick Cage himself, like I I agree with you. 1:21:14 You have that. 1:21:16 Speaker 1 Like, there's very specific things about. 1:21:17 Speaker 2 Him and he's mostly it's, it's, it's his personality that shines through in every single role he does. And because no other actor has that type of personality to them either. But he is dog shit. But the same time I fucking love watching him. Yeah. 1:21:33 And I love a lot of the stuff that he does. It's fucking shy. But then it'll go bang and it'll turn on this. Oh my God, did you see Weatherman? Did you see Lord of War? 1:21:43 Speaker 1 Fuck, they were good and it'll just turn on acting and it'll be. 1:21:48 Speaker 2 The best performance that you'll see for the next few years, you know what I mean? But then it'll go back to being this fucking weirdo. 1:21:59 Speaker 3 Where he is just playing himself. Yeah. And it's the. 1:22:02 Speaker 2 Same in this, where he's being Dracula, where half the time he's he, he just put on an accent. It's a decent accent, right? And that's, you know, I am, I am being genuine about that. Who's the better Dracula, Nick Cage or Adam Sandler? 1:22:15 Speaker 1 But every so often, and this is throughout the movie. 1:22:19 Speaker 2 The accent will drop a little bit and he'll be going. That's right. I'm not going to do it. Yeah. Why the fuck No. Yeah, woo. And then he'll turn acting back on and he'll put it right. 1:22:40 Why? Agree with you. 1:22:41 Speaker 3 That really good movie though. 1:22:43 Speaker 1 If I'll be honest, yeah, no, I'm definitely. 1:22:45 Speaker 2 Going to watch. I want to watch the violence. 1:22:47 Speaker 1 Incredibly silly I'm. 1:22:49 Speaker 2 Really funny. I'm good with silly hyper violence. 1:22:53 Speaker 1 Oh shit, what's his fucking? 1:22:54 Speaker 2 Name Nicholas Cage dapping him up all day. 1:22:58 Speaker 1 Ben Schwartz is in there as well, OK. 1:23:01 Speaker 2 Sonic the Hedgehog. 1:23:04 Speaker 1 No, I would say some legacy actors that are always considered the greats get to a certain age and then just do absolute dog shits and just ham it in and do shape performance. Like look at Robert De Niro, right? Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, everything in the 80s, nineties, phenomenal, brilliant actor, amazing actor. 1:23:25 And then he meets Ben Stiller and he starts to meet the Fockers and then he just pops up in every city, shitty, silly film. And every time when you put a legacy actor like of that quality and calibre, when you put them in a comedy, it's dog shit. They are shit, they're only there for a check, they're not even trying. 1:23:43 But I always feel when Nicolas Cage is doing his shit acting, he still kind of feels like he's trying and he feels like he's not just for the sake of it. It looks like he's generally having fun every time. So you are right, he is an anomaly. 1:23:58 I do agree with you. 1:24:00 Speaker 3 But during those times, that's not. 1:24:01 Speaker 2 Him acting that's just him thinking like what would I as Nick Cage do in this situation? Not not allow me to channel this character. He's going right. If I as Nick Cage as nobody else, if I being a weird fucking guy, what what would I do? 1:24:23 And then he just, I don't think that for a lot of his roles, he even looks at the script. He just goes like, I'm Nick Cage and I'm going to do this. Did you ever see the film? Which is exactly. 1:24:33 Speaker 3 That what you are. 1:24:34 Speaker 1 Describing it's got, it's got Nick Cage in it. And it stars It's got Nick Cage in it. It's got Pedro Pascal in it. Yeah. What was that movie called? I can't remember what it's called. 1:24:45 Speaker 2 Top of my head, but have you? 1:24:46 Speaker 1 Seen it. Yeah. Yeah, I was. I was a big Nick Cage fan. Fucking great reference. And all these things. These are my guns from face off. This is my this is my con from Connor. This is my. 1:25:01 This is my Lord. 1:25:02 Speaker 3 From World of War. 1:25:04 Speaker 1 Hey, there was no war in Lord of War. 1:25:11 Speaker 3 That's the cane from Citizen Cane. No, But yeah, as a Nick Cage friend, it's like, oh. 1:25:14 Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just Nick Cage being Nick Cage. Just like pretending to be a spy with Pedro Pascal. What the fuck was that film called? But yeah, it's a. 1:25:25 Speaker 2 Really good movie and I really loved it, but somehow he was being less Nick Cage whilst playing Nick Cage. The Unbearable weight of Massive Talent Which? 1:25:35 Speaker 1 Is probably what he called it himself. 1:25:40 Speaker 3 How do you pitch that idea for a film? Like, yeah, we write. We write. Do you know? 1:25:43 Speaker 1 Sometimes you write a film with an actor in mind, but you're not always sure if you'll get the actor, so you got to still audition for the road, reckon Anyone else? 1:25:50 Speaker 3 Audition for the role. 1:25:51 Speaker 1 Of Nicolas Cage because that, because sometimes you hear. 1:25:56 Speaker 3 Like, sort of. 1:25:57 Speaker 1 Harris, Harrison Ford, Hands up No Indiana Jones. That wasn't written for Harrison Ford. It was written for Tom Selleck. That was the role. They didn't get Tom Selleck because, I don't know, he's busy doing Magnum Pi shit. Nah, don't want to do it. 1:26:12 I'm doing Magnum Pi. That's where the money is. TV. I don't know, we'll just get that fucking Carpenter boy off the set of fucking Star Wars. He'll do it, I guess. Cool. So anyway, was this film out in mind with Nick Cage in mind? But oh, it's good job we auditioned him. 1:26:28 It's a good job. He was very Nicholas Cage. God, we almost had Nicholas Holt doing this thing. Oh yeah. Oh my God. 1:26:40 Speaker 3 No, Yeah, Renfield. 1:26:41 Speaker 1 Renfield's got to be. 1:26:42 Speaker 2 On my list for next. 1:26:43 Speaker 1 Week, I think, yeah, really good.The Decline of Spoof Films and Outdated 90s Humor
Battling Edgar Allan Crow and Robotronic Voice Issues