Episode two: The Continuation of Fear
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Spooks in the machine
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Perfect. |
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I'm happy about it. Happy about it. I am very happy about it. It's probably a good job we |
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weren't I mean, it was good conversations that we were having, but it's probably a good job we |
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wasn't recording the last one because um for the first say five minutes of it, my mic was turned |
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up. So, there was I was hearing I was hearing that throughout it. Don't know if it would have picked |
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up. Oh, don't know if it would have picked up on there, but yeah, I don't know either cuz they |
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have these fancy sound balls now. Yeah, I don't know how well they work, but it might alleviate |
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some of the outside world [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Is I mean, it it it definitely will have some uh sound |
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dampening qualities to it. I'll be honest here. Negating the effects of the outside of the cube. |
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Anyway, this is part two. of shout in the cube spooky spooky and then Jack can fuff about with |
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adding a reverb to it. He can do it. I believe in you. I can definitely try. I can definitely |
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try. If you can censor certain words with a banjo string, I think you can add a echoing. |
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I don't think you need I mean you just say it normally. I'll I you can do I can. You don't need |
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to add a reverb to that one. That was perfect. It was fine. Spot the reverb. Spooky. Spooky spooks. |
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One of them will have a reverb. Imperceptible. The audience will never know the difference. Perfect. |
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So, we're on part two of our spooky podcast. Yeah. Uh, still trapped in the cube. That's |
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me and Jack and Ash. Sometimes, uh, another person materializes momentarily. The cubes are |
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[ __ ] universe, man. It's fine. Last time we talked about um talked about the thing, talked |
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about alien. What do we talk about? The thing, you know, the spooky thing. Actually, was it |
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talked about Alien, talked about the ABCs of death, talked about VHS, didn't we? We did. We |
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talked about um Human Centipede for for an absorbent amount of time. Much longer than |
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I thought we would. Too long. Talk to me. Serbian film again for much longer than I |
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thought we would. Probably the length of the film. Uh, talk to me something else as well. |
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Talk to me. I'm talking. Thank you. I'm talking really. Do you know what else we do something |
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else? I'm sure it was something else. I didn't do I've not done enough research about it, but um, |
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Talk to Me was done by a group of like YouTubers and influencers. Oh, that's the people who wrote |
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it and filmed it. I think they're all like thinking. I don't know. It makes me like it a |
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bit less. No. But still a very very good film. What do you hate students or something? Yeah, |
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I hate creativity. I hate young creativity cuz I was never like that when I was a child or a |
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young adult. Jesus Christ. Oh my lord. Uh do you have a uh preference of what we started with this |
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week? Um unless there's any other Hang on. Let me just get me notes up. There's got to be something |
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I missed. Where are we? Cube. Fod for the cube. F for the cube. Sounds like it could be part of |
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um a breakdown techno song. F for the cube. F for the cube. F for the cube. Get some laser |
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noises in there. F for the cube. Cube F. There you go. There's a jingle for you. Oh my god. |
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Hopefully if we ever get like, you know, a fan or a collection of fans, if we ever get a fan, |
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if we ever get we ever find an audience for this [ __ ] in the summer, we'll probably have one in |
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the room, you know. But uh no, if we ever get an enclave of fans, they'll take they'll take that |
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themselves and they'll make a a banging jingle out of it. A little Yeah. Stick it on Tik Tok. |
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Stick it on whatever apps are around at the time. might be something different. We just have to find |
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a listener, a very talented listener who's well better at like sound and [ __ ] than we are. Yeah. |
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Yeah. Did we talk about Alien? We did talk, didn't we? We did talk. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz we said the first |
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one was better than the second one. Both agreed. I was going to say like what's your what sort of |
Saw
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horrors do you prefer watching out of let's say psychological versus gore porn? Uh or silly cuz I |
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think um Evil Dead's a silly horror is it? Yeah. I mean the the first one not so much. Are we are we |
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are we talking about Evil Dead? That's the segue from Evil Dead. Yeah. Should I answer the question |
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first or I don't know. It's up to you. Um, I would say out of those two, it's it's got to be uh the |
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psychological horror because the G porn stuff doesn't usually have any sort of story really |
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to it. Yeah. It's just look at this, then look at this, then look at this, then look at that. Well, |
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the story of G porn is usually um young attractive teens or younger getting chased by something. It's |
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kind of like the slasher genre, isn't it really? No, I don't think so. Like Garon is uh it's it's |
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sore in it. Yeah. Which the whole story line is um use got trapped in a room of carbon monoxide. |
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Is I go up when you're down and then when you kick your legs and you go up I go down. Yeah. |
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No, but yeah, the the guy Jigsaw, he's he has cancer. He's he's dying, right? He's back for |
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the next one, by the way. Stupid. He's died many times. I don't know if he has. Right. Uh yeah, |
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that's that's it. The the story doesn't progress any further than that really. Yeah. It's just |
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here's a person that is kidnapped. this old frail cancer patient with st he has stage four terminal |
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cancer yet he's somehow able to keep kidnapping these he has fit healthy people he has um that |
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woman who does his bidding for him don't he that woman who survived one of his traps who joined |
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him yeah she she came into it in like the second movie though I think I think it was that she was |
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helping he was doing all this [ __ ] nonsense in the second movie. She was already working |
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for him and she was like a spy with the rest of the people. I think that was been that story was |
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told in the fourth or fifth movie, right? I think I don't know. It could have also been told in the |
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second one. I forget. Um I've not seen a lot of the Saw films. I'll take one Saw film that |
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I really did like which is very underrated and a lot of people just forget it's even a |
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Saw film. It's called Spiral and it stars Chris Rock. I've not seen it. I don't know. Not a lot |
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of people did. Um I can't remember much of it, but it's called Spiral. It stars Chris Rock and |
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um Samuel Jackson's his dad and his dad's like an ex cop. Chris Rock's a cop or something. They're |
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investigating killings which are copycat killings which are very similar to the Jigsaw killings, |
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but they're not the Jigsaw killings. And it's like a side spin-off film set in that universe, |
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but it's got nothing to do with Jigsaw or Jigsaw Killer. It's just a story that exists that's kind |
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of connected. I really enjoyed it. Um I think a lot of it was um it took it tackled certain sub |
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um sub subjects like race, police brutality and stuff. Like if if you told me the whole film was |
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written as like um a response to the George Floyd situation that happened in America and |
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cuz apparently it's a passion project to Chris Rock. He was a co-writer on it. Yeah, I'd fully |
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believe it. And it was that film when I watched it I was like you know what I have missed seeing |
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Chris Rock on screen and not just being silly Chris Rock screaming character just being a good |
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actor you know no spiral really good um connected to the song franchise but yeah definitely like |
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if it's on any sort of stream but a lot of people miss that one out and I think it's the better one |
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because it's not mindless gone if anything they're just seeing the effects of the traps you know and |
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aftermath of certain stuff I can't really remember the entire plot of it was 2 years ago when I saw |
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it. Yeah. Very good. Very good. Cool. Cool. I don't mind a lot of gore porn. I think it's great, |
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but only if it's done to a silly amount, like say a Mortal Kombat amount. Like Mortal Kombat film |
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wise, video game wise. They have horror elements, but they're not spooky. Yeah. You know, you do |
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enjoy the blood. Sometimes it's gratuitous, but it's never never makes you wins cuz it's absurd. |
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You blow up a guy and six rib cage pop out of him. Six. God. In the original |
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games. Yeah. They just threw a bunch of bones on there. They just like click more bones. Plumes |
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don't plume. Yeah. God, that guy had three skulls, you know. Obviously this day and age it does look |
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a lot more realistic and grotesque, but it is very absurd. Yeah. Yeah. I know the most popular Gore |
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porn films at the moment are terrify. I've not seen a single one of them. No, I've either. They |
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don't intrigue me, but apparently a lot of people do like them. And the character Art M the Clone, |
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I believe he's called. Probably get some hate for saying I don't like it, but I've never seen it, |
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so I cannot say. And I will not say. I cannot say. And I will not say if I like it or not. If I watch |
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them, I can give an opinion on it. You will never get this information out of me. could a waterboard |
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out of it. Art the clone himself couldn't get Do you like my films? For one, I don't think |
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he talks. I think he's a mute. Maybe he holds up a like a while a coyote style sign for saying yikes. |
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Oh my god. Do you like my films? Tick yes. Tick no. Hands me a note. And if I |
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just like tick the question mark, he just down and tortures me or some [ __ ] Does |
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something. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen some clips. Very violent, but you know, other than that, |
Seven
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I don't know. But you know what? Whatever. But yeah, what else? Yeah. Yeah. I can't |
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think of any good psychological horrors I've seen recently, though. Um, no. I What would |
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you say seven is? That's a psychological one. Is it a horror or is it a thriller? |
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I don't feel scared watching it, but I imagine No, but you get those sort of uh intense feelings |
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though, don't you? Do you know what I mean? It does make your mind go to places. Yeah. The whole |
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lost one specifically and the whole gluttony gluttony what not? Um when they walk in on the |
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um sloth. Yeah. That's not pleasant. It does it does emote those feelings in you. It does invoke, |
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I should say, invoke those feelings in you. You go, "Gh, no." Fun story about seven. I don't I |
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don't know if you knew this, but originally, and I think it's pretty obvious once you you hear it |
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for the first time, but originally it was written as a Batman spec script. I did know that actually. |
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I did know that. Yeah. I don't know if it it was going to be like a Batman film where Batman was in |
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it or he wasn't in it, but it was mostly going to be about Commissioner Gordon, the police, |
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and stuff. And when you rewatch seven, you're like, "Yeah, this shit's Gotham S. This is this |
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is a killer that would exist in Gotham S." Yeah, definitely. You know, and I'm like, you know what? |
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Really good job. So, very good story. Yeah, I like Seven. Seven's probably a good psychological one |
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cuz I think anything psychological is something that makes you feel uneasy. Makes you think no |
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or you think you're going to be scared and you're not actually scared. But it's the anticipation of |
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fear a lot of the times or it makes you go to bed and you still think it makes you go to bed. When |
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you go to bed, you still feel tired after this [ __ ] Oh my god. I'm so scared, but I'm so tired. |
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Oh my god. God, |
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Kevin's face is tucking me in. God, no. Please. No, Kevin, you will go to bed. |
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[ __ ] Jesus Christ. Yeah. You think um if it got spanned out into a fullon Batman story, |
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do you reckon Kevin Space's character would have been Riddler or Joker or It |
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does sort of fit Riddler's emmo? Riddler would be better. Not Not Joker. I I was |
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I was trying to think actually in in sort of secret and then I was I was going to be like, |
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"Hey, you know who the killer would be?" But you just asked me, |
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so I don't really have an answer for you. All right, let's just whittle it down. Clay Clayface. |
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Yo, I I was so quick to get that jerk out, |
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I almost called him Clayman. Clayman. I was like, Clay, Clayman, Mr. Freeze. |
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Zaz could have been a good one. Yeah, Zaz. I don't think it fits the bill, |
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but I think you could rework Zaz into that. Yeah. Do you know what? I was I had I had Zaz |
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in my head. I had Calendar Man. I was thinking that as well. Yeah. These are these are good |
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killers in the Batman world that they've not really utilized in the films. Yeah. |
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Yeah. Has been in a film. Oh, yeah. I think Yeah, he was in um [ __ ] He was in one of |
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the um he was in the second or third film. Oh, he was in a Dark Knight film, one of the norm. |
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Yeah, courtroom scenes as was the But I think that's a character that could have his own |
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film as a main villain. Yeah, definitely. He's a But I think some of these sealist |
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Batman villains will never get their time to shine in a big blockbuster film because |
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they are just a sealist Batman villain. Yeah, because they aren't Joker. Yeah, |
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cuz they're not Joker. They're not Riddler. They're not Too Faced. They're not Penguin. |
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Although I do like Modern Penguin for the um new films. I think he's great. He is good. |
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He's so good. Better than any other penguin before him. Yeah, he eat a dick, Danny Devito. |
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I'd say there's also um speaking of like Danny DeVito's The Penguin, going on back to the horror |
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tangent, bringing it back, Tim Burton films, what genre of horror are they? Kid horror, |
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family horror, cuz they're not scary. They're never scary, but they've got spooky vibes. |
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Um yeah. Yeah. Do you know what? I don't I don't think horror is right. Uh I think it's |
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it's like kid goth in it. Kid goth. Yeah. Yeah. He sang American Badass, didn't he? |
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Yeah, that's kid Goth. For some reason, I'm imagining um you know those very tiny Billy |
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Butcher memes that where he's got his big platform boots on, but it's like a crow duster jacket and |
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he's got eyeliner on and that's Oh [ __ ] it's Kid Goth and then you know Batman just |
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beats the [ __ ] out of it. Yeah, but yeah, like I think Tim Burton tries to encapsulate |
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horror but never quite quirky horror in it. Yeah, like no one's watching Beetlejuice and |
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getting scared or Nightmare Before Christmas, unless you're a child. It's It's more that |
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there's horror elements within a comedy film. It's like a black comedy. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, |
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I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Because you are right there. There's no there's no scares in it. It's just But |
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but there are skeletons and there's there's no scares. But there are skeletons. Yeah. Yeah. |
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And sometimes these skeletons are silly and called Jack. Usually usually they're silly. Couple of |
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jump scares in the first Beetlejuice. I don't know when they pull off the face and then thing. But |
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then again, it's a silly jump scare. It's like a Yeah, that's a a silly jump scare. But isn't the |
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main plot of that Beetlejuice wants to marry like a 12-year-old child? Yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah. So, |
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I don't know. Why Why aren't people looking into Tim Burton more? What's he What was this story? |
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Was he a Diddy party? Was he on Epstein Island? Was he Was he in one of them freak offs? What |
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a horrible thing to like learn. Why did he call it a freak off? Horrible. My god. Cuz um people |
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were getting the freak off apparently. Apparently his lawyer like poo pooed that away as um call it |
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what you want. An org is an orgy. There's only about three or four people involved. I'm like |
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I don't No one No one's calling a threesome or a forome a [ __ ] freak off. That's like a proper |
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smogusborg of just bodies writhing around each other in 8 lb. Just oiled bodies riding. Yeah. |
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just every all over each other just swerving around Hollywood celebrities as far as I can see. |
Evil Dead
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So, going back to um if we could just get back on track now, that'd be really good. Going back |
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to like silly horror or like just I wouldn't even just say like the the first Evil Dead |
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probably tried it tried a really good Dando doing a proper horror film, you know? Yeah. Evil Dead 2 |
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sort of wreck on that and did silly horror cuz it is more of a Some people say it's a sequel, |
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some people say it's a remake. No, it is definitely a sequel. It's absolutely |
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a sequel. It's not a remake. I I don't know. I know there's story elements where it's like why |
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why would he go back to the cabin or is does he go back with another girlfriend and it all |
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happens again? Right. This is the whole thing with the Evil Dead movies or at least the first three |
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because they all take place in their own weird universe. No, the second one's set in the queue. |
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Even Ash was shocked about that. Couldn't believe it. So, at the start of the second movie, it |
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recaps the first movie. It does, but it retcons a lot of the [ __ ] that happened in the first one, |
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which makes it to me to be a reboot cuz how can a sequel just straight up reccon everything? But it |
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does the same in Amidas. It reccons the second movie enough to fit what story they wanted to |
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tell for that film. Like Amy Darkness starts with like the ending of the second one again, |
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doesn't it? But it's different and then he gets dragged into a [ __ ] portal and then |
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it's just a medieval adventure. Yeah. Yeah. But even from him uh being in medieval times Yeah. |
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the restaurant. Yeah. That we don't have in this country. I would love to go to a medieval times. |
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I honestly think the film cable guy when they go to medieval times when that goth chick talks about |
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utensils or big cokes or whatever she's chatting I'm like I think this is the thing that Yeah. Uh |
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I can't remember the actress. Yeah, that's the one. I think she's the one that like got you know |
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what I'm into these type of women. This little six-year-old me on the couch going Yeah. I lie. |
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Daddy like oh my god six-year-old Mike saying that. Yeah. So I really like |
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despondent women that don't care but look spooky. Yeah. That's my type. Yeah. Danny |
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Mike Jr. likes little daddy likes. Yeah. My god. My [ __ ] lord. So go on. Right. First |
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one serious. Second one silly. third one also. It's still it's still pretty serious, |
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but you can tell that it's going into the realm of slapstick. Do you know what I mean? Well, |
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when he's fighting his hand. Yeah. Yeah. But like uh the whole story of the second one is |
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um at the first one, is he lamenting the death of his girlfriend in the second one |
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or is there another fe? I can't remember. It's been ages. Uh he's lamenting the death. Uh, |
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it's it's played by a different actress though, but it is the same character, but she died in |
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the first one. Yeah. I mean, they all died in the first one, except for Ash. So, when Ash goes back |
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to the cabin in the second one, who's he with? Or is it starting from Oh. Oh, God. It's been |
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so long since I've watched the films. The end of the first movie. It's daytime. Yeah. All the |
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evilers subsided. The evilers? Yeah. All every one of them. Every one of the evilers. Bingo. |
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The evil subsided in the evil of bless. So now Ash can start making his way from the cabin and out of |
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the woods and back home. He drives off in his 91 Impala. I I don't know cars. I just know that's |
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a famous That's not a famous car, but he's now a famous car. That's in every Sam Ramy film. Yeah, |
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he's he's walking away from the cabin. It cuts to uh the um the point of view of the uh entity. |
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Yeah. That's going through the forest and he goes through the back door hands up at him and he goes, |
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"Oh, shakes his fist as Ash walks out of the forest or drives out of the forest." |
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It goes it pans through the air cabin at the front door where you can see Ash and then it |
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gets Ash and that's where it hard coats to black and the credits roll. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. |
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So the start of uh Evil Dead 2 um it replays the events up until a certain point does it or does |
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it replay the events of the entire first film? Uh it there's like five 10 minute recap like with a |
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god five 10 minute recaps. Four go. I know it it was it wasn't that long ago when I watched |
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it again. That's like 50 minutes of the film. Why? If you don't know this, I'm really bad at math. So |
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that took me way too long to work out. And I was impressed that I did simple math that quick. So, |
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the retcon of the first movie that's in the recap with Ash doing the voice over and being like, |
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"This happened, this and that." And uh this is where I am now type thing. Right. Uh he |
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only goes to the cabin with his girlfriend within the recap. Right. So, that's the reccom. Yeah. It |
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was just them two. Yeah. Right. Everything else still pretty much happened as it happened. See, |
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to me that makes it a reboot cuz it's not a direct sequel. It's like the events are |
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different. It is a direct sequel, but to me that's not cuz there's nobody else with them in the Well, |
X-Men
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then every Evil Dead movie is a reboot then. Although, it isn't though, is it? Do you know |
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what I mean? You could you could say each one takes like the X-Men films. I don't believe |
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any of the X-Men films are connected to each other. Everyone None of them are connected to |
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each other. No, the continuity makes no sense. They don't sh All right. You're making me angry. |
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All right. Okay, tangent. X-Men films, right? X-Men one. It's in It's been a long [ __ ] time. |
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Yeah, it's been a long time for me as well. So, continuity wise, you've got Boday Tras in X-Men. |
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Um, oh god, Bo Tras was in X2, I believe, or X3, whatever. He was played by to X2. He was |
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played by I know he's in Prison Guard. You might have been in Shaw Shank Redemption or not. Who's |
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that guy with that shoe face? Was really bad. What was his [ __ ] name? Actually, I can't remember. I |
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do. He's been in a couple of horror films. He's got cuz he's got a weird face, you know. Um but |
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then in Days of Future Past, am I supposed to believe just cuz timeline shenanigans had he's |
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now played by Peter Dinklage, right? There's no amount. Yeah, but that isn't a sequel though, is |
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it? But it's a prequel. I thought you were going to go from X-Men 1, then X-Men 2, then X-Men 3, |
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which they obviously carry on from each other, don't they? They do carry on from each other, but |
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they contradict each other. The other ones, the newer ones, which I always have a problem with, |
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and you remind me that I have a problem. I got a problem with the new ones. I only like one new |
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Ier ones, they came out like 20 years ago at this point. Oh [ __ ] X-Men First Class is an old film. |
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I only like out of the newer ones X-Men First Class and I also like Logan out of the Wolverine |
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standalone films. But even the Wolverine standalone films contradict each other. They |
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make no sense in timeline wise. Like if you're going to of all the X-Men films as a whole. Well, |
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yeah. Well, like the claim there is is is that there's a 10year gap between stories in them. |
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is stupid because no one's aging or no they are aging but so you've got Michael Fastbender it |
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starts in the 60s starts in the 60s don't it ends in the '9s or 80s but yet X-Men one came out in |
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the 2000s that's what they were building up to like cuz X-Men First Class started off as a hard |
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reboot but then exe got involved and they're like no these have to connect to the original films |
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which is dumb because one uh Xavier got shot in the spine in first class with a deflected bullet |
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from Magneto in X-Men 3 in a flashback. He was just walking at like [ __ ] 40 years old anyway or |
27:38 |
whatever he was. Same with the Wolverine Origins. Yeah. You know, it just makes no sense. Emma Frost |
27:45 |
is in like three different films played by three different people. two times she's background and |
27:52 |
then one time she's in X-Men's Wolverine, you know, but yet she's also in First Class. Yeah. So, |
27:59 |
I think the if if you want to do a trilogy of time of films that kind of make sense. I've always said |
28:05 |
and I can't I have thought about this and I can't fault it. X-Men First Class as the first one, |
28:12 |
then X-Men one as the second one, and then end of the series with Logan. Yeah. That to me |
28:19 |
tells I know Logan's not really in first class or Wolverine's not really in first class but he has a |
28:24 |
scene in there but if you're going off Professor X's storyline Yeah. Yeah. Nothing contradicts |
28:29 |
itself cuz none of the gaps are in there. You don't learn about how he like obviously you learn |
28:34 |
about how he sets up the school in first class but there's none of that recruiting Storm Cyclops |
28:39 |
stuff that doesn't make sense if you take first class into account. I think that to me is like the |
28:44 |
proper trilogy of X-Men films. And then all the um [ __ ] in between is like fanfiction or what |
28:51 |
other people have said. Like in Logan, he even has that throwaway line where he goes, "Look, kid, |
28:57 |
a lot of stuff what you read about us isn't true. Some of it might be, some of it might not be." I |
29:01 |
think that's a way of explaining some of the other films. Yeah. It was something like um not all of |
29:05 |
it happened and the stuff that did didn't happen like that. Yeah. So, in my mind, First Class |
29:11 |
X-Men one and Logan are the ones that fit. And to me, they're the best three out of nine films or |
29:18 |
however many there were, cuz I didn't enjoy X-Men 2 when it came out. I didn't enjoy X-Men 3. Um, |
29:24 |
I didn't like Days of Future Past. I know a lot of people did. Couldn't [ __ ] stand it. Um, |
29:29 |
I never saw Dark Phoenix. Yeah, there's a point as well. If they're all in the same [ __ ] universe, |
29:34 |
why is she getting the Phoenix Force in the [ __ ] 80s or 90s or whenever it's set and |
29:39 |
then getting it again in getting it again later on and not remembering anything of it or whatnot. |
29:44 |
Yeah. You know. Yeah. So, no, the X-Men continuity doesn't make any sense. Yeah. |
29:50 |
Yeah. But it only doesn't make sense because one guy said, "Actually, no, they all connect." That's |
29:57 |
that that's the only reason why the continuity doesn't I think the prequel series of X-Men films |
30:01 |
would have been a lot better if they didn't set themselves a one if they were just a reboot. Um, |
30:07 |
no connection to at all. And for that to be I would happily if they just recast Wolverine, |
30:12 |
you know, cuz that's what you want to do with a reboot. And I hope they do recast Wolverine |
30:16 |
at some point in the MCU. Fully aware Hugh J's probably going to be playing him forever. |
30:20 |
Annoying. I'm I'm perfectly fine with that. I'm fine with it. But it goes that thing like, oh, |
30:26 |
only one guy can play this role. I I would like to see an MCU based X-Men film with a completely |
30:33 |
new cast of students, you know, new actors, new everything. I want to see like a a Wolverine actor |
30:40 |
be in his like 30s, 40s, you know what I mean? Something where I know I can watch this franchise |
30:47 |
going forward grow up with this character again and I know he can handle these roles cuz Hu J is |
30:52 |
just getting older and older. I'm fine with him popping in and making appearance. He is. Yeah, |
30:56 |
but he's still he's still perfectly fit to do it. Yeah, he's he is healthy, |
31:02 |
good-looking fella. But by the time we actually get around to MCU X-Men films, will he? No, |
31:08 |
he could get hit by a car tomorrow. Are you driving strong, but he's not get hit by a car? |
31:20 |
Oh, yeah. That's my little X-Men running. Oh, and I didn't see New Apparently that had wasted |
31:27 |
potential. Yeah, I didn't see new mutants. They're all on Disney Plus. Everyone keeps telling me I'm |
31:33 |
like, "Yeah, I know where they are. I know where they are. I am not watching Darkness. I know |
31:38 |
where they are." They also paint themselves in a corner by saying every sequel in the prequel era, |
31:44 |
every sequel has to be set a decade apart. Yeah. Yeah. It made no [ __ ] sense. Oh. Oh. Like, |
31:50 |
but they have to do that if if if they are watch if they all actually connect with each |
31:56 |
other. They have to do that. They have to do the time jumps. Yeah. They have to do |
32:00 |
10 years in between. So by the time X-Men one comes out like Xavier and Magneto like 80 odd, |
32:05 |
you know. But that means in dark characters have aged. Yeah. No, but in in Dark Phoenix |
32:15 |
in Dark Phoenix, Michael Fastbender and um um James Makavoy should be like 70 60. Yeah. Yeah. |
32:22 |
I don't want 70 or 60. I know. I know. Dumb dumb. James Makavoy looks really stupid. Bald |
32:29 |
as well. He does. He should have just kept his hair. Yeah, just I think he shaved it for No, |
32:35 |
he didn't shave it. Why did he lose his hair again? Something to do with Jean |
32:39 |
Gray. Probably she's stressing him out. Jean the [ __ ] Put that down. You're pissing me |
32:50 |
off. Luke. Luke. I'm losing my heart. I did say one of my one of my favorite characters |
32:56 |
was in first class. I thought it was proper wasted. The guy called Darwin who could |
33:00 |
just adapt to anything. Sh character. Good character. Wasted. Bad character. The worst |
33:06 |
character. They just wasted him cuz I'll tell you why. He can adapt to anything. Dies. Yeah, |
33:12 |
exactly. That's why I think he's wasted. He's about as good a character as Superman because |
33:17 |
Super and Batman who have all these instant win buttons on him. That's it. Darwin is an |
33:23 |
instant win character. He's not cuz he's just Yes, he is. He definitely is, man. The levels. |
33:34 |
All like Darwin's a good character. He's not. He was not good in that film. He certainly isn't. |
33:40 |
He's never been a good character. Like he's not going to swim cuz he's not He does because his |
33:45 |
body adapts to anything. Any anything only when only like elemental things that give us water |
33:50 |
heals. I'm telling you anything. Well, how come he died? Because it's a shite movie. First class |
33:57 |
is not sh. No, but he does in like in in the comics his body will just continue to adapt |
34:06 |
until his body can't adapt and he just teleports to safety. But that's it. He just goes, "Oh, |
34:12 |
actually, maybe I can." Yeah, but if you say Yeah, but if you say that possibly cuz he also adapts. |
34:20 |
If a Hulk's under water for a certain period of time, he'll grow gills. If he's in space, |
34:24 |
he'll learn to survive in space. Good. That's going. He literally has the same ability. Like, |
34:30 |
that's something that's never utilized in the films. Anyway, the adapt to his environment. Yeah, |
34:36 |
but it's probably for the best because it's the Hulk. It's not God Darwin. You can't lie |
34:45 |
one character and hate another character for the same thing. No. Right. The Hulk has lost |
34:50 |
fights. He's lost a lot of fights. Right. It doesn't just instantly just be able to |
34:56 |
beat anything ever. Yeah. But some Darwin does same as Superman. Yeah. But some of the fights |
35:01 |
that um the Hulk loses are dumb and they were written long ago. Like, you got to tell me that |
35:06 |
the thing the Thing beat the Hulk in a in a fist fight. That's dumb. And if they ever do that, |
35:12 |
if we're talking like if I see in the if I see in the MCU the Hulk and the Thing having a tussle, |
35:19 |
and I'm pretty sure that's going to happen with Fantastic 4 coming in and everything, |
35:22 |
they're going to have the Hulk versus the Thing. That's going to be a a thing. That's going to |
35:29 |
happen. And if the Hulk even gets close to losing, I'll be annoyed cuz the thing's power level's kind |
35:36 |
of [ __ ] It's stronger than me. What? Yeah, he's probably not as strong as Spider-Man. Spider-Man |
35:47 |
could probably punch a hole through the thing if he didn't hold back. No, he's he's stronger than |
35:52 |
Spider. The thing is stronger than Spider. Yeah. Yeah. Like I mean you you can't who would who's |
36:00 |
winning an arm wrestle between the Thing and the Hulk? Hulk. Point proven. I was wrong all along. |
36:11 |
Who's winning arm wrestle between the thing and Mr. Fantastic? This is an insane question. |
36:17 |
It is an insane question. Take into account his stretchy rubber abilities. Right. Well, |
36:22 |
oh yeah. Let me uh still still the thing. No, no, the Hulk versus Mr. Fant. Oh my. Yeah, |
36:31 |
Hulk then. But what if he um wraps himself all over his arm? Doesn't matter. He's There's nothing |
36:38 |
to arrest. His arm is now Mr. Fantastic sleeve and then he's just wearing a Mr. Fantastic suit |
36:47 |
and he can't get it off. could could wait. Mr. Fantastic can't shrink in size at all, can he? |
36:56 |
Like he can't he can't make any parts of his body thinner or if he just Oh, no. Sorry. Well, yeah, |
37:02 |
he can he can make himself thinner by only by stretching to a certain Does he have an apex |
37:08 |
like a limit? Like Yeah. Yeah, he does. Yeah. An episode of Adventure Time where Jake the dog gets |
37:13 |
stretched so much he's like he wheezes out and he passes out because he can't stretch no more. |
37:19 |
How would it feel like would this kill would theoretically? This is going to be a great |
37:24 |
question. Theoretically though, would this kill the Hulk? Right. The Hulk's the Hulk, right? |
37:30 |
And let's just say he's conscious and he's not ragefield, but he's the Hulk. He goes, he goes to |
37:36 |
Reed Richards like, "Reed, I've been having some problems in the back of my throat. My esophagus is |
37:40 |
flaring up or some shit." And then Re's like, "Let me check on that." He gets his puts on his rubber |
37:46 |
he doesn't call rubber glove cuz he's sick like that. He just stretches into his mouth. But there |
37:53 |
Reed thinks, "You know what? The Hulk's a bit of a menace. Better if he wasn't in the world anymore. |
37:59 |
Maybe I could off him right now." Which is absolutely something Reed Richards would think of. |
38:03 |
Yeah. And then he just carried on stretching. Went all down his throat all the way through all his |
38:08 |
organs and his sin and came out of his bum. And then did what? Nothing. Would that kill the Hulk? |
38:17 |
Just one long stretch from mouth to o. Yeah. Would that would you reckon that |
38:24 |
killer man if someone could put their hand and everything down your throat and pop out |
38:29 |
the other end? Saying the hulk could adapt and probably like breathe through his [ __ ] |
38:34 |
ears or something. I mean the hulk can hold his breath for like hours anyway. Yeah. But then, |
38:41 |
but while he's while Mr. Fantastic put his mouth put his hand through the Hulk's mouth, |
38:46 |
wiggled all down his body, down his intestine, whatnot, popped out of his bum. So, his hands |
38:52 |
out the bum and then what he does, he does this. He flexes. Does that do anything to the Hulk? |
39:01 |
That's like asking me, is is Mr. Fantastic strong enough to do anything to the Hulk anyway? Then, |
39:07 |
no, it wouldn't do anything. Could he stretch inside him? Like, could he put his face inside |
39:14 |
him? Like, if he's not thin enough, this is absolutely something Reed Riches would do. |
39:22 |
He's like, "Oh, let me look at that spleen." There's a bit of a rupture in there. Oh, |
39:28 |
yeah. We've got this medical equipment over here. Like, no, I'll do it myself. He stretches his face |
39:32 |
inside someone's body, but he has to start two miles away to get thin enough so his face can |
39:38 |
fit inside the mouth and he has a little pen pen torch in his mouth. So when he's in there, |
39:44 |
you ever seen the film Inner Space? I have seen the movie like Inner Space a long time ago, |
39:49 |
but I have seen it with um Jack um Jack Quaid. No. Um it's his dad from the |
Evil Dead again, and Sam Raimi
39:56 |
boys. He's Jack Quaid. Yeah, he is Jack. Dennis Quaid. Yeah, Dennis. Yeah. Anyway, |
40:01 |
point being, what do you prefer? The style of Evil Dead one or Evil Dead 2? |
40:09 |
Well, let me explain to you Evil Dead 2 first, right? So, little con, but the the actual first |
40:19 |
scene of Evil Dead 2 picks up directly from the end of Evil Dead one. So, why is his girlfriend |
40:27 |
alive? She isn't. Oh, right. the flashbacks. In the flashbacks, the recap, she's played by |
40:33 |
a different actor. Yes. Yeah. That's why I think it's confusing sometimes. Yeah. So, the dead's |
40:41 |
curse, call it. Uh Ash is essentially a deadite in Evil Dead 2. Yep. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. |
40:49 |
He's like, he is seeing [ __ ] that isn't actually there. Pardon me. Do you know what I mean? So he's |
40:59 |
seeing his dead girlfriend. You tell me the plot of Ether Dead 2 is just Ash going insane in a |
41:03 |
cabin alone. Yeah. That makes the film infinitely better to me. Yeah. That that is Evil Dead too. |
41:10 |
He chops off his arm in Evil Dead too, don't he? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because the infection call is |
41:15 |
starting within his hand. Yeah. And it's starting to spread up his arm. That's when he cuts it off. |
41:20 |
I will say I do miss like I think Sam Sam Ramy is really good at directing horror like |
41:26 |
um I do miss that sort of like he he puts a lot of goofy [ __ ] into his films like Did you ever |
41:32 |
see Drag Me to Hell? Yes. I really [ __ ] enjoy Drag Me to Hell. Um but it had that classic Samur |
41:39 |
goofy vibe to it. Like some scenes like objects are like way bigger than what they should be. |
41:45 |
Eyes there. There's literally a scene in um it's so evil Dead in Dragon to Hell where I think an |
41:50 |
anvil or something falls on somebody's heads and their eyes pop out like it's [ __ ] Looney Tunes |
41:56 |
and it's insane. And then again, it ends on a down note where she actually does get dragged to hell |
42:02 |
at the very end. Yeah. But again, I think that was a No one talks about that film anymore, you know. |
42:06 |
Yeah. I know. Um, and I think it's even watching the original Spider-Man trilogy that Sam Ramy did, |
42:16 |
he has those classic Evil Dead elements to it. You know, those quick zooms, those like sort of |
42:22 |
crash cuts. Like I reckon and and this is to me a sign of a good director is when you can watch a |
42:30 |
film and you can tell who the director is without knowing who the director is because of the style. |
42:36 |
Which is why you'll see in um Hot Fuzz, Shaun of the Dead, all those films by Edgar Wright, |
42:44 |
he has said in interviews, "Oh yeah, I just stole Sam Ramy's style." That's why he does those quick |
42:50 |
cuts, those quick action sequences where it's zoom zoom zoom, you know, fast this, fast that, |
42:55 |
you know, lacing, but he does it to a comic effect rather than a horror effect. But he's literally |
42:59 |
said, "Oh yeah, Sam is my favorite director. I'm just I'm taking his style." So, well, influenced |
43:05 |
by his style. He's not just like stealing. And I I really like that. And I think um a lot of |
43:10 |
people say Multiverse of Madness wasn't a great film. I really enjoyed it. And I think Sam Ramy's |
43:16 |
horror elements to it really elevated the film to a certain level cuz there's some shots in there |
43:21 |
I'm like, "Oh, that's creepy." It's not a scary film by any means, but there's creepiness to it. |
43:25 |
Like when W's walking around looking for her kids and there's one point where she looks directly at |
43:30 |
the camera and it does make you feel a little bit uneasy. I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] I'm watching an MCU |
43:34 |
film right now." But yeah, I do miss those proper elements of like what Evil Dead one was. There's |
43:42 |
like hardly any goofiness in Evil Dead one. Yeah. And I like that. Like forever stuck with |
43:48 |
me. His it was his girlfriend who was trapped in the cellar on it or some other [ __ ] Um, |
43:54 |
no, it wasn't his girlfriend or nothing. It's been a long time since I've seen the first one. |
43:58 |
Some chick trapped in the cellar, but that's the iconic image. It's like she keeps popping up and |
44:02 |
banging on the door. [ __ ] terrified me as like a teenager or child and it still like lives rent |
44:07 |
free in my head. Like that image, you know what I mean? It's like that's terrifying. But yeah, |
44:12 |
I would say of either the one and two, I prefer two, but I respect one a hell of a lot and I |
44:17 |
still love them both equally. But I think I just prefer the silliness to it because I know if I |
44:22 |
watch Evil Dead one, I'm going to feel uneasy and I want somebody watching it with me. If I watch |
44:27 |
Evil Dead 2, happily watch on my own. That's the That's the difference. Same with Army Dis, |
44:34 |
I suppose, which again has another little Connelly segment, the start, you know, |
44:40 |
Ash Williams doing the voice over. This is what happened. This is how I got here. Yeah. Cuz at |
44:44 |
the end of Evil Dead 2, as he goes through the portal and he goes back into medieval times, |
44:49 |
the rest. Yeah. With the hot places. Yeah. At the end of Evil Dead 2, when he meets Janine Gwuff. |
45:01 |
Uh yeah, he's he's held it as like a savior. He's come from the sky. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. |
45:07 |
Well, the start of uh Army of Darkness, he's been dragged to be uh imprisoned, didn't he? Yeah. |
45:14 |
Yeah. Yeah. He is. Do you know what I mean? So, they've reckoned a little bit because this is the |
45:18 |
story that they want to tell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that makes sense. That's only the same as |
45:24 |
what they did from first to second film. Just I've just changed this little bit because that's this |
45:28 |
is the story I want out of one and two because they are very similar. Which is your favorite? |
45:32 |
Maybe the first one to be honest with you. Yeah, it's a proper for me. It's a proper reverse |
45:37 |
alien alien situation. Aliens is the sillier one. It's not It's not funny. It's not funny. |
45:45 |
It's just silly cuz you've got a thousand aliens and some good home marines [ __ ] popping off |
45:52 |
aliens a minute, you know? I'm like, yeah, it's silly. It's It's macho. It's whatever. I don't |
45:56 |
like it as much as the first one. Still really like it. Don't like it as much as the first one. |
The Cabin in the Woods
46:00 |
For me, Evil Dead's like reverse, I suppose. Did you ever see um what do you think of Cabin in the |
46:06 |
Woods? Which is I really liked that. I really liked it. Obviously an Evil Dead homage. Yeah. |
46:12 |
Evil Dead probably started the trope of we're a bunch of teenagers and we're staying in a |
46:15 |
cabin in the woods. Yeah. They did it with a the PlayStation game. Yeah. Yeah. Say same thing. But |
46:23 |
I really like Cabin in the Woods. And I like the fact that it wasn't just Oh, here we go again. |
46:26 |
It's this same old story. There's a twist to it which has all other horror films could potentially |
46:33 |
take place in this universe if you believe that there's a collection of there's a what is it |
46:40 |
um group of people an agency an agency of of people a very very secret agency working for some |
46:47 |
ancient gods that demand sacrifices in very silly cliche horror film ways. Yeah. you know, but as |
46:54 |
soon as the um the fourth wall, so to speak, was broken that film and we the curtain was unveiled, |
47:00 |
I'm like, "Oh, it is something different." And it completely took me by surprise the first time |
47:04 |
I watched it. I watched I watched at the cinema and I had no idea it was going to be that. I just |
47:10 |
thought, "Oh, here's an Evil Dead style film. This could be fun." But yeah, the the whole the behind |
47:16 |
the curtain [ __ ] was [ __ ] fantastic. And I'd love to see another film set in that world. |
47:21 |
Maybe not set after that film because I think canonically the world got destroyed by the |
47:25 |
end. Yeah, it did. Yeah. Which again that ended filled me by complete surprise. Giant hand out |
47:31 |
the ground. Oh, Titans are rising. Earth's gone, you know. But yeah, just to me every horror film, |
47:38 |
the sort of tropes of all horror films are all set in that universe canonically in my head and it's |
47:44 |
just people pulling the strings going, "Oh, we've got to make this chick dumb. We've got to make |
47:48 |
this guy sexy. We've got to make these guys [ __ ] in this area because it appeases this and it does |
47:53 |
this. Uh because um it's it's less the people. It's more archetypes of people need to be killed. |
48:02 |
Yeah. So the fool, the lover, the Yeah. Yeah. Which again is a really good way. They aren't |
48:08 |
the only agency. There's agencies all over the world. Yeah. There is some Japanese ones as well, |
48:12 |
which is so all your Japanese horrors are also set in that world and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's |
48:18 |
really [ __ ] good. Brilliant movie. Such a good way of like dissecting the horror tropes and doing |
48:24 |
something different to it. Like we're going to do a horror film. Yeah. We're going to take these |
48:28 |
archetypes. It's all the same. You know, you got your jock, you've got your love interest, |
48:33 |
you've got your stoner, and we're going to have a reason for everything. So [ __ ] good. I would |
48:39 |
love another film set in that world. Yeah. just something or just about the agency itself or how |
48:45 |
the agency got set up or whatnot because there's that list of spooky horror monsters and I know for |
48:51 |
rights reasons but you know full well there's like there's a pin head in there you know it's it's |
48:56 |
not hell razor Yeah I don't know what they're called but yeah they are essentially they are |
49:03 |
uh cenabites yeah there's there's just a load of like horror villains in there that aren't they're |
49:08 |
like your spirit Halloween costume version of villain cuz they don't have the rights to use it |
49:13 |
or whatever. They've got to use like [ __ ] things as like the guy with bus. It's called uh the Lord |
49:19 |
of Pain, isn't he? But I think you don't see him in a I think you see him like Walker as well, |
49:24 |
but he's holding an object. It's not a cube. I think it's like a sphere or something. But then |
49:30 |
I'm thinking of the horror film The Sphere, which I've never seen. Wait, no, I'm getting confused. |
49:37 |
It's not called The Spear. This The Sphere is a completely different film. underwater weird |
49:43 |
I think things in it from Jurassic Park Sam Neil Sphere's weird um I can't remember off top of my |
49:49 |
head but there's Fantasma something I'm thinking of what's it called it's that sphere which is the |
49:54 |
mcguffin in it but it has two spikes sticking out of it old '7s film franchise it's like fantasma |
50:00 |
something or other you must have heard of it at the moment I have no idea what you're talking |
50:05 |
about but I know for a fact that if you show me a picture now I'll go oh [ __ ] Yeah, of course |
50:11 |
it is. You know, it's just one of them things like you have to find the key to unlock it in my brain. |
50:18 |
Fantasm from 1979. Oh, yeah. You know what? Yeah, that does look familiar. I've never seen it, but |
50:24 |
I've seen No, I haven't either. The DVD covers of it a lot. And I thought, oh, that's interesting. |
50:29 |
Just a ball with spikes. I think that's just the McGuffin. God, that's Fantasm 4. That ball's got |
50:35 |
bigger spikes on it. It's got a dick spike on it. It looks like the lost [ __ ] dildo from |
50:43 |
[ __ ] seven. It's got four dildos on it. Look at Look at this guy. [ __ ] Christ. Thanos or |
50:50 |
something. He looks like a the demon headmaster. No. Cuz he does. I can't think of his name. The |
51:01 |
guy from Ghostbusters 2. What a pack. I think he was in I think he was in the first one. Um, |
51:15 |
what's the big bud called his name? Oh, |
51:19 |
you mean um the scourge of Kapathia? How the [ __ ] do I know that noise? |
51:27 |
VGO. Yeah, Vgo. Yeah. Yeah. The scourge of Kapathia. |
51:34 |
As if I got his title before his [ __ ] name. The [ __ ] is up in my brain? [ __ ] lord. Oh god. |
51:42 |
What was the schedule called? [ __ ] hell. That came up in a pub quiz. And flumx. You want to get |
51:50 |
it? Um, and in this film, who was the scourge of Kapathia? [ __ ] I know. I know that. I know that |
52:01 |
title. [ __ ] Oh my god. To be fair, that's one of those pub quiz questions where it's meant to |
52:06 |
get you. Like everybody knows it, but you don't know it. Yeah, cuz if it's written like that, |
Even more Evil Dead
52:11 |
it's weird. But yeah, [ __ ] hell. Anyway, that was um Evil Dead talk. Well, I still have more |
52:20 |
to say about Evil Dead to be honest with you. Sure. More to say about Evil Dead. Yeah. At |
52:24 |
the end of Evil Dead 3, Army of Darkness. Um can I admit something dead quick? Yes, |
52:29 |
please. Never seen Evil Dead 3. You've never seen Army of Darkness? That's nonsense. I know it's |
52:33 |
nonsense. That is It's criminal. And I feel embarrassed every time every every time they |
52:39 |
cuz I've seen I've seen every evil film except for that one. Even the two new ones, you know, |
52:44 |
obviously. But yeah, it's embarrassing. Then I won't say a lot about uh talk about it. What I |
52:52 |
will say is um at the end um I won't say a lot about the ending. No, spill it. I don't mind. I |
53:01 |
know my spoilers. I'll still see it at some point. Anyway, it it shows you this um like a dystopian |
53:10 |
modern day where like the earth is broken. It's like the uh apocalypse has happened. Does he go |
53:16 |
back to working at [ __ ] Kmart or wherever he's working? Esmart. Esmart. I was so close with K. |
53:21 |
Shop smart. Shop smart. Shops smart. Kmart's the actual real world equivalent. Yeah. So yeah, it a |
53:28 |
lot of stuff happens in Army Daras to be honest with you. A lot of uh medieval old timey sort |
53:35 |
of nonsense. Medieval [ __ ] Um does he encounter Daniel for a to skew? No, cuz he didn't exist yet. |
53:49 |
But he gets he gets given away to go back to his his time. Yeah. to go back |
53:54 |
into the future without any sort of aging or anything like that. He takes whatever it is, |
54:01 |
does the incantation. Um, but he goes a bit too far forwards. I mean, no, |
54:09 |
he didn't he didn't like a woman. He didn't sexually abuse a dead eyee. |
54:16 |
There was no sexual assault. That's what you're supposed to kill them. What are |
54:20 |
you doing? Oh god. I'm just taking my time with this one. Groovy. No, |
54:26 |
that makes it worse. My god. This is my food stick. |
54:34 |
Jesus Christ. Ash, you've gone too far. Stop it. [ __ ] hell. He go he goes too far into |
54:45 |
the future. Um, he just the future and he uh he wakes up ash assaults of Delorean. He he |
54:55 |
wakes up in this broken world where like everything's rusted like skyscrapers have |
55:01 |
fallen like the dead eyes have won. Yeah, they didn't do a fourth movie. Or they did, |
55:06 |
but it was a remake of the first one. Um, but they do a TV show still with Ash Williams. Is that set |
55:13 |
in its own continuity or does it continue or does it just assume that he managed to go back in time, |
55:17 |
fix everything in between? It's supposed to be a continuation, but it's not set in that |
55:23 |
post-apocalyptic world. Season 4 was going to be set in that post in that post-apocalypse world, |
55:30 |
right? Well, it got cancelled. Show got cancelled. Never made it. There's an anime coming out. It'll |
55:35 |
it'll it'll probably be about that. I really hope so because do you think the um going forward with |
55:41 |
Evil Dead with the Ash Williams story do you think so the Evil Dead TV series do you think |
55:48 |
it's a version of Ash that never went back in time or does he reference that he went back in |
55:52 |
time and it is it is the Ash Williams so how is it that the entire series takes place in not this |
56:00 |
dystopian future but season 4 does or was meant to you can sort of put it down to they just like |
56:07 |
some recon just change the story. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, fair enough. Does he does |
56:12 |
he reference going back in time? Yeah. Oh, fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He'll he like Well, |
56:17 |
I mean I was I was going to say he references all three movies, but one and two is Yeah. is |
56:22 |
is is very s like practically the same film. Story wise, it's only two days in it as well. |
56:33 |
So yeah, there there's probably not a lot for him to talk about from there, but no, he does he does, |
56:37 |
you know, he's like, "Oh yeah, I found this book, did this, did that." Yeah, he is he is |
56:42 |
the Ash Williams from the movies. Head cannon wise, I think I'd have to tell it in a certain |
56:48 |
way. It's like each one's in a slightly different universe, like one over, you know, not drastically |
56:54 |
different, but yeah, the events happen, but things slightly different. Like maybe his car's not like |
57:00 |
a pale blue or whatever it is and it's a yellow in this univer. I think it's yellow anyway. Is |
57:05 |
it? I genuinely can't remember what blue his car is. It's either going to be like a dirty yellow, |
57:09 |
a brown or a pale green. What if you think about it like this, right? Because he's recounting these |
57:15 |
stories himself. And we know this because he's he he is doing the voice over recaps. You got |
57:21 |
to tell me he's an unreliable narrator and he's just making [ __ ] up. I think that he's telling |
57:28 |
these stories in increments like he's not doing it from start to finish. Maybe he's telling a few |
57:33 |
different people and maybe he's misremembering something like like say if he's he's telling |
57:39 |
someone new a story and he's misremembering exactly what did I go to the shops this morning or |
57:45 |
did did I get thrust back into medieval times and fight an army of the dead? Oh [ __ ] my memory. |
57:52 |
Oh, I think I think it was the Army of the Dead [ __ ] cuz I don't remember coming back |
57:59 |
with milk and bread. Must have been the Army of the Dead [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. |
58:11 |
Oh my lord. Yeah, TV show is really good. Yeah, I know. I need I need to watch it. It's still |
58:16 |
got that same It It feels like it's purposefully low budget. Is Remy involved in any way or is he |
58:22 |
just a producer? I genuinely can't remember. He seems too big for doing TV. He does. Yeah. Yeah. |
58:29 |
I I imagine he is a producer though because I know Remy is a producer on the reboots of the |
58:34 |
Evil Dead. Oh yeah, he is a producer. But then again, so's um so's Bruce Campbell. |
58:41 |
Bruce Campbell's a producer of the reboots of Evil Dead as well. Yeah, he is. Yeah. I mean, |
58:44 |
he had that wasted cameo at the end of the first one, which made no sense, but And the second one, |
58:52 |
I really did like that. I just thought it was very dark. Like, I was struggling to see. Yeah. |
58:56 |
Turn the lights on. Exactly. God damn thing. It was like watching Alien versus Predator Recre |
59:04 |
using his Christian name. Have you seen Alien versus Predator Recre? Uh, |
59:10 |
no, I've not actually. Honestly, I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] I bet this Pratt alien looks [ __ ] cool. |
59:15 |
Wish I could see it. It's like the silhouette of it." That's one of those films which always gets |
59:21 |
lambasted about it being really [ __ ] dark. And no matter what you do to your TV settings, |
59:26 |
you just cannot see [ __ ] Yeah. Horrible. Like, I'm sure it's a bad film anyway cuz the first |
59:31 |
Alien versus Predator is not that great. It's fun, silly nonsense, but it's all right. Yeah. |
59:38 |
You know, and obviously seeing a the whole crux of or the whole grabbing point of seeing Alien |
59:46 |
versus Predator 2 Reququum is uh we're finally going to see a Pred Alien on screen. Yeah. Yeah. |
59:56 |
How funny would it be if there was an alien film where um xenomorph latches not xenomorph the face |
1:00:03 |
latches on to you but you're set in modern day so like I know they're set in the future anyway |
1:00:11 |
but you're set in 2024 whatever we are latches on latches on to like a 30-year-old someone our |
1:00:17 |
age and then the alien like comes out the chest and when it's fully formed it just has depression |
1:00:26 |
Because that's that's a millennial alien. That's the defining trait |
1:00:31 |
of this alien in in 2024. Oh god, this alien. Oh, |
1:00:37 |
I'm terrified. It's all right. He's just staying over there by himself. I don't think |
1:00:41 |
he's bothering anyone. Just scrolling from his phone in the corner. Oh, he's doom scrolling. |
1:00:50 |
Get him off Tik Tok. Farming for likes. Yeah, but I don't think they selfies. Felt cute. |
General Cubic Nonsense
1:01:00 |
Might delete. The millennials. Oh, speaking of millennials, I say something, guys. So, |
1:01:07 |
um before we started recording, I I started talking about someone I work with leaving |
1:01:12 |
for go traveling for a bit. Um my boss was recommending films. Anyway, she was going over to |
1:01:16 |
um a friend's house to watch some films or whatnot, just chill out, probably, you know, |
1:01:21 |
to it was one of those other guys invited me over. She sent me a message saying, "Oh, |
1:01:26 |
um he's inviting me over." I was like, "Oh, yeah, let me know how it goes tonight." And she's like, |
1:01:29 |
"Yeah, yeah, let you know how it goes. It's cool." And oh, he's he's told me the Wi-Fi is down. And |
1:01:33 |
I was like, "Oh, I has it." You know, like I know what the act starts early. The act starts |
1:01:41 |
early. The Wi-Fi is done. So, we can't watch any films. And I went, "Is he not getting any DVDs?" |
1:01:46 |
And he went, "It's not the [ __ ] Middle Ages, Mike. Why would he have DVDs?" Well, |
1:01:51 |
he had DVDs. I was like, "Shit, then fine. Has he got any [ __ ] Yeah, [ __ ] me. Has he got any |
1:01:57 |
Blu-rays?" And then her next reply was, "You're such a [ __ ] millennial for owning disc films, |
1:02:06 |
for owning DVDs and Blu-rays. I'm a [ __ ] millennial." So, and then that like I know I not |
1:02:12 |
bought a film or a DVD in ages because one they're not readily available and two most things do just |
1:02:18 |
go to streaming anywhere. Yeah. You know, like most of the films I watch anything Marvel and Star |
1:02:23 |
Wars, it's going to be on Disney. I don't need to buy I don't need to buy a collection and they're |
1:02:28 |
not going to leave that service anytime soon because that's their bread and butter. You know, |
1:02:32 |
Star Wars and Marvel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not going to go anywhere. Well, the thing is, |
1:02:36 |
and I know that you feel the same way, it's just nice to own something in it. You know |
1:02:40 |
what I mean? Absolutely. Like, if I do see a film, I'll buy it. Like, I bought Oppenheimer. |
1:02:45 |
You know what I mean? That's a film that I want to own. Also, I know it's not on any streaming |
1:02:49 |
service because it's weird cuz it's Nolan and he doesn't like that [ __ ] you know? He's like, "No, |
1:02:56 |
my films need to be consumed in a certain way or whatnot. I don't want want it to be like this." |
1:03:03 |
So silly though. Why Why is he letting it be put on DVD? It's not just that. It's what I mean. It's |
1:03:10 |
not that. It's that I think Oh, Oppenheim was put up by Universal um because he fell out with Warner |
1:03:15 |
Brothers because they put his film on streaming straight away. Um Tenant and that's why Tenant |
1:03:20 |
didn't do well in the cinema cuz it was available during straight away on HBO. Okay. And he was |
1:03:24 |
like, I don't agree with this. I want people to watch it in the cinema on the big screen. |
1:03:27 |
But they were like, no, we're putting it day one on HBO. So he left Warner Brothers completely. So |
1:03:33 |
he's now with Universal Pictures. And Universal Pictures don't have their own streaming service |
1:03:38 |
anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So obviously yet yet? No. But um down the line it'll probably be on Amazon Prime |
1:03:46 |
or Netflix or something, you know. I'm sure I've seen the his Batman films on there or something. |
1:03:52 |
But no, they're No, they wouldn't have been cuz they're all on HBO, which is Warner Brothers |
1:03:56 |
streaming service. I'm pretty sure I was seen some of his Batman movies maybe on Yeah, something say |
1:04:01 |
there's a lot of Warner Brothers properties in the UK because we don't have HBO over here. |
1:04:06 |
That's why we've got like Justice League the animated series, Batman the animated series, |
1:04:10 |
um Superman on Netflix in the UK because we don't have HBO, you know. But if we did have HBO, I'd |
1:04:18 |
probably dip into it every now and again because I want to watch the [ __ ] Penguin. But um saying |
1:04:25 |
that I just need to buy a subscription to Sky now I think it's called the you watch some Atlant Sky |
1:04:31 |
Atlantic shows have HBO shows on there. I don't know how it [ __ ] works but yeah cuz yeah Game |
1:04:38 |
of Thrones is HBO as well it and that's on Sky. So if I do want to watch the Penguin I'll wait till |
1:04:44 |
it's all done and I'll just get a buy subscription to that for a week and you know cuz I do want to |
1:04:50 |
watch it. I want to see more of that Penguin. I want to see more of that accent. Best penguin. |
1:04:54 |
Best penguin. Eat a dick. Danny Devito. D a dick. Wait, no. Wait. I've confused myself. I'm trying |
1:05:03 |
to confuse. I'm trying to say eat a dick. Danny DeVito, but I want to replace Devito and Dick |
1:05:08 |
around. I want to call him Danny Deicko or Dicky Devito, but I can't. Dicky Devito was also said |
1:05:17 |
uh so ether Dan Dicky Devito. That's the words that I swapped. Yeah. Get a boat. Eat a D. Danny |
1:05:25 |
dick vele. Get Ben. Get Just get Ben. Get fell. [ __ ] you guy. Actually mean [ __ ] you guy. Get |
1:05:41 |
bent fella. Oh my god. Oh my god. What? And then I bite his nose and say, "How do you like?" Oh my |
1:05:50 |
god. Cuz that's traumatized me as a child. Like 80 years old now. Just bullying an old old man. Hey, |
1:06:00 |
he's 8 years old, but he still manages to do a lot of unhinged [ __ ] I know his son. Yeah, I know. |
1:06:06 |
And that's still going. So I think he can take a nose bite. So he's like a salt to me. I'll be |
1:06:10 |
honest with you. I don't know. I think he's more inclined to pepper. Such a bad joke. Why don't we |
1:06:16 |
talk about another movie? Have we got time? What we on? Yeah, we've got a bit of time. How long has |
1:06:21 |
this gone on for? You've not held up the sign. Um I haven't because uh we were already past it to be |
1:06:27 |
honest with you. I was thinking uh I was thinking we do a spook part three. We keep this series part |
1:06:34 |
three. We've I'm saying it's 7:00. No, we need to be leave. The part is in the cube. Oh yeah. You |
1:06:43 |
forget the cube. It's so universe. The cube time all exists. The pie is in 997. We're late. Oh my |
1:06:50 |
god, we're really late then. The part is also in 2034. We still late. We We could probably get away |
1:06:55 |
with doing one more though. You want talk You want to talk about a full film? You realize we |
1:07:00 |
spoke about Evil Dead longer than we spoke about Human Centipede. That is true. But this is there's |
1:07:06 |
a lot of movies to Evil Dead. There's a TV show as well. And you also wanted to talk about X-Men |
1:07:12 |
in the middle of it. I don't want to. It just happened. We spoke about continuity and then |
1:07:18 |
that just got triggered. I think we should have a part three. We're going to have to cuz we only |
1:07:24 |
talked about one movie. Yeah. We've not even spoke about games yet. I know. This is the Evil Dead |
1:07:29 |
podcast or literature either. Oh god. Right. We'll have to shoehorn part three. Spook into films and |
1:07:37 |
literature. Spooktacular. Yeah. Well, I have I I still have like three more things written down |
1:07:45 |
movie wise. That's like 3 hours long. I know. No, it is. But this is one of them consists of eight |
1:07:52 |
movies, nine movies as well. Here's the thing, right? Which I am condensing. Yeah. John Carpet |
1:07:59 |
does the thing again. That's what we're going to talk about again. Right. Here's what I'm thinking |
1:08:03 |
real quick. You can cut this out. You can leave it in. If this becomes a fourpart horror thing, |
1:08:09 |
that's one week for October. Sorry, one week for one. One a week for October. And that's |
1:08:16 |
spook month covered. Perfect. Release this next October month. Release this October 2025. And |
1:08:21 |
it's fine. By then, we might have an audience. We'll have that content. We'll have that listener |
1:08:31 |
and it won't be Shagi's mom. One of one of his one of his moms. He has more more parent. He has three |
1:08:39 |
more parents than me. How ridiculous is that? He has two more parents than me. I know I'm bad at |
1:08:47 |
math. Establish. I'm not good at math. No matter how basic. Right. I think we're going to have to |
1:08:55 |
do a four part. We just We just get We just We just yap, don't we? But that's what they tune in |
1:09:00 |
for the yap. The yap. The yapp for the yap. Oh my god. Would have been another good name for a cat. |
1:09:07 |
We still need to buy some walking around wine. The place is still open. I don't [ __ ] know that. I |
1:09:14 |
don't know. Oh god. It's over. It closes in like a few hours time. We're in the cube. It's always |
1:09:18 |
open. So what's your problem? I forget the rules of this universe. I forget it. I forget the law |
1:09:26 |
that we're trying to establish. The trouble is is that we've not fully come up with all of it |
1:09:31 |
yet. Anyway, we we will do it as we go. I know. I know. And then when we've got a couple of fans, |
1:09:37 |
they'll piece it all together. Yeah, they'll they'll do the work. They'll create Cubipedia. |
1:09:42 |
Trapped in the Cubedia and then they'll figure it all out. And then when we do |
1:09:47 |
shows and conventions, they'll go, "Hey, but in episode seven, you hit the xylophone twice and |
1:09:56 |
and um two separate notes were played from the same xylophone, |
1:10:01 |
from the same rib cage." Then fire. You claimed in episode 8, |
1:10:06 |
the cubists were coming. Where are they? Where are they? I am waiting for these cubists. |
1:10:19 |
My [ __ ] lord. What was the um shitty um techno jingle that I was saying at the start of this |
1:10:26 |
episode? Did that even get recorded? [ __ ] I can't remember. Was that in the past one |
1:10:30 |
that got like was that in a separate timeline in the cube? I don't know. Don't know if that |
1:10:36 |
was something like trapped in the cube, but it wasn't trapped in the cube cuz now I'm thinking |
1:10:40 |
of trapped in the cube by a copy nut job and then I was going into [ __ ] [ __ ] What do |
1:10:47 |
you singles that? What? What do you do that for us? That's the only impression I'm going |
1:10:54 |
to do. I know for a fact that's not true. I want to do so much more. Me when I just |
1:11:02 |
me when I meet any girl. So you see my bush. I thought you were just going to go into it. You |
1:11:11 |
seen it boy? Me thumb boy. Me thumb come from a long line of itches. Yo, I can't actually |
1:11:23 |
remember his story or the exact I know it's about a [ __ ] wasp that kept stinging him. |
1:11:31 |
Yeah, it's been such a long time. Made a deal with it at a bin. Yeah, |
1:11:37 |
he made a deal with a bin. I don't remember any of that. I just that's |
1:11:42 |
that's where he kept getting stung. You want to know about math boy? Intriguing, |
1:11:46 |
does it? That come from a long line of itches. This is how I'm trying to remember the exact |
1:11:53 |
dialogue. Some hornet that stung his thumb and he kept going in and out, in and out. But yeah, |
1:12:00 |
sing us the song. I know you want to. That's the thing. I'm getting this wrong. And then I |
Mike sings for us
1:12:09 |
have to do both of the Piper twins bit myself. I'll do that. Oh, but I'm going to do it all. |
1:12:19 |
Walk that job. Have a cup of tea. Have a cup of tea. I'm the hitcher. Let me put |
1:12:25 |
you in the picture. Creeping in the room in the dead of night with my solo polo vision. |
1:12:30 |
That's right. I'm a cocky gazer. Watch me please you. I knew the ripper when he was |
1:12:35 |
just a nipper. I to slice. I cut him up a tree. P a banana. To p your bear. P your |
1:12:42 |
banana to p your bear. P your banana to pound your bear. 14 chillies for your mountains. Oh |
1:12:48 |
yeah. With the Piper twins with Jim and Jackie Piper. Through the night like a |
1:12:53 |
windream wiping you away like raindrops. Don't mess with the boys. Cut your noise. |
1:13:02 |
I can't remember the rest. Oh my god. No. Something about dancing skeletons, |
1:13:09 |
white, blue, and yellow and creeping in the shadows with a moon of a speed of a |
1:13:14 |
cat. If your colors were cross, you ain't going to like that. Oh, me black skull. |
1:13:21 |
Yeah. Thank you for tuning in to part three of trapped in the cube. Spooky hardcore to |
1:13:30 |
the actual right now. Oh yeah, let's just not go. Stop doing that cuz in my head that sounds |
1:13:36 |
amazing and I never want to hear that part. I'm going to play it for you as soon as we |
1:13:42 |
come. Absolutely not. I need a [ __ ] piss. That's another reason why I'm trying to end |
1:13:45 |
it. My god. Cuz my balls are full of Christ. So yeah, that was um the max sing segment in |
1:13:54 |
Oh [ __ ] God trying to sing. There's always a bit where you go, I'm not singing. I'm not |
1:14:01 |
singing. And then you sing. single. Well, you love to do it. That's Want to do it so bad. |
1:14:11 |
[ __ ] Jesus Christ. Right. [ __ ] brilliant. I've not got an outro planned yet. Uh I can't |
1:14:18 |
remember what we did for the first round. No, we did, dude. Oh, it was a nice ch |
1:14:30 |
See you next time again. Bye here. |