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Episode two: The Continuation of Fear

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Spooks in the machine

0:03

Perfect.

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I'm happy about it. Happy about it. I am very happy about it. It's probably a good job we

0:12

weren't I mean, it was good conversations that we were having, but it's probably a good job we

0:16

wasn't recording the last one because um for the first say five minutes of it, my mic was turned

0:22

up. So, there was I was hearing I was hearing that throughout it. Don't know if it would have picked

0:28

up. Oh, don't know if it would have picked up on there, but yeah, I don't know either cuz they

0:33

have these fancy sound balls now. Yeah, I don't know how well they work, but it might alleviate

0:38

some of the outside world [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Is I mean, it it it definitely will have some uh sound

0:47

dampening qualities to it. I'll be honest here. Negating the effects of the outside of the cube.

0:55

Anyway, this is part two. of shout in the cube spooky spooky and then Jack can fuff about with

1:05

adding a reverb to it. He can do it. I believe in you. I can definitely try. I can definitely

1:12

try. If you can censor certain words with a banjo string, I think you can add a echoing.

1:21

I don't think you need I mean you just say it normally. I'll I you can do I can. You don't need

1:26

to add a reverb to that one. That was perfect. It was fine. Spot the reverb. Spooky. Spooky spooks.

1:42

One of them will have a reverb. Imperceptible. The audience will never know the difference. Perfect.

2:06

So, we're on part two of our spooky podcast. Yeah. Uh, still trapped in the cube. That's

2:12

me and Jack and Ash. Sometimes, uh, another person materializes momentarily. The cubes are

2:22

[ __ ] universe, man. It's fine. Last time we talked about um talked about the thing, talked

2:29

about alien. What do we talk about? The thing, you know, the spooky thing. Actually, was it

2:39

talked about Alien, talked about the ABCs of death, talked about VHS, didn't we? We did. We

2:44

talked about um Human Centipede for for an absorbent amount of time. Much longer than

2:50

I thought we would. Too long. Talk to me. Serbian film again for much longer than I

2:55

thought we would. Probably the length of the film. Uh, talk to me something else as well.

3:01

Talk to me. I'm talking. Thank you. I'm talking really. Do you know what else we do something

3:08

else? I'm sure it was something else. I didn't do I've not done enough research about it, but um,

3:12

Talk to Me was done by a group of like YouTubers and influencers. Oh, that's the people who wrote

3:18

it and filmed it. I think they're all like thinking. I don't know. It makes me like it a

3:22

bit less. No. But still a very very good film. What do you hate students or something? Yeah,

3:30

I hate creativity. I hate young creativity cuz I was never like that when I was a child or a

3:36

young adult. Jesus Christ. Oh my lord. Uh do you have a uh preference of what we started with this

3:45

week? Um unless there's any other Hang on. Let me just get me notes up. There's got to be something

3:50

I missed. Where are we? Cube. Fod for the cube. F for the cube. Sounds like it could be part of

4:01

um a breakdown techno song. F for the cube. F for the cube. F for the cube. Get some laser

4:10

noises in there. F for the cube. Cube F. There you go. There's a jingle for you. Oh my god.

4:20

Hopefully if we ever get like, you know, a fan or a collection of fans, if we ever get a fan,

4:27

if we ever get we ever find an audience for this [ __ ] in the summer, we'll probably have one in

4:34

the room, you know. But uh no, if we ever get an enclave of fans, they'll take they'll take that

4:39

themselves and they'll make a a banging jingle out of it. A little Yeah. Stick it on Tik Tok.

4:44

Stick it on whatever apps are around at the time. might be something different. We just have to find

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a listener, a very talented listener who's well better at like sound and [ __ ] than we are. Yeah.

5:00

Yeah. Did we talk about Alien? We did talk, didn't we? We did talk. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz we said the first

5:05

one was better than the second one. Both agreed. I was going to say like what's your what sort of


Saw

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horrors do you prefer watching out of let's say psychological versus gore porn? Uh or silly cuz I

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think um Evil Dead's a silly horror is it? Yeah. I mean the the first one not so much. Are we are we

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are we talking about Evil Dead? That's the segue from Evil Dead. Yeah. Should I answer the question

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first or I don't know. It's up to you. Um, I would say out of those two, it's it's got to be uh the

5:43

psychological horror because the G porn stuff doesn't usually have any sort of story really

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to it. Yeah. It's just look at this, then look at this, then look at this, then look at that. Well,

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the story of G porn is usually um young attractive teens or younger getting chased by something. It's

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kind of like the slasher genre, isn't it really? No, I don't think so. Like Garon is uh it's it's

6:08

sore in it. Yeah. Which the whole story line is um use got trapped in a room of carbon monoxide.

6:19

Is I go up when you're down and then when you kick your legs and you go up I go down. Yeah.

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No, but yeah, the the guy Jigsaw, he's he has cancer. He's he's dying, right? He's back for

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the next one, by the way. Stupid. He's died many times. I don't know if he has. Right. Uh yeah,

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that's that's it. The the story doesn't progress any further than that really. Yeah. It's just

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here's a person that is kidnapped. this old frail cancer patient with st he has stage four terminal

6:57

cancer yet he's somehow able to keep kidnapping these he has fit healthy people he has um that

7:06

woman who does his bidding for him don't he that woman who survived one of his traps who joined

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him yeah she she came into it in like the second movie though I think I think it was that she was

7:16

helping he was doing all this [ __ ] nonsense in the second movie. She was already working

7:22

for him and she was like a spy with the rest of the people. I think that was been that story was

7:28

told in the fourth or fifth movie, right? I think I don't know. It could have also been told in the

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second one. I forget. Um I've not seen a lot of the Saw films. I'll take one Saw film that

7:39

I really did like which is very underrated and a lot of people just forget it's even a

7:42

Saw film. It's called Spiral and it stars Chris Rock. I've not seen it. I don't know. Not a lot

7:51

of people did. Um I can't remember much of it, but it's called Spiral. It stars Chris Rock and

7:57

um Samuel Jackson's his dad and his dad's like an ex cop. Chris Rock's a cop or something. They're

8:03

investigating killings which are copycat killings which are very similar to the Jigsaw killings,

8:08

but they're not the Jigsaw killings. And it's like a side spin-off film set in that universe,

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but it's got nothing to do with Jigsaw or Jigsaw Killer. It's just a story that exists that's kind

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of connected. I really enjoyed it. Um I think a lot of it was um it took it tackled certain sub

8:28

um sub subjects like race, police brutality and stuff. Like if if you told me the whole film was

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written as like um a response to the George Floyd situation that happened in America and

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cuz apparently it's a passion project to Chris Rock. He was a co-writer on it. Yeah, I'd fully

8:44

believe it. And it was that film when I watched it I was like you know what I have missed seeing

8:48

Chris Rock on screen and not just being silly Chris Rock screaming character just being a good

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actor you know no spiral really good um connected to the song franchise but yeah definitely like

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if it's on any sort of stream but a lot of people miss that one out and I think it's the better one

9:05

because it's not mindless gone if anything they're just seeing the effects of the traps you know and

9:11

aftermath of certain stuff I can't really remember the entire plot of it was 2 years ago when I saw

9:15

it. Yeah. Very good. Very good. Cool. Cool. I don't mind a lot of gore porn. I think it's great,

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but only if it's done to a silly amount, like say a Mortal Kombat amount. Like Mortal Kombat film

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wise, video game wise. They have horror elements, but they're not spooky. Yeah. You know, you do

9:33

enjoy the blood. Sometimes it's gratuitous, but it's never never makes you wins cuz it's absurd.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You blow up a guy and six rib cage pop out of him. Six. God. In the original

9:49

games. Yeah. They just threw a bunch of bones on there. They just like click more bones. Plumes

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don't plume. Yeah. God, that guy had three skulls, you know. Obviously this day and age it does look

10:03

a lot more realistic and grotesque, but it is very absurd. Yeah. Yeah. I know the most popular Gore

10:11

porn films at the moment are terrify. I've not seen a single one of them. No, I've either. They

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don't intrigue me, but apparently a lot of people do like them. And the character Art M the Clone,

10:21

I believe he's called. Probably get some hate for saying I don't like it, but I've never seen it,

10:25

so I cannot say. And I will not say. I cannot say. And I will not say if I like it or not. If I watch

10:32

them, I can give an opinion on it. You will never get this information out of me. could a waterboard

10:39

out of it. Art the clone himself couldn't get Do you like my films? For one, I don't think

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he talks. I think he's a mute. Maybe he holds up a like a while a coyote style sign for saying yikes.

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Oh my god. Do you like my films? Tick yes. Tick no. Hands me a note. And if I

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just like tick the question mark, he just down and tortures me or some [ __ ] Does

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something. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen some clips. Very violent, but you know, other than that,


Seven

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I don't know. But you know what? Whatever. But yeah, what else? Yeah. Yeah. I can't

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think of any good psychological horrors I've seen recently, though. Um, no. I What would

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you say seven is? That's a psychological one. Is it a horror or is it a thriller?

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I don't feel scared watching it, but I imagine No, but you get those sort of uh intense feelings

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though, don't you? Do you know what I mean? It does make your mind go to places. Yeah. The whole

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lost one specifically and the whole gluttony gluttony what not? Um when they walk in on the

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um sloth. Yeah. That's not pleasant. It does it does emote those feelings in you. It does invoke,

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I should say, invoke those feelings in you. You go, "Gh, no." Fun story about seven. I don't I

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don't know if you knew this, but originally, and I think it's pretty obvious once you you hear it

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for the first time, but originally it was written as a Batman spec script. I did know that actually.

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I did know that. Yeah. I don't know if it it was going to be like a Batman film where Batman was in

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it or he wasn't in it, but it was mostly going to be about Commissioner Gordon, the police,

12:32

and stuff. And when you rewatch seven, you're like, "Yeah, this shit's Gotham S. This is this

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is a killer that would exist in Gotham S." Yeah, definitely. You know, and I'm like, you know what?

12:44

Really good job. So, very good story. Yeah, I like Seven. Seven's probably a good psychological one

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cuz I think anything psychological is something that makes you feel uneasy. Makes you think no

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or you think you're going to be scared and you're not actually scared. But it's the anticipation of

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fear a lot of the times or it makes you go to bed and you still think it makes you go to bed. When

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you go to bed, you still feel tired after this [ __ ] Oh my god. I'm so scared, but I'm so tired.

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Oh my god. God,

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Kevin's face is tucking me in. God, no. Please. No, Kevin, you will go to bed.

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[ __ ] Jesus Christ. Yeah. You think um if it got spanned out into a fullon Batman story,

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do you reckon Kevin Space's character would have been Riddler or Joker or It

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does sort of fit Riddler's emmo? Riddler would be better. Not Not Joker. I I was

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I was trying to think actually in in sort of secret and then I was I was going to be like,

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"Hey, you know who the killer would be?" But you just asked me,

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so I don't really have an answer for you. All right, let's just whittle it down. Clay Clayface.

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Yo, I I was so quick to get that jerk out,

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I almost called him Clayman. Clayman. I was like, Clay, Clayman, Mr. Freeze.

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Zaz could have been a good one. Yeah, Zaz. I don't think it fits the bill,

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but I think you could rework Zaz into that. Yeah. Do you know what? I was I had I had Zaz

14:36

in my head. I had Calendar Man. I was thinking that as well. Yeah. These are these are good

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killers in the Batman world that they've not really utilized in the films. Yeah.

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Yeah. Has been in a film. Oh, yeah. I think Yeah, he was in um [ __ ] He was in one of

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the um he was in the second or third film. Oh, he was in a Dark Knight film, one of the norm.

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Yeah, courtroom scenes as was the But I think that's a character that could have his own

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film as a main villain. Yeah, definitely. He's a But I think some of these sealist

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Batman villains will never get their time to shine in a big blockbuster film because

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they are just a sealist Batman villain. Yeah, because they aren't Joker. Yeah,

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cuz they're not Joker. They're not Riddler. They're not Too Faced. They're not Penguin.

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Although I do like Modern Penguin for the um new films. I think he's great. He is good.

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He's so good. Better than any other penguin before him. Yeah, he eat a dick, Danny Devito.

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I'd say there's also um speaking of like Danny DeVito's The Penguin, going on back to the horror

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tangent, bringing it back, Tim Burton films, what genre of horror are they? Kid horror,

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family horror, cuz they're not scary. They're never scary, but they've got spooky vibes.

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Um yeah. Yeah. Do you know what? I don't I don't think horror is right. Uh I think it's

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it's like kid goth in it. Kid goth. Yeah. Yeah. He sang American Badass, didn't he?

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Yeah, that's kid Goth. For some reason, I'm imagining um you know those very tiny Billy

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Butcher memes that where he's got his big platform boots on, but it's like a crow duster jacket and

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he's got eyeliner on and that's Oh [ __ ] it's Kid Goth and then you know Batman just

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beats the [ __ ] out of it. Yeah, but yeah, like I think Tim Burton tries to encapsulate

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horror but never quite quirky horror in it. Yeah, like no one's watching Beetlejuice and

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getting scared or Nightmare Before Christmas, unless you're a child. It's It's more that

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there's horror elements within a comedy film. It's like a black comedy. Yeah, I guess. Yeah,

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I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Because you are right there. There's no there's no scares in it. It's just But

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but there are skeletons and there's there's no scares. But there are skeletons. Yeah. Yeah.

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And sometimes these skeletons are silly and called Jack. Usually usually they're silly. Couple of

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jump scares in the first Beetlejuice. I don't know when they pull off the face and then thing. But

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then again, it's a silly jump scare. It's like a Yeah, that's a a silly jump scare. But isn't the

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main plot of that Beetlejuice wants to marry like a 12-year-old child? Yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah. So,

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I don't know. Why Why aren't people looking into Tim Burton more? What's he What was this story?

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Was he a Diddy party? Was he on Epstein Island? Was he Was he in one of them freak offs? What

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a horrible thing to like learn. Why did he call it a freak off? Horrible. My god. Cuz um people

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were getting the freak off apparently. Apparently his lawyer like poo pooed that away as um call it

18:22

what you want. An org is an orgy. There's only about three or four people involved. I'm like

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I don't No one No one's calling a threesome or a forome a [ __ ] freak off. That's like a proper

18:34

smogusborg of just bodies writhing around each other in 8 lb. Just oiled bodies riding. Yeah.

18:44

just every all over each other just swerving around Hollywood celebrities as far as I can see.


Evil Dead

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So, going back to um if we could just get back on track now, that'd be really good. Going back

19:01

to like silly horror or like just I wouldn't even just say like the the first Evil Dead

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probably tried it tried a really good Dando doing a proper horror film, you know? Yeah. Evil Dead 2

19:12

sort of wreck on that and did silly horror cuz it is more of a Some people say it's a sequel,

19:18

some people say it's a remake. No, it is definitely a sequel. It's absolutely

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a sequel. It's not a remake. I I don't know. I know there's story elements where it's like why

19:29

why would he go back to the cabin or is does he go back with another girlfriend and it all

19:34

happens again? Right. This is the whole thing with the Evil Dead movies or at least the first three

19:41

because they all take place in their own weird universe. No, the second one's set in the queue.

19:50

Even Ash was shocked about that. Couldn't believe it. So, at the start of the second movie, it

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recaps the first movie. It does, but it retcons a lot of the [ __ ] that happened in the first one,

20:05

which makes it to me to be a reboot cuz how can a sequel just straight up reccon everything? But it

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does the same in Amidas. It reccons the second movie enough to fit what story they wanted to

20:21

tell for that film. Like Amy Darkness starts with like the ending of the second one again,

20:25

doesn't it? But it's different and then he gets dragged into a [ __ ] portal and then

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it's just a medieval adventure. Yeah. Yeah. But even from him uh being in medieval times Yeah.

20:38

the restaurant. Yeah. That we don't have in this country. I would love to go to a medieval times.

20:46

I honestly think the film cable guy when they go to medieval times when that goth chick talks about

20:53

utensils or big cokes or whatever she's chatting I'm like I think this is the thing that Yeah. Uh

20:59

I can't remember the actress. Yeah, that's the one. I think she's the one that like got you know

21:03

what I'm into these type of women. This little six-year-old me on the couch going Yeah. I lie.

21:14

Daddy like oh my god six-year-old Mike saying that. Yeah. So I really like

21:21

despondent women that don't care but look spooky. Yeah. That's my type. Yeah. Danny

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Mike Jr. likes little daddy likes. Yeah. My god. My [ __ ] lord. So go on. Right. First

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one serious. Second one silly. third one also. It's still it's still pretty serious,

21:46

but you can tell that it's going into the realm of slapstick. Do you know what I mean? Well,

21:51

when he's fighting his hand. Yeah. Yeah. But like uh the whole story of the second one is

21:58

um at the first one, is he lamenting the death of his girlfriend in the second one

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or is there another fe? I can't remember. It's been ages. Uh he's lamenting the death. Uh,

22:10

it's it's played by a different actress though, but it is the same character, but she died in

22:16

the first one. Yeah. I mean, they all died in the first one, except for Ash. So, when Ash goes back

22:21

to the cabin in the second one, who's he with? Or is it starting from Oh. Oh, God. It's been

22:28

so long since I've watched the films. The end of the first movie. It's daytime. Yeah. All the

22:34

evilers subsided. The evilers? Yeah. All every one of them. Every one of the evilers. Bingo.

22:45

The evil subsided in the evil of bless. So now Ash can start making his way from the cabin and out of

22:53

the woods and back home. He drives off in his 91 Impala. I I don't know cars. I just know that's

23:00

a famous That's not a famous car, but he's now a famous car. That's in every Sam Ramy film. Yeah,

23:06

he's he's walking away from the cabin. It cuts to uh the um the point of view of the uh entity.

23:13

Yeah. That's going through the forest and he goes through the back door hands up at him and he goes,

23:19

"Oh, shakes his fist as Ash walks out of the forest or drives out of the forest."

23:26

It goes it pans through the air cabin at the front door where you can see Ash and then it

23:33

gets Ash and that's where it hard coats to black and the credits roll. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

23:38

So the start of uh Evil Dead 2 um it replays the events up until a certain point does it or does

23:47

it replay the events of the entire first film? Uh it there's like five 10 minute recap like with a

23:54

god five 10 minute recaps. Four go. I know it it was it wasn't that long ago when I watched

24:02

it again. That's like 50 minutes of the film. Why? If you don't know this, I'm really bad at math. So

24:09

that took me way too long to work out. And I was impressed that I did simple math that quick. So,

24:17

the retcon of the first movie that's in the recap with Ash doing the voice over and being like,

24:24

"This happened, this and that." And uh this is where I am now type thing. Right. Uh he

24:29

only goes to the cabin with his girlfriend within the recap. Right. So, that's the reccom. Yeah. It

24:36

was just them two. Yeah. Right. Everything else still pretty much happened as it happened. See,

24:41

to me that makes it a reboot cuz it's not a direct sequel. It's like the events are

24:46

different. It is a direct sequel, but to me that's not cuz there's nobody else with them in the Well,


X-Men

24:50

then every Evil Dead movie is a reboot then. Although, it isn't though, is it? Do you know

24:53

what I mean? You could you could say each one takes like the X-Men films. I don't believe

24:57

any of the X-Men films are connected to each other. Everyone None of them are connected to

25:01

each other. No, the continuity makes no sense. They don't sh All right. You're making me angry.

25:13

All right. Okay, tangent. X-Men films, right? X-Men one. It's in It's been a long [ __ ] time.

25:21

Yeah, it's been a long time for me as well. So, continuity wise, you've got Boday Tras in X-Men.

25:30

Um, oh god, Bo Tras was in X2, I believe, or X3, whatever. He was played by to X2. He was

25:40

played by I know he's in Prison Guard. You might have been in Shaw Shank Redemption or not. Who's

25:45

that guy with that shoe face? Was really bad. What was his [ __ ] name? Actually, I can't remember. I

25:51

do. He's been in a couple of horror films. He's got cuz he's got a weird face, you know. Um but

25:56

then in Days of Future Past, am I supposed to believe just cuz timeline shenanigans had he's

26:03

now played by Peter Dinklage, right? There's no amount. Yeah, but that isn't a sequel though, is

26:08

it? But it's a prequel. I thought you were going to go from X-Men 1, then X-Men 2, then X-Men 3,

26:13

which they obviously carry on from each other, don't they? They do carry on from each other, but

26:17

they contradict each other. The other ones, the newer ones, which I always have a problem with,

26:22

and you remind me that I have a problem. I got a problem with the new ones. I only like one new

26:26

Ier ones, they came out like 20 years ago at this point. Oh [ __ ] X-Men First Class is an old film.

26:35

I only like out of the newer ones X-Men First Class and I also like Logan out of the Wolverine

26:42

standalone films. But even the Wolverine standalone films contradict each other. They

26:47

make no sense in timeline wise. Like if you're going to of all the X-Men films as a whole. Well,

26:53

yeah. Well, like the claim there is is is that there's a 10year gap between stories in them.

26:58

is stupid because no one's aging or no they are aging but so you've got Michael Fastbender it

27:06

starts in the 60s starts in the 60s don't it ends in the '9s or 80s but yet X-Men one came out in

27:13

the 2000s that's what they were building up to like cuz X-Men First Class started off as a hard

27:18

reboot but then exe got involved and they're like no these have to connect to the original films

27:24

which is dumb because one uh Xavier got shot in the spine in first class with a deflected bullet

27:31

from Magneto in X-Men 3 in a flashback. He was just walking at like [ __ ] 40 years old anyway or

27:38

whatever he was. Same with the Wolverine Origins. Yeah. You know, it just makes no sense. Emma Frost

27:45

is in like three different films played by three different people. two times she's background and

27:52

then one time she's in X-Men's Wolverine, you know, but yet she's also in First Class. Yeah. So,

27:59

I think the if if you want to do a trilogy of time of films that kind of make sense. I've always said

28:05

and I can't I have thought about this and I can't fault it. X-Men First Class as the first one,

28:12

then X-Men one as the second one, and then end of the series with Logan. Yeah. That to me

28:19

tells I know Logan's not really in first class or Wolverine's not really in first class but he has a

28:24

scene in there but if you're going off Professor X's storyline Yeah. Yeah. Nothing contradicts

28:29

itself cuz none of the gaps are in there. You don't learn about how he like obviously you learn

28:34

about how he sets up the school in first class but there's none of that recruiting Storm Cyclops

28:39

stuff that doesn't make sense if you take first class into account. I think that to me is like the

28:44

proper trilogy of X-Men films. And then all the um [ __ ] in between is like fanfiction or what

28:51

other people have said. Like in Logan, he even has that throwaway line where he goes, "Look, kid,

28:57

a lot of stuff what you read about us isn't true. Some of it might be, some of it might not be." I

29:01

think that's a way of explaining some of the other films. Yeah. It was something like um not all of

29:05

it happened and the stuff that did didn't happen like that. Yeah. So, in my mind, First Class

29:11

X-Men one and Logan are the ones that fit. And to me, they're the best three out of nine films or

29:18

however many there were, cuz I didn't enjoy X-Men 2 when it came out. I didn't enjoy X-Men 3. Um,

29:24

I didn't like Days of Future Past. I know a lot of people did. Couldn't [ __ ] stand it. Um,

29:29

I never saw Dark Phoenix. Yeah, there's a point as well. If they're all in the same [ __ ] universe,

29:34

why is she getting the Phoenix Force in the [ __ ] 80s or 90s or whenever it's set and

29:39

then getting it again in getting it again later on and not remembering anything of it or whatnot.

29:44

Yeah. You know. Yeah. So, no, the X-Men continuity doesn't make any sense. Yeah.

29:50

Yeah. But it only doesn't make sense because one guy said, "Actually, no, they all connect." That's

29:57

that that's the only reason why the continuity doesn't I think the prequel series of X-Men films

30:01

would have been a lot better if they didn't set themselves a one if they were just a reboot. Um,

30:07

no connection to at all. And for that to be I would happily if they just recast Wolverine,

30:12

you know, cuz that's what you want to do with a reboot. And I hope they do recast Wolverine

30:16

at some point in the MCU. Fully aware Hugh J's probably going to be playing him forever.

30:20

Annoying. I'm I'm perfectly fine with that. I'm fine with it. But it goes that thing like, oh,

30:26

only one guy can play this role. I I would like to see an MCU based X-Men film with a completely

30:33

new cast of students, you know, new actors, new everything. I want to see like a a Wolverine actor

30:40

be in his like 30s, 40s, you know what I mean? Something where I know I can watch this franchise

30:47

going forward grow up with this character again and I know he can handle these roles cuz Hu J is

30:52

just getting older and older. I'm fine with him popping in and making appearance. He is. Yeah,

30:56

but he's still he's still perfectly fit to do it. Yeah, he's he is healthy,

31:02

good-looking fella. But by the time we actually get around to MCU X-Men films, will he? No,

31:08

he could get hit by a car tomorrow. Are you driving strong, but he's not get hit by a car?

31:20

Oh, yeah. That's my little X-Men running. Oh, and I didn't see New Apparently that had wasted

31:27

potential. Yeah, I didn't see new mutants. They're all on Disney Plus. Everyone keeps telling me I'm

31:33

like, "Yeah, I know where they are. I know where they are. I am not watching Darkness. I know

31:38

where they are." They also paint themselves in a corner by saying every sequel in the prequel era,

31:44

every sequel has to be set a decade apart. Yeah. Yeah. It made no [ __ ] sense. Oh. Oh. Like,

31:50

but they have to do that if if if they are watch if they all actually connect with each

31:56

other. They have to do that. They have to do the time jumps. Yeah. They have to do

32:00

10 years in between. So by the time X-Men one comes out like Xavier and Magneto like 80 odd,

32:05

you know. But that means in dark characters have aged. Yeah. No, but in in Dark Phoenix

32:15

in Dark Phoenix, Michael Fastbender and um um James Makavoy should be like 70 60. Yeah. Yeah.

32:22

I don't want 70 or 60. I know. I know. Dumb dumb. James Makavoy looks really stupid. Bald

32:29

as well. He does. He should have just kept his hair. Yeah, just I think he shaved it for No,

32:35

he didn't shave it. Why did he lose his hair again? Something to do with Jean

32:39

Gray. Probably she's stressing him out. Jean the [ __ ] Put that down. You're pissing me

32:50

off. Luke. Luke. I'm losing my heart. I did say one of my one of my favorite characters

32:56

was in first class. I thought it was proper wasted. The guy called Darwin who could

33:00

just adapt to anything. Sh character. Good character. Wasted. Bad character. The worst

33:06

character. They just wasted him cuz I'll tell you why. He can adapt to anything. Dies. Yeah,

33:12

exactly. That's why I think he's wasted. He's about as good a character as Superman because

33:17

Super and Batman who have all these instant win buttons on him. That's it. Darwin is an

33:23

instant win character. He's not cuz he's just Yes, he is. He definitely is, man. The levels.

33:34

All like Darwin's a good character. He's not. He was not good in that film. He certainly isn't.

33:40

He's never been a good character. Like he's not going to swim cuz he's not He does because his

33:45

body adapts to anything. Any anything only when only like elemental things that give us water

33:50

heals. I'm telling you anything. Well, how come he died? Because it's a shite movie. First class

33:57

is not sh. No, but he does in like in in the comics his body will just continue to adapt

34:06

until his body can't adapt and he just teleports to safety. But that's it. He just goes, "Oh,

34:12

actually, maybe I can." Yeah, but if you say Yeah, but if you say that possibly cuz he also adapts.

34:20

If a Hulk's under water for a certain period of time, he'll grow gills. If he's in space,

34:24

he'll learn to survive in space. Good. That's going. He literally has the same ability. Like,

34:30

that's something that's never utilized in the films. Anyway, the adapt to his environment. Yeah,

34:36

but it's probably for the best because it's the Hulk. It's not God Darwin. You can't lie

34:45

one character and hate another character for the same thing. No. Right. The Hulk has lost

34:50

fights. He's lost a lot of fights. Right. It doesn't just instantly just be able to

34:56

beat anything ever. Yeah. But some Darwin does same as Superman. Yeah. But some of the fights

35:01

that um the Hulk loses are dumb and they were written long ago. Like, you got to tell me that

35:06

the thing the Thing beat the Hulk in a in a fist fight. That's dumb. And if they ever do that,

35:12

if we're talking like if I see in the if I see in the MCU the Hulk and the Thing having a tussle,

35:19

and I'm pretty sure that's going to happen with Fantastic 4 coming in and everything,

35:22

they're going to have the Hulk versus the Thing. That's going to be a a thing. That's going to

35:29

happen. And if the Hulk even gets close to losing, I'll be annoyed cuz the thing's power level's kind

35:36

of [ __ ] It's stronger than me. What? Yeah, he's probably not as strong as Spider-Man. Spider-Man

35:47

could probably punch a hole through the thing if he didn't hold back. No, he's he's stronger than

35:52

Spider. The thing is stronger than Spider. Yeah. Yeah. Like I mean you you can't who would who's

36:00

winning an arm wrestle between the Thing and the Hulk? Hulk. Point proven. I was wrong all along.

36:11

Who's winning arm wrestle between the thing and Mr. Fantastic? This is an insane question.

36:17

It is an insane question. Take into account his stretchy rubber abilities. Right. Well,

36:22

oh yeah. Let me uh still still the thing. No, no, the Hulk versus Mr. Fant. Oh my. Yeah,

36:31

Hulk then. But what if he um wraps himself all over his arm? Doesn't matter. He's There's nothing

36:38

to arrest. His arm is now Mr. Fantastic sleeve and then he's just wearing a Mr. Fantastic suit

36:47

and he can't get it off. could could wait. Mr. Fantastic can't shrink in size at all, can he?

36:56

Like he can't he can't make any parts of his body thinner or if he just Oh, no. Sorry. Well, yeah,

37:02

he can he can make himself thinner by only by stretching to a certain Does he have an apex

37:08

like a limit? Like Yeah. Yeah, he does. Yeah. An episode of Adventure Time where Jake the dog gets

37:13

stretched so much he's like he wheezes out and he passes out because he can't stretch no more.

37:19

How would it feel like would this kill would theoretically? This is going to be a great

37:24

question. Theoretically though, would this kill the Hulk? Right. The Hulk's the Hulk, right?

37:30

And let's just say he's conscious and he's not ragefield, but he's the Hulk. He goes, he goes to

37:36

Reed Richards like, "Reed, I've been having some problems in the back of my throat. My esophagus is

37:40

flaring up or some shit." And then Re's like, "Let me check on that." He gets his puts on his rubber

37:46

he doesn't call rubber glove cuz he's sick like that. He just stretches into his mouth. But there

37:53

Reed thinks, "You know what? The Hulk's a bit of a menace. Better if he wasn't in the world anymore.

37:59

Maybe I could off him right now." Which is absolutely something Reed Richards would think of.

38:03

Yeah. And then he just carried on stretching. Went all down his throat all the way through all his

38:08

organs and his sin and came out of his bum. And then did what? Nothing. Would that kill the Hulk?

38:17

Just one long stretch from mouth to o. Yeah. Would that would you reckon that

38:24

killer man if someone could put their hand and everything down your throat and pop out

38:29

the other end? Saying the hulk could adapt and probably like breathe through his [ __ ]

38:34

ears or something. I mean the hulk can hold his breath for like hours anyway. Yeah. But then,

38:41

but while he's while Mr. Fantastic put his mouth put his hand through the Hulk's mouth,

38:46

wiggled all down his body, down his intestine, whatnot, popped out of his bum. So, his hands

38:52

out the bum and then what he does, he does this. He flexes. Does that do anything to the Hulk?

39:01

That's like asking me, is is Mr. Fantastic strong enough to do anything to the Hulk anyway? Then,

39:07

no, it wouldn't do anything. Could he stretch inside him? Like, could he put his face inside

39:14

him? Like, if he's not thin enough, this is absolutely something Reed Riches would do.

39:22

He's like, "Oh, let me look at that spleen." There's a bit of a rupture in there. Oh,

39:28

yeah. We've got this medical equipment over here. Like, no, I'll do it myself. He stretches his face

39:32

inside someone's body, but he has to start two miles away to get thin enough so his face can

39:38

fit inside the mouth and he has a little pen pen torch in his mouth. So when he's in there,

39:44

you ever seen the film Inner Space? I have seen the movie like Inner Space a long time ago,

39:49

but I have seen it with um Jack um Jack Quaid. No. Um it's his dad from the


Evil Dead again, and Sam Raimi

39:56

boys. He's Jack Quaid. Yeah, he is Jack. Dennis Quaid. Yeah, Dennis. Yeah. Anyway,

40:01

point being, what do you prefer? The style of Evil Dead one or Evil Dead 2?

40:09

Well, let me explain to you Evil Dead 2 first, right? So, little con, but the the actual first

40:19

scene of Evil Dead 2 picks up directly from the end of Evil Dead one. So, why is his girlfriend

40:27

alive? She isn't. Oh, right. the flashbacks. In the flashbacks, the recap, she's played by

40:33

a different actor. Yes. Yeah. That's why I think it's confusing sometimes. Yeah. So, the dead's

40:41

curse, call it. Uh Ash is essentially a deadite in Evil Dead 2. Yep. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.

40:49

He's like, he is seeing [ __ ] that isn't actually there. Pardon me. Do you know what I mean? So he's

40:59

seeing his dead girlfriend. You tell me the plot of Ether Dead 2 is just Ash going insane in a

41:03

cabin alone. Yeah. That makes the film infinitely better to me. Yeah. That that is Evil Dead too.

41:10

He chops off his arm in Evil Dead too, don't he? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because the infection call is

41:15

starting within his hand. Yeah. And it's starting to spread up his arm. That's when he cuts it off.

41:20

I will say I do miss like I think Sam Sam Ramy is really good at directing horror like

41:26

um I do miss that sort of like he he puts a lot of goofy [ __ ] into his films like Did you ever

41:32

see Drag Me to Hell? Yes. I really [ __ ] enjoy Drag Me to Hell. Um but it had that classic Samur

41:39

goofy vibe to it. Like some scenes like objects are like way bigger than what they should be.

41:45

Eyes there. There's literally a scene in um it's so evil Dead in Dragon to Hell where I think an

41:50

anvil or something falls on somebody's heads and their eyes pop out like it's [ __ ] Looney Tunes

41:56

and it's insane. And then again, it ends on a down note where she actually does get dragged to hell

42:02

at the very end. Yeah. But again, I think that was a No one talks about that film anymore, you know.

42:06

Yeah. I know. Um, and I think it's even watching the original Spider-Man trilogy that Sam Ramy did,

42:16

he has those classic Evil Dead elements to it. You know, those quick zooms, those like sort of

42:22

crash cuts. Like I reckon and and this is to me a sign of a good director is when you can watch a

42:30

film and you can tell who the director is without knowing who the director is because of the style.

42:36

Which is why you'll see in um Hot Fuzz, Shaun of the Dead, all those films by Edgar Wright,

42:44

he has said in interviews, "Oh yeah, I just stole Sam Ramy's style." That's why he does those quick

42:50

cuts, those quick action sequences where it's zoom zoom zoom, you know, fast this, fast that,

42:55

you know, lacing, but he does it to a comic effect rather than a horror effect. But he's literally

42:59

said, "Oh yeah, Sam is my favorite director. I'm just I'm taking his style." So, well, influenced

43:05

by his style. He's not just like stealing. And I I really like that. And I think um a lot of

43:10

people say Multiverse of Madness wasn't a great film. I really enjoyed it. And I think Sam Ramy's

43:16

horror elements to it really elevated the film to a certain level cuz there's some shots in there

43:21

I'm like, "Oh, that's creepy." It's not a scary film by any means, but there's creepiness to it.

43:25

Like when W's walking around looking for her kids and there's one point where she looks directly at

43:30

the camera and it does make you feel a little bit uneasy. I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] I'm watching an MCU

43:34

film right now." But yeah, I do miss those proper elements of like what Evil Dead one was. There's

43:42

like hardly any goofiness in Evil Dead one. Yeah. And I like that. Like forever stuck with

43:48

me. His it was his girlfriend who was trapped in the cellar on it or some other [ __ ] Um,

43:54

no, it wasn't his girlfriend or nothing. It's been a long time since I've seen the first one.

43:58

Some chick trapped in the cellar, but that's the iconic image. It's like she keeps popping up and

44:02

banging on the door. [ __ ] terrified me as like a teenager or child and it still like lives rent

44:07

free in my head. Like that image, you know what I mean? It's like that's terrifying. But yeah,

44:12

I would say of either the one and two, I prefer two, but I respect one a hell of a lot and I

44:17

still love them both equally. But I think I just prefer the silliness to it because I know if I

44:22

watch Evil Dead one, I'm going to feel uneasy and I want somebody watching it with me. If I watch

44:27

Evil Dead 2, happily watch on my own. That's the That's the difference. Same with Army Dis,

44:34

I suppose, which again has another little Connelly segment, the start, you know,

44:40

Ash Williams doing the voice over. This is what happened. This is how I got here. Yeah. Cuz at

44:44

the end of Evil Dead 2, as he goes through the portal and he goes back into medieval times,

44:49

the rest. Yeah. With the hot places. Yeah. At the end of Evil Dead 2, when he meets Janine Gwuff.

45:01

Uh yeah, he's he's held it as like a savior. He's come from the sky. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

45:07

Well, the start of uh Army of Darkness, he's been dragged to be uh imprisoned, didn't he? Yeah.

45:14

Yeah. Yeah. He is. Do you know what I mean? So, they've reckoned a little bit because this is the

45:18

story that they want to tell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that makes sense. That's only the same as

45:24

what they did from first to second film. Just I've just changed this little bit because that's this

45:28

is the story I want out of one and two because they are very similar. Which is your favorite?

45:32

Maybe the first one to be honest with you. Yeah, it's a proper for me. It's a proper reverse

45:37

alien alien situation. Aliens is the sillier one. It's not It's not funny. It's not funny.

45:45

It's just silly cuz you've got a thousand aliens and some good home marines [ __ ] popping off

45:52

aliens a minute, you know? I'm like, yeah, it's silly. It's It's macho. It's whatever. I don't

45:56

like it as much as the first one. Still really like it. Don't like it as much as the first one.


The Cabin in the Woods

46:00

For me, Evil Dead's like reverse, I suppose. Did you ever see um what do you think of Cabin in the

46:06

Woods? Which is I really liked that. I really liked it. Obviously an Evil Dead homage. Yeah.

46:12

Evil Dead probably started the trope of we're a bunch of teenagers and we're staying in a

46:15

cabin in the woods. Yeah. They did it with a the PlayStation game. Yeah. Yeah. Say same thing. But

46:23

I really like Cabin in the Woods. And I like the fact that it wasn't just Oh, here we go again.

46:26

It's this same old story. There's a twist to it which has all other horror films could potentially

46:33

take place in this universe if you believe that there's a collection of there's a what is it

46:40

um group of people an agency an agency of of people a very very secret agency working for some

46:47

ancient gods that demand sacrifices in very silly cliche horror film ways. Yeah. you know, but as

46:54

soon as the um the fourth wall, so to speak, was broken that film and we the curtain was unveiled,

47:00

I'm like, "Oh, it is something different." And it completely took me by surprise the first time

47:04

I watched it. I watched I watched at the cinema and I had no idea it was going to be that. I just

47:10

thought, "Oh, here's an Evil Dead style film. This could be fun." But yeah, the the whole the behind

47:16

the curtain [ __ ] was [ __ ] fantastic. And I'd love to see another film set in that world.

47:21

Maybe not set after that film because I think canonically the world got destroyed by the

47:25

end. Yeah, it did. Yeah. Which again that ended filled me by complete surprise. Giant hand out

47:31

the ground. Oh, Titans are rising. Earth's gone, you know. But yeah, just to me every horror film,

47:38

the sort of tropes of all horror films are all set in that universe canonically in my head and it's

47:44

just people pulling the strings going, "Oh, we've got to make this chick dumb. We've got to make

47:48

this guy sexy. We've got to make these guys [ __ ] in this area because it appeases this and it does

47:53

this. Uh because um it's it's less the people. It's more archetypes of people need to be killed.

48:02

Yeah. So the fool, the lover, the Yeah. Yeah. Which again is a really good way. They aren't

48:08

the only agency. There's agencies all over the world. Yeah. There is some Japanese ones as well,

48:12

which is so all your Japanese horrors are also set in that world and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's

48:18

really [ __ ] good. Brilliant movie. Such a good way of like dissecting the horror tropes and doing

48:24

something different to it. Like we're going to do a horror film. Yeah. We're going to take these

48:28

archetypes. It's all the same. You know, you got your jock, you've got your love interest,

48:33

you've got your stoner, and we're going to have a reason for everything. So [ __ ] good. I would

48:39

love another film set in that world. Yeah. just something or just about the agency itself or how

48:45

the agency got set up or whatnot because there's that list of spooky horror monsters and I know for

48:51

rights reasons but you know full well there's like there's a pin head in there you know it's it's

48:56

not hell razor Yeah I don't know what they're called but yeah they are essentially they are

49:03

uh cenabites yeah there's there's just a load of like horror villains in there that aren't they're

49:08

like your spirit Halloween costume version of villain cuz they don't have the rights to use it

49:13

or whatever. They've got to use like [ __ ] things as like the guy with bus. It's called uh the Lord

49:19

of Pain, isn't he? But I think you don't see him in a I think you see him like Walker as well,

49:24

but he's holding an object. It's not a cube. I think it's like a sphere or something. But then

49:30

I'm thinking of the horror film The Sphere, which I've never seen. Wait, no, I'm getting confused.

49:37

It's not called The Spear. This The Sphere is a completely different film. underwater weird

49:43

I think things in it from Jurassic Park Sam Neil Sphere's weird um I can't remember off top of my

49:49

head but there's Fantasma something I'm thinking of what's it called it's that sphere which is the

49:54

mcguffin in it but it has two spikes sticking out of it old '7s film franchise it's like fantasma

50:00

something or other you must have heard of it at the moment I have no idea what you're talking

50:05

about but I know for a fact that if you show me a picture now I'll go oh [ __ ] Yeah, of course

50:11

it is. You know, it's just one of them things like you have to find the key to unlock it in my brain.

50:18

Fantasm from 1979. Oh, yeah. You know what? Yeah, that does look familiar. I've never seen it, but

50:24

I've seen No, I haven't either. The DVD covers of it a lot. And I thought, oh, that's interesting.

50:29

Just a ball with spikes. I think that's just the McGuffin. God, that's Fantasm 4. That ball's got

50:35

bigger spikes on it. It's got a dick spike on it. It looks like the lost [ __ ] dildo from

50:43

[ __ ] seven. It's got four dildos on it. Look at Look at this guy. [ __ ] Christ. Thanos or

50:50

something. He looks like a the demon headmaster. No. Cuz he does. I can't think of his name. The

51:01

guy from Ghostbusters 2. What a pack. I think he was in I think he was in the first one. Um,

51:15

what's the big bud called his name? Oh,

51:19

you mean um the scourge of Kapathia? How the [ __ ] do I know that noise?

51:27

VGO. Yeah, Vgo. Yeah. Yeah. The scourge of Kapathia.

51:34

As if I got his title before his [ __ ] name. The [ __ ] is up in my brain? [ __ ] lord. Oh god.

51:42

What was the schedule called? [ __ ] hell. That came up in a pub quiz. And flumx. You want to get

51:50

it? Um, and in this film, who was the scourge of Kapathia? [ __ ] I know. I know that. I know that

52:01

title. [ __ ] Oh my god. To be fair, that's one of those pub quiz questions where it's meant to

52:06

get you. Like everybody knows it, but you don't know it. Yeah, cuz if it's written like that,


Even more Evil Dead

52:11

it's weird. But yeah, [ __ ] hell. Anyway, that was um Evil Dead talk. Well, I still have more

52:20

to say about Evil Dead to be honest with you. Sure. More to say about Evil Dead. Yeah. At

52:24

the end of Evil Dead 3, Army of Darkness. Um can I admit something dead quick? Yes,

52:29

please. Never seen Evil Dead 3. You've never seen Army of Darkness? That's nonsense. I know it's

52:33

nonsense. That is It's criminal. And I feel embarrassed every time every every time they

52:39

cuz I've seen I've seen every evil film except for that one. Even the two new ones, you know,

52:44

obviously. But yeah, it's embarrassing. Then I won't say a lot about uh talk about it. What I

52:52

will say is um at the end um I won't say a lot about the ending. No, spill it. I don't mind. I

53:01

know my spoilers. I'll still see it at some point. Anyway, it it shows you this um like a dystopian

53:10

modern day where like the earth is broken. It's like the uh apocalypse has happened. Does he go

53:16

back to working at [ __ ] Kmart or wherever he's working? Esmart. Esmart. I was so close with K.

53:21

Shop smart. Shop smart. Shops smart. Kmart's the actual real world equivalent. Yeah. So yeah, it a

53:28

lot of stuff happens in Army Daras to be honest with you. A lot of uh medieval old timey sort

53:35

of nonsense. Medieval [ __ ] Um does he encounter Daniel for a to skew? No, cuz he didn't exist yet.

53:49

But he gets he gets given away to go back to his his time. Yeah. to go back

53:54

into the future without any sort of aging or anything like that. He takes whatever it is,

54:01

does the incantation. Um, but he goes a bit too far forwards. I mean, no,

54:09

he didn't he didn't like a woman. He didn't sexually abuse a dead eyee.

54:16

There was no sexual assault. That's what you're supposed to kill them. What are

54:20

you doing? Oh god. I'm just taking my time with this one. Groovy. No,

54:26

that makes it worse. My god. This is my food stick.

54:34

Jesus Christ. Ash, you've gone too far. Stop it. [ __ ] hell. He go he goes too far into

54:45

the future. Um, he just the future and he uh he wakes up ash assaults of Delorean. He he

54:55

wakes up in this broken world where like everything's rusted like skyscrapers have

55:01

fallen like the dead eyes have won. Yeah, they didn't do a fourth movie. Or they did,

55:06

but it was a remake of the first one. Um, but they do a TV show still with Ash Williams. Is that set

55:13

in its own continuity or does it continue or does it just assume that he managed to go back in time,

55:17

fix everything in between? It's supposed to be a continuation, but it's not set in that

55:23

post-apocalyptic world. Season 4 was going to be set in that post in that post-apocalypse world,

55:30

right? Well, it got cancelled. Show got cancelled. Never made it. There's an anime coming out. It'll

55:35

it'll it'll probably be about that. I really hope so because do you think the um going forward with

55:41

Evil Dead with the Ash Williams story do you think so the Evil Dead TV series do you think

55:48

it's a version of Ash that never went back in time or does he reference that he went back in

55:52

time and it is it is the Ash Williams so how is it that the entire series takes place in not this

56:00

dystopian future but season 4 does or was meant to you can sort of put it down to they just like

56:07

some recon just change the story. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, fair enough. Does he does

56:12

he reference going back in time? Yeah. Oh, fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'll he like Well,

56:17

I mean I was I was going to say he references all three movies, but one and two is Yeah. is

56:22

is is very s like practically the same film. Story wise, it's only two days in it as well.

56:33

So yeah, there there's probably not a lot for him to talk about from there, but no, he does he does,

56:37

you know, he's like, "Oh yeah, I found this book, did this, did that." Yeah, he is he is

56:42

the Ash Williams from the movies. Head cannon wise, I think I'd have to tell it in a certain

56:48

way. It's like each one's in a slightly different universe, like one over, you know, not drastically

56:54

different, but yeah, the events happen, but things slightly different. Like maybe his car's not like

57:00

a pale blue or whatever it is and it's a yellow in this univer. I think it's yellow anyway. Is

57:05

it? I genuinely can't remember what blue his car is. It's either going to be like a dirty yellow,

57:09

a brown or a pale green. What if you think about it like this, right? Because he's recounting these

57:15

stories himself. And we know this because he's he he is doing the voice over recaps. You got

57:21

to tell me he's an unreliable narrator and he's just making [ __ ] up. I think that he's telling

57:28

these stories in increments like he's not doing it from start to finish. Maybe he's telling a few

57:33

different people and maybe he's misremembering something like like say if he's he's telling

57:39

someone new a story and he's misremembering exactly what did I go to the shops this morning or

57:45

did did I get thrust back into medieval times and fight an army of the dead? Oh [ __ ] my memory.

57:52

Oh, I think I think it was the Army of the Dead [ __ ] cuz I don't remember coming back

57:59

with milk and bread. Must have been the Army of the Dead [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.

58:11

Oh my lord. Yeah, TV show is really good. Yeah, I know. I need I need to watch it. It's still

58:16

got that same It It feels like it's purposefully low budget. Is Remy involved in any way or is he

58:22

just a producer? I genuinely can't remember. He seems too big for doing TV. He does. Yeah. Yeah.

58:29

I I imagine he is a producer though because I know Remy is a producer on the reboots of the

58:34

Evil Dead. Oh yeah, he is a producer. But then again, so's um so's Bruce Campbell.

58:41

Bruce Campbell's a producer of the reboots of Evil Dead as well. Yeah, he is. Yeah. I mean,

58:44

he had that wasted cameo at the end of the first one, which made no sense, but And the second one,

58:52

I really did like that. I just thought it was very dark. Like, I was struggling to see. Yeah.

58:56

Turn the lights on. Exactly. God damn thing. It was like watching Alien versus Predator Recre

59:04

using his Christian name. Have you seen Alien versus Predator Recre? Uh,

59:10

no, I've not actually. Honestly, I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] I bet this Pratt alien looks [ __ ] cool.

59:15

Wish I could see it. It's like the silhouette of it." That's one of those films which always gets

59:21

lambasted about it being really [ __ ] dark. And no matter what you do to your TV settings,

59:26

you just cannot see [ __ ] Yeah. Horrible. Like, I'm sure it's a bad film anyway cuz the first

59:31

Alien versus Predator is not that great. It's fun, silly nonsense, but it's all right. Yeah.

59:38

You know, and obviously seeing a the whole crux of or the whole grabbing point of seeing Alien

59:46

versus Predator 2 Reququum is uh we're finally going to see a Pred Alien on screen. Yeah. Yeah.

59:56

How funny would it be if there was an alien film where um xenomorph latches not xenomorph the face

1:00:03

latches on to you but you're set in modern day so like I know they're set in the future anyway

1:00:11

but you're set in 2024 whatever we are latches on latches on to like a 30-year-old someone our

1:00:17

age and then the alien like comes out the chest and when it's fully formed it just has depression

1:00:26

Because that's that's a millennial alien. That's the defining trait

1:00:31

of this alien in in 2024. Oh god, this alien. Oh,

1:00:37

I'm terrified. It's all right. He's just staying over there by himself. I don't think

1:00:41

he's bothering anyone. Just scrolling from his phone in the corner. Oh, he's doom scrolling.

1:00:50

Get him off Tik Tok. Farming for likes. Yeah, but I don't think they selfies. Felt cute.


General Cubic Nonsense

1:01:00

Might delete. The millennials. Oh, speaking of millennials, I say something, guys. So,

1:01:07

um before we started recording, I I started talking about someone I work with leaving

1:01:12

for go traveling for a bit. Um my boss was recommending films. Anyway, she was going over to

1:01:16

um a friend's house to watch some films or whatnot, just chill out, probably, you know,

1:01:21

to it was one of those other guys invited me over. She sent me a message saying, "Oh,

1:01:26

um he's inviting me over." I was like, "Oh, yeah, let me know how it goes tonight." And she's like,

1:01:29

"Yeah, yeah, let you know how it goes. It's cool." And oh, he's he's told me the Wi-Fi is down. And

1:01:33

I was like, "Oh, I has it." You know, like I know what the act starts early. The act starts

1:01:41

early. The Wi-Fi is done. So, we can't watch any films. And I went, "Is he not getting any DVDs?"

1:01:46

And he went, "It's not the [ __ ] Middle Ages, Mike. Why would he have DVDs?" Well,

1:01:51

he had DVDs. I was like, "Shit, then fine. Has he got any [ __ ] Yeah, [ __ ] me. Has he got any

1:01:57

Blu-rays?" And then her next reply was, "You're such a [ __ ] millennial for owning disc films,

1:02:06

for owning DVDs and Blu-rays. I'm a [ __ ] millennial." So, and then that like I know I not

1:02:12

bought a film or a DVD in ages because one they're not readily available and two most things do just

1:02:18

go to streaming anywhere. Yeah. You know, like most of the films I watch anything Marvel and Star

1:02:23

Wars, it's going to be on Disney. I don't need to buy I don't need to buy a collection and they're

1:02:28

not going to leave that service anytime soon because that's their bread and butter. You know,

1:02:32

Star Wars and Marvel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not going to go anywhere. Well, the thing is,

1:02:36

and I know that you feel the same way, it's just nice to own something in it. You know

1:02:40

what I mean? Absolutely. Like, if I do see a film, I'll buy it. Like, I bought Oppenheimer.

1:02:45

You know what I mean? That's a film that I want to own. Also, I know it's not on any streaming

1:02:49

service because it's weird cuz it's Nolan and he doesn't like that [ __ ] you know? He's like, "No,

1:02:56

my films need to be consumed in a certain way or whatnot. I don't want want it to be like this."

1:03:03

So silly though. Why Why is he letting it be put on DVD? It's not just that. It's what I mean. It's

1:03:10

not that. It's that I think Oh, Oppenheim was put up by Universal um because he fell out with Warner

1:03:15

Brothers because they put his film on streaming straight away. Um Tenant and that's why Tenant

1:03:20

didn't do well in the cinema cuz it was available during straight away on HBO. Okay. And he was

1:03:24

like, I don't agree with this. I want people to watch it in the cinema on the big screen.

1:03:27

But they were like, no, we're putting it day one on HBO. So he left Warner Brothers completely. So

1:03:33

he's now with Universal Pictures. And Universal Pictures don't have their own streaming service

1:03:38

anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So obviously yet yet? No. But um down the line it'll probably be on Amazon Prime

1:03:46

or Netflix or something, you know. I'm sure I've seen the his Batman films on there or something.

1:03:52

But no, they're No, they wouldn't have been cuz they're all on HBO, which is Warner Brothers

1:03:56

streaming service. I'm pretty sure I was seen some of his Batman movies maybe on Yeah, something say

1:04:01

there's a lot of Warner Brothers properties in the UK because we don't have HBO over here.

1:04:06

That's why we've got like Justice League the animated series, Batman the animated series,

1:04:10

um Superman on Netflix in the UK because we don't have HBO, you know. But if we did have HBO, I'd

1:04:18

probably dip into it every now and again because I want to watch the [ __ ] Penguin. But um saying

1:04:25

that I just need to buy a subscription to Sky now I think it's called the you watch some Atlant Sky

1:04:31

Atlantic shows have HBO shows on there. I don't know how it [ __ ] works but yeah cuz yeah Game

1:04:38

of Thrones is HBO as well it and that's on Sky. So if I do want to watch the Penguin I'll wait till

1:04:44

it's all done and I'll just get a buy subscription to that for a week and you know cuz I do want to

1:04:50

watch it. I want to see more of that Penguin. I want to see more of that accent. Best penguin.

1:04:54

Best penguin. Eat a dick. Danny Devito. D a dick. Wait, no. Wait. I've confused myself. I'm trying

1:05:03

to confuse. I'm trying to say eat a dick. Danny DeVito, but I want to replace Devito and Dick

1:05:08

around. I want to call him Danny Deicko or Dicky Devito, but I can't. Dicky Devito was also said

1:05:17

uh so ether Dan Dicky Devito. That's the words that I swapped. Yeah. Get a boat. Eat a D. Danny

1:05:25

dick vele. Get Ben. Get Just get Ben. Get fell. [ __ ] you guy. Actually mean [ __ ] you guy. Get

1:05:41

bent fella. Oh my god. Oh my god. What? And then I bite his nose and say, "How do you like?" Oh my

1:05:50

god. Cuz that's traumatized me as a child. Like 80 years old now. Just bullying an old old man. Hey,

1:06:00

he's 8 years old, but he still manages to do a lot of unhinged [ __ ] I know his son. Yeah, I know.

1:06:06

And that's still going. So I think he can take a nose bite. So he's like a salt to me. I'll be

1:06:10

honest with you. I don't know. I think he's more inclined to pepper. Such a bad joke. Why don't we

1:06:16

talk about another movie? Have we got time? What we on? Yeah, we've got a bit of time. How long has

1:06:21

this gone on for? You've not held up the sign. Um I haven't because uh we were already past it to be

1:06:27

honest with you. I was thinking uh I was thinking we do a spook part three. We keep this series part

1:06:34

three. We've I'm saying it's 7:00. No, we need to be leave. The part is in the cube. Oh yeah. You

1:06:43

forget the cube. It's so universe. The cube time all exists. The pie is in 997. We're late. Oh my

1:06:50

god, we're really late then. The part is also in 2034. We still late. We We could probably get away

1:06:55

with doing one more though. You want talk You want to talk about a full film? You realize we

1:07:00

spoke about Evil Dead longer than we spoke about Human Centipede. That is true. But this is there's

1:07:06

a lot of movies to Evil Dead. There's a TV show as well. And you also wanted to talk about X-Men

1:07:12

in the middle of it. I don't want to. It just happened. We spoke about continuity and then

1:07:18

that just got triggered. I think we should have a part three. We're going to have to cuz we only

1:07:24

talked about one movie. Yeah. We've not even spoke about games yet. I know. This is the Evil Dead

1:07:29

podcast or literature either. Oh god. Right. We'll have to shoehorn part three. Spook into films and

1:07:37

literature. Spooktacular. Yeah. Well, I have I I still have like three more things written down

1:07:45

movie wise. That's like 3 hours long. I know. No, it is. But this is one of them consists of eight

1:07:52

movies, nine movies as well. Here's the thing, right? Which I am condensing. Yeah. John Carpet

1:07:59

does the thing again. That's what we're going to talk about again. Right. Here's what I'm thinking

1:08:03

real quick. You can cut this out. You can leave it in. If this becomes a fourpart horror thing,

1:08:09

that's one week for October. Sorry, one week for one. One a week for October. And that's

1:08:16

spook month covered. Perfect. Release this next October month. Release this October 2025. And

1:08:21

it's fine. By then, we might have an audience. We'll have that content. We'll have that listener

1:08:31

and it won't be Shagi's mom. One of one of his one of his moms. He has more more parent. He has three

1:08:39

more parents than me. How ridiculous is that? He has two more parents than me. I know I'm bad at

1:08:47

math. Establish. I'm not good at math. No matter how basic. Right. I think we're going to have to

1:08:55

do a four part. We just We just get We just We just yap, don't we? But that's what they tune in

1:09:00

for the yap. The yap. The yapp for the yap. Oh my god. Would have been another good name for a cat.

1:09:07

We still need to buy some walking around wine. The place is still open. I don't [ __ ] know that. I

1:09:14

don't know. Oh god. It's over. It closes in like a few hours time. We're in the cube. It's always

1:09:18

open. So what's your problem? I forget the rules of this universe. I forget it. I forget the law

1:09:26

that we're trying to establish. The trouble is is that we've not fully come up with all of it

1:09:31

yet. Anyway, we we will do it as we go. I know. I know. And then when we've got a couple of fans,

1:09:37

they'll piece it all together. Yeah, they'll they'll do the work. They'll create Cubipedia.

1:09:42

Trapped in the Cubedia and then they'll figure it all out. And then when we do

1:09:47

shows and conventions, they'll go, "Hey, but in episode seven, you hit the xylophone twice and

1:09:56

and um two separate notes were played from the same xylophone,

1:10:01

from the same rib cage." Then fire. You claimed in episode 8,

1:10:06

the cubists were coming. Where are they? Where are they? I am waiting for these cubists.

1:10:19

My [ __ ] lord. What was the um shitty um techno jingle that I was saying at the start of this

1:10:26

episode? Did that even get recorded? [ __ ] I can't remember. Was that in the past one

1:10:30

that got like was that in a separate timeline in the cube? I don't know. Don't know if that

1:10:36

was something like trapped in the cube, but it wasn't trapped in the cube cuz now I'm thinking

1:10:40

of trapped in the cube by a copy nut job and then I was going into [ __ ] [ __ ] What do

1:10:47

you singles that? What? What do you do that for us? That's the only impression I'm going

1:10:54

to do. I know for a fact that's not true. I want to do so much more. Me when I just

1:11:02

me when I meet any girl. So you see my bush. I thought you were just going to go into it. You

1:11:11

seen it boy? Me thumb boy. Me thumb come from a long line of itches. Yo, I can't actually

1:11:23

remember his story or the exact I know it's about a [ __ ] wasp that kept stinging him.

1:11:31

Yeah, it's been such a long time. Made a deal with it at a bin. Yeah,

1:11:37

he made a deal with a bin. I don't remember any of that. I just that's

1:11:42

that's where he kept getting stung. You want to know about math boy? Intriguing,

1:11:46

does it? That come from a long line of itches. This is how I'm trying to remember the exact

1:11:53

dialogue. Some hornet that stung his thumb and he kept going in and out, in and out. But yeah,

1:12:00

sing us the song. I know you want to. That's the thing. I'm getting this wrong. And then I


Mike sings for us

1:12:09

have to do both of the Piper twins bit myself. I'll do that. Oh, but I'm going to do it all.

1:12:19

Walk that job. Have a cup of tea. Have a cup of tea. I'm the hitcher. Let me put

1:12:25

you in the picture. Creeping in the room in the dead of night with my solo polo vision.

1:12:30

That's right. I'm a cocky gazer. Watch me please you. I knew the ripper when he was

1:12:35

just a nipper. I to slice. I cut him up a tree. P a banana. To p your bear. P your

1:12:42

banana to p your bear. P your banana to pound your bear. 14 chillies for your mountains. Oh

1:12:48

yeah. With the Piper twins with Jim and Jackie Piper. Through the night like a

1:12:53

windream wiping you away like raindrops. Don't mess with the boys. Cut your noise.

1:13:02

I can't remember the rest. Oh my god. No. Something about dancing skeletons,

1:13:09

white, blue, and yellow and creeping in the shadows with a moon of a speed of a

1:13:14

cat. If your colors were cross, you ain't going to like that. Oh, me black skull.

1:13:21

Yeah. Thank you for tuning in to part three of trapped in the cube. Spooky hardcore to

1:13:30

the actual right now. Oh yeah, let's just not go. Stop doing that cuz in my head that sounds

1:13:36

amazing and I never want to hear that part. I'm going to play it for you as soon as we

1:13:42

come. Absolutely not. I need a [ __ ] piss. That's another reason why I'm trying to end

1:13:45

it. My god. Cuz my balls are full of Christ. So yeah, that was um the max sing segment in

1:13:54

Oh [ __ ] God trying to sing. There's always a bit where you go, I'm not singing. I'm not

1:14:01

singing. And then you sing. single. Well, you love to do it. That's Want to do it so bad.

1:14:11

[ __ ] Jesus Christ. Right. [ __ ] brilliant. I've not got an outro planned yet. Uh I can't

1:14:18

remember what we did for the first round. No, we did, dude. Oh, it was a nice ch

1:14:30

See you next time again. Bye here.


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